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What are your impressions of Japanese and their society after seeing all the TV reports ? (Vanity )
3/14/11

Posted on 03/14/2011 2:01:54 AM PDT by sushiman

I've been here ( Japan ) a long time , so what I have seen does not surprise me : the people's resilience ; the community spirit ; the never give up attitude ; the discipline ; etc...I would love to hear what your impressions have been , watching from halfway around the world .


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To: Smokin' Joe

Japanese stoicism may be a valid impression, I don’t know. However, let me remind everyone that the whole Gulf Coast was hit by Katrina, and not all the reaction was like that of New Orleans. In many areas the people just put their shoulders to the grindstone and started to rebuild.


21 posted on 03/14/2011 3:08:54 AM PDT by Old_Grouch (63 and AARP-free. Monthly FR contributor.)
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To: sushiman

Searching for survivors despite knowing they’ll get dosed with radiation in the area of the reactors, the reactor crews staying at their posts with the knowledge they may not live long afterwards.
Both acting on the glimmer of hope that their actions will give someone else a fighting chance even at personal cost to them.
Accurate assessment?
I don’t know, I haven’t been able to keep up with it.
But that is the impression I get on that aspect of things.


22 posted on 03/14/2011 3:10:03 AM PDT by Darksheare (Dear Interdimensional Monstrosity, I fear our relationship has taken a turn for the worse...)
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To: Happy Rain
Actually, “gung ho” is Chinese.
23 posted on 03/14/2011 3:12:40 AM PDT by GAB-1955 (I write books, love my wife, serve my nation, and believe in the Resurrection.)
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To: Happy Rain
After all,isn't “gung ho” Japanese?

No. That term is Mandarin Chinese in origin.
Gung = work
ho = (when used in this application) signifies co-operation

Gung ho = work together.

24 posted on 03/14/2011 3:21:06 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito Ergo Conservitus.)
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To: Fresh Wind

OK, I just have top point out.

Yakuza = NOT honorable!
Same with the illicit “Soap Works”, kiddy porn, drug culture, etc.
Japan has many if not most of the same issues we do.
They also have access to criminal “persuasion” techniques that would be unconstitutional here.
Beating to gain a confession is legal and not unusual, FEAR can be a factor in most remaining demure in the face of disaster.

I visited Japan several times in the 80’s, I personally installed their very first “Voicemail” system.

The Japanese are generous host, they can be great business partners.
But in reality their morals are just not the same as ours.
A mistress is a sign of success, intellectual theft is not so much a crime but being caught at it is.
Evening drunkenness is a national pastime.
I also quickly learned they are often incredibly arrogant, to the point of risking their careers over trivial assumptions.

I enjoyed my trips there, it’s unlikely I will ever go back only due to expense and having no legitimate reason to return as I no longer work in electronics.

I hope my old working partner Kenji Sagusa, his wife, and mistress are all OK.

I also hope the Yakuza mobsters do not take too much advantage of the situation, skimming from the rebuilding, etc.

The Japanese have experience with this type of disaster, they will clean it up and rebuild.


25 posted on 03/14/2011 3:30:05 AM PDT by Loyal Sedition (Loyal Sedition, often described as "To the right of Attila The Hun"!)
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To: sushiman

Uh, I’ve decided that “diversity” of culture is not our strength.

There is something to be said for a harmonious culture, where everyone understands what sort of conduct is expected and condoned.

Much has been contrasted to the conduct of Americans during Katrina. It’s important to note that the behavior of poor black Americans in these circumstances is not race-based; it’s cultural and unique to blacks indoctrinated in liberal victimhood. When you speak to new arrivals directly from Africa, they sincerely cannot understand why black Americans are so mad.

They arrive here, and like immigrants before them, learn the language if they don’t already know it (although many speak the Queen’s English to begin with) and they get a cab license, open a shop, or get a job (so they can raise the cash to open a shop later). They are industrious. Most, if not all, will tell you that they don’t feel any discrimination at all. It is for this very reason that immigrants from Africa DO NOT ALLOW their American-born children to associate with black African-Americans. They have nothing in common with these children and moreover, they don’t want them to “contaminate” their kids. (Contamination is their word, not mine.)

Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and their ilk can be the ones you send the Thank You notes to.....


26 posted on 03/14/2011 3:37:47 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: sushiman

I lived in Japan for two years as a kid, and I like and respect the Japanese.

I have always admired their incredible stoicism in the face of hardship. This is no exception.

It makes me a little embarrassed, but I have to keep in mind that Americans have shown their mettle too in some situations, though not all.

I pray for the Japanese.


27 posted on 03/14/2011 3:44:20 AM PDT by rlmorel (How to relate to Liberals? Take a Conservative, remove all responsibility...logic...)
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To: sushiman

I will admit I have a slight bias in favor of the Japanese. One of my best friends when I was little was Japanese, an older girl who took time to play with one much younger. I always thought she was beautiful, had gorgeous long, black hair and I loved to hear her speak. She was born in the US and was bilingual.

From the first news announcement I felt that Japan would put us to shame when dealing with tragedy on such a wide scale. Behavior during Katrina was disgusting and I live too near and used to work in Detroit, a man-made continuing disaster. I know it’s early yet, but I have no doubts Japan will rebuild and heal quickly. Unlike Katrina and Haiti, I have no reservations about donating to help speed things up.


28 posted on 03/14/2011 3:57:20 AM PDT by Kieri (The Conservatrarian)
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To: sushiman

The ability for the government and industry to lie effortlessly is pretty impressive


29 posted on 03/14/2011 3:59:11 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: sushiman

Honestly? Japan is reacting exactly as I expected they would from the first moment I heard about it; politely and efficiently.


30 posted on 03/14/2011 4:01:12 AM PDT by Fire_on_High (Stupid should hurt.)
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To: Kieri

Bataan Death March pretty much says it all. They are great until they have a bayonet in your back. They will bounce back because they are Japanese. But don’t trust them with your life(i.e. radiation).


31 posted on 03/14/2011 4:03:05 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: sushiman
The USA exhibited the same on 9-11. The rush to assist seemed more apparent in the USA but we definitely have more assets including land mass.

I had a Japanese boss at one time. Definitely very cool under pressure.

32 posted on 03/14/2011 4:03:35 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: sushiman

A friend sent me photos of modern day Hiroshima and Detroit. When you compare these cities now and 60 years ago you realize how different our societies are.


33 posted on 03/14/2011 4:08:06 AM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: sushiman

I am very impressed with their resilience and calm. It’s too bad our media people headed out there. You know they are going to turn it into a circus of misinformation and finger pointing.


34 posted on 03/14/2011 4:09:48 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Loyal Sedition

“...often incredibly arrogant, to the point of risking their careers over trivial assumptions.”

An example, please?


35 posted on 03/14/2011 4:16:30 AM PDT by flowerplough (Thomas Sowell: Those who look only at Obama's deeds tend to become Obama's critics.)
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To: sushiman
AP Wire March 14. Los Angeles. Jesse Jackson today spoke at a Black Rally urging the Democrat crowd to prepare for an earthquake in L.A by targeting the best stores for future looting and burning. Jackson told the thousands of disenfranchised, poor plantation liberal blacks that instead of burning down that convenient Asian Grocery on the corner, attack Tiffany's in Beverly Hills where the real gold is!

Jackson showed the crowd how to make Molotov cocktails, beat up whites and Asians, and urged them to pick out now that new 60" 3-D LCD/LED set they want at Best Buy so that when they start looting, burning and killing they'll know exactly where to go and what to steal!

36 posted on 03/14/2011 4:16:55 AM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: SamAdams76

I was in Hurricane Katrina on the Mississippi Gulf Coast..was driving a two year old Mercedes..paid cash for it.

My total assistance was a grilled cheeseburger..from a retired Air Force Colonel who came from Florida with his two daughters. He set up on Hwy 49 in the Sams parking lot. I came from Montgomery to see the damage..after I evacuated.

There was no gas..no food available..The grilled cheeseburgers were tempting and it was what I needed.

Had to over night in a gas station parking lot in Mobile.


37 posted on 03/14/2011 4:26:28 AM PDT by bushpilot1
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To: sushiman

I am amazed at how organized the Japanese people are, but after looking at all the photos, there is one question that puzzles me.
Do Japanese people ever buy cars that aren’t white?


38 posted on 03/14/2011 4:31:46 AM PDT by BuffaloJack (Obama did not learn incompetence; he was born to it.)
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To: sushiman

Because Japan is such a very disciplined society by world standards, they are handling this tremendous tragedy amazingly well. Otherwise, they couldn’t have easily handled something like the 1923 Great Kanto Earthquake (which pretty much destroyed most of Tokyo and Yokohama areas) or even the effects of World War II.


39 posted on 03/14/2011 4:33:04 AM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: GeronL
The Japanese as a people retain something which many, maybe most, in the west lost quite some time ago. A deep sense of personal responsibility and the ability to feel shame.

Admittedly, this doesn't extend to the kind of group shame over their military's behavior during WWII which the Germans so overtly express (one can blame this as much on MacArthur and his need to get them back on their feet and in line against the Soviets as anyone - Japanese civilians weren't hustled out of the rubble through the POW and concentration camps and their children were never taught the truth about the war) but you don't find any tolerance for sloth and squalor, nor any tendency to blame others for one's own bad choices and fate.

They are a unique and remarkably disciplined people. You may not have the many years experience in dealing with them some of us have and only see the negatives. Their perverse media is what it is, but before casting too many stones, have you heard about the 11 year old gang rape victim in Texas and the pedo ring they just broke up in that small British town? The Japanese people today, not the adults of 65 plus years ago, are very deserving of respect and our help right now.

40 posted on 03/14/2011 4:33:28 AM PDT by katana
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