The Sigma competes in the affordable protection end of the market. The M&P competes well with anybody...
Posted on 02/27/2011 2:26:27 PM PST by JerseyDvl
I always find the process of purchasing a weapon interesting since it is a right guaranteed to all citizens assuming they are not felons, drug addicts, illegal aliens, domestic abusers, or mentally unstable....supposedly.
My experience this time around, which was my 5th, seemed to be different in a few ways and I wantd to share it and solicit opinions from my favorite 2nd ammendment defenders.
I guess I’m not understanding it because some posters have said the opposite.
No I am not confusing the WRF and WMR. There have been several autoloading rifles chambered for the magnum. I know off hand of two. One made by H&R and another made by Heckler and Koch.
There may be WRF’s with jacketed bullets but I have never seen one. All I have ever seen use a lead bullet with a flat nose.
I have never seen a WMR with anything but a jacketed bullet tho the jacket is very thin.
I figured you could use it. I’m just wondering if CCI is covering themselves. Do you use it in a rifle or handgun? The WRF is a bit shorter than the standard WRM
No 5RH is just a type of rifleing all hand guns of that make and model well have 5RH rifleing. One would need a bullet fired from that gun to may be match it to that gun.
Rifling changes a bit with every shot, to speed that up run some bore polish thru the barrel and after 20 30 times most likely they well not match. It well show 5RH rifling but there could be thousands of guns with 5RH rifling.
And if one needs to change it really fast run steel wool thru it more then once but you could expect some barrel damage I wouldn’t recommed steel wool except in a emergency.
There used to be an AMT 22 Mag auto. Can’t recall what it was called.
I don’t know what state you live in, but in my state there is no waiting whatsoever. No background checks either. fill out a form for the gun dealer to put in his/her book, and you are good to go.
The Sigma competes in the affordable protection end of the market. The M&P competes well with anybody...
There are too many people to reply to individually but I want to thank everyone for their replies.
I have to believe that my new .40’s ballistics are in some kind of database and I am split on how I feel about it:
On one hand I feel as if anyone who purchases such a weapon is in effect “trackable” and being watched. On the other hand, I don’t plan on going on a rampage and if this db helps catch such a erson, it seems reasonable.
Am I simply falling into the slippery slope with the latter reasoning?
Though I registered for FR while in the peoples republic of NJ, I have since moved to TX. I have made a purchase each year for the past 4 years and each time it was no more than a 20 minute wait.
Think the “wait-list” that I had to endure was due to the current regime in any way. I am not the conspiratorial type but it did get me thinking about the possibility with “Project Gunwalker” and this being a border state.
The M&P is one to keep an eye on. They are gaining in popularity in the ISPC shooting competitions amazingly fast. I like to look up the numbers of each brand and type that are entered in that contest every year to see what the real pros prefer to shoot. M&P is the new kid on the block and seems to be really taking off. I’ve never shot one but they gotta be impressive to increase their numbers in ISPC like they have in such a short time. Time will tell if they are “flash in the pan”.
Probably, yes you are.
The database doesn’t do a dam bit of good preventing gun crimes. It’s just a “first step” measure by the gun grabbers. Incrementalism. Any fool should be able to see that.
<< Go to the range and pick up a casing of the same caliber and send that in. >>
I’m pretty sure the manufacturer, distributor or dealer is the one required to send in the casing - not the buyer.
I don’t believe ANY state has passed this useless balistic test. Pins and barrels can and are changed.
This is more a quality control issue I believe.
Before we start assuming or this turns into a “conditioning” (see frog in boiling water) to get the sheep used to the balistic dna test we have to talk to someone who actually knows.
(kind of like that BS UK tv detector to force people to pay their tv ownership tax)
There is no such exclusions of the right to own arms in the Constitution.
I did a little research - Maryland, New York, and Connecticut require test firing. California requires microstamping (somehow, identifying numbers are stamped on the casing when the weapon is fired - I assume by etching the numbers somewhere in the chamber).
Good move. If nothing else, there should be a good supply of ammo around if you need it.
8/20/2009
Winchester® Ammunition was recently awarded a contract by the Immigration, Customs and Enforcement (ICE) division of the Department of Homeland Security to supply a maximum of 200 million, 40 cal. rounds over the next five years.
“Winchester has a proud tradition of providing high quality ammunition to our nation’s law enforcement agencies,” said Dick Hammett, president, Winchester Ammunition. “No matter if they’re protecting our block, our city or our borders, each special agent is an invaluable resource and we are committed to giving them the best products available.”
The load selected for this contract is a 135-grain, hollow point designed for the office of Field Operations of Customs and Border Protection. It will fall under the Winchester® Ranger® line of products.
Which, it would seem, would also have that same 30-round capacity if chambered for the less expensive .22 Long Rifle cartridge. And in which case I would buy one. Or two, maybe even three.
I bet they'd sell like hotcakes.
Seen its PMR-30 SNG cousin?
They were introduced in 2005, so really not that new.
Great all-around gun. The thing I've liked best over the years has been the ergonomics. You can see they really put the time into studying them.
I'd not seen that carbine-stocked subgun; that sure is sweet (in a sci-fi meets old Eastern Bloc sort of way). Kel-Tec has stretched the handgun into a simple carbine design as well, just recently.
They were introduced in 2005, so really not that new.
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YOU COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG!!
You need to take a look at the guns the M&P is going up against in ISPC.
glock.....30 years old
smith&wesson N frame revolvers...90 years old
colt 1911.....100 years old
springfield(a copy of the colt 1911)
kimber(a copy of the colt 1911)
sti(a copy of the colt 1911)
wilson combat(a copy of the colt 1911)
svi (a copy of the colt 1911)
beretta 92.....40 years old
CZ 75........35 years old
The M&P is a fetus. considering your statement, sounds like you are too.
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