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Weekly Gardening Thread 2011 (Vol. 13) April 15
Free Republic | 4-15-2011 | Red_Devil 232

Posted on 04/15/2011 5:07:49 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232

Good morning gardeners. Today is NOT tax day! Y’all who file last minute can put it off until Monday the 18th. Why? In 2011, Washington, D.C., will celebrate Emancipation Day on April 15, a day earlier than normal, since April 16 falls on a Saturday. Emancipation Day marks the anniversary of the day that President Lincoln signed the Compensated Emancipation Act. The Act, which was "for the release of certain persons held to service or labor in the District of Columbia," freed 3,100 slaves in the District, making DC residents the "first freed" by the federal government.

Ok back to gardening. Looks like I will be getting rain today. There is a line of strong thunderstorms to the northwest and west of me. I had planed to rent a tiller today and till the garden plot. I will have to wait until the soil dries out now. Drats, another delay in planting! Some of my tomato and squash plants are begging me to get them in the soil. Received some nice seeds in the mail yesterday from Freeper Black Agnes. Thanks again. I should have the opportunity to get them into some soil and flats today!

If you are a gardener or you are just starting out and are in need of advice or just encouragement please feel free to join in and enjoy the friendly discussion. Our Freeper community is full of gardeners, each with varying interests and skill levels from Master Gardener to novice.


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1 posted on 04/15/2011 5:07:52 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232
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To: Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; billhilly; Alkhin; ...
Ping to the Weekly Gardening Ping List.

I hope all of you will stop by.

This is typically a low volume ping list. Once a week for the thread and every once in a while for other FR threads posted that might be of interest.

If you would like to be added to or removed from the list please let me know by FreepMail or by posting to me.

2 posted on 04/15/2011 5:09:21 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Last night my Jasmine was smelling so Sweet. It is blooming like crazy this year.


3 posted on 04/15/2011 5:14:13 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: screaminsunshine

You just have to love the aroma of Jasmine in the evening!


4 posted on 04/15/2011 5:16:21 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

It was great. Now my Gardenias are getting ready.


5 posted on 04/15/2011 5:17:23 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I already have small tomatoes and the beans and peas are up. I need to do a little weeding and Miracle Grow this weekend.


6 posted on 04/15/2011 5:19:32 AM PDT by mbynack (Retired USAF SMSgt)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Please add me to your ping list. I am a new gardener and I am planning on growing vegetables this summer. I am sure I could use your advice...thanks.


7 posted on 04/15/2011 5:19:37 AM PDT by Jessica2677 (S.O.S.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

How to protect your garden patch or field against radioactive fallout:

http://crisismaven.wordpress.com/2011/04/06/how-to-protect-your-garden-patch-or-field-against-radioactive-fall-out/


8 posted on 04/15/2011 5:20:17 AM PDT by Daisyjane69 (Michael Reagan: "Welcome back, Dad, even if you're wearing a dress and bearing children this time)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Weather has been nice, got almost all the spring stuff in last weekend. Did a lot of work last year tilling in lawn clippings to improve the soil and it really paid off. Looks like a rainy cool week coming up, should make stuff grow.


9 posted on 04/15/2011 5:20:22 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

General question for those who may have some suggestions. I have a few starter tomato plants ( less than 1ft and still indoors for a few more weeks) that got a little too much direct sun on them the other day. They wilted, but have come back over the past 36 hrs. The leaves are still a bit shriveled and sad looking, but the stalks look like they’re in good shape. Anything I should watch out for or do to help them along?


10 posted on 04/15/2011 5:20:22 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good Morning.


11 posted on 04/15/2011 5:20:42 AM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Jessica2677
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12 posted on 04/15/2011 5:22:10 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: edpc

Keep them watered. Plants dry out very quickly in those small peat pots or the plastic flats.


13 posted on 04/15/2011 5:26:15 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Gabz

Hello!


14 posted on 04/15/2011 5:26:56 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Jessica2677

You can expect to get a lot of help from the many great gardeners here in FReepLand.


15 posted on 04/15/2011 5:29:26 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Morning all.

Eats this weekend courtesy of the garden. Baby mustard, chard and collard along with lettuce and radishes a plenty.

We will be buying our transplants this weekend, plotting out the bed and ordering trellises we found online.

Lots to do.


16 posted on 04/15/2011 5:29:38 AM PDT by doodad
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To: edpc

They got sunburned. Are the leaves bleaching and turning white? If not they should come back fine. It’s pretty much about patience now.


17 posted on 04/15/2011 5:33:39 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We transplanted our tomato seedlings into bigger containers. At least 50% immediately wilted and haven’t sprung back yet. I am wondering if that is common? Is it some sort of shock that we didn’t expect or is that normal? Any tomato gardening tips for someone starting from seed is greatly appreciated. Thanks gardening FRiends.


18 posted on 04/15/2011 5:34:58 AM PDT by momtothree
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To: Free Vulcan

No, the leaves are still green....they’re just limp.


19 posted on 04/15/2011 5:35:14 AM PDT by edpc (Tagline under construction: Your American Recovery and Reinvestment Act dollars at work.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

How do you get rid of wild onions?


20 posted on 04/15/2011 5:37:39 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (You go to war with the President you have Not the President you wish you had. D Rumsfeld)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

I really don’t know! They and their tink white flowers are all over my front yard.


21 posted on 04/15/2011 5:40:14 AM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
On Monday, I set out some of the heirloom tomatoes I started indoors a few weeks ago. All but one looked OK yesterday. I noticed there are little pickles on the cucumber vines already. My squash plants are loaded with little squash. The one that was on last weekend is about three inches long. All the plants are doing great, but we need rain.

I turned my compost last weekend, and I have never seen a batch that hot. It was in the low 80s, and I noticed steam coming off the compost as I was turning the pile. The other batch is almost that hot too. I still have several bags of leaves and grass clippings that will be started soon.

Our flowers are just taking off. The bees and butterflies really like the fresh flowers. Most made it through the winter and are liking the warm weather. The big split leaf elephant ear got nipped during the winter, but has a number of new leaves. The fruit trees have quite a number of fruit again. Now, if I can keep the raccoons and possums off them before the fruit is ripe.

We have a big Rosemary plant that needs trimming. There are several limbs that are on the ground and have roots in the soil. My neighbor wants one or two limbs for home use. Basil and sage are growing like crazy too.

22 posted on 04/15/2011 5:44:00 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: momtothree

Whenever you transplant tomato plants, plant them as deep as possible. I set my little two - three inch plants into the garden and some are only half the size now. I put one really tender plant almost to the leaves, and it is doing great. I had two in on container and didn’t put one deep enough. It is wilting, but still green.


23 posted on 04/15/2011 5:48:13 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: edpc

They may be ok, they’ll start bleaching after 24 hours or s if there’s any real sunburn. As long as you don’t lose all the leaves on the plant it will come back. Fortunately there’s plenty of time, I’ve had it where most of the leaves were gone and still had plenty of tomatoes off them.


24 posted on 04/15/2011 5:54:11 AM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

You have to dig out the bulbs to get rid of wild onions. We had them on the farm, and that was the only way to get them out of the garden areas.


25 posted on 04/15/2011 5:55:02 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (TX and MI - When the going gets tough, the dims run and hide.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Although I grow vegetables, my “thing” is for ornamental plants...and Hosta in particular. I grow about 350 varieties (along with dozens of Brigmansias, Colocasias, Cacti and ANY zone 7 shade plant. If anybody is into that sort of stuff, let me know....I’m sure we could trade.


26 posted on 04/15/2011 5:55:02 AM PDT by KeepUSfree (WOSD = fascism pure and simple.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

I have a problem with feral cats pooping in my garden. :(. I keep scooping the mess out as I find it, but they have trashed my peas that are still very small and tender. I’m thinking about putting down newspaper between my rows, do you think that will work?

On the positive side, I got my greenhouse megastore order this week of 4” pots, trays, and plant markers. YAY! I have a bunch of seedlings coming up, veggies and herbs and flowers. I got new potting mix and extra perlite. My little hothouse is pretty crowded!


27 posted on 04/15/2011 6:08:07 AM PDT by Marie Antoinette (Proud Clinton-hater since 1998.)
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To: screaminsunshine

The Lilac by the back door is blooming....Could smell it through out the house.


28 posted on 04/15/2011 6:08:14 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Clint N. Suhks

Fry them in butter???? (Pull out the bulb and all) After frying the wild mushrooms.


29 posted on 04/15/2011 6:14:31 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; All

Good Morning,

I have some general questions on herbs.

I have chives and time planted in a half barell that I planted several years ago. Should I do any triming etc. The chives continue to grow back each year and are much thicked in the stem, flavor seems to be getting weaker though. Any thoughs? Oh I am in INDY


30 posted on 04/15/2011 6:14:31 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Ratman83
Usually trim the thyme back each spring...Have had some of the same plant for years and it fills out nicely.
31 posted on 04/15/2011 6:18:01 AM PDT by hoosiermama (ONLY DEAD FISH GO WITH THE FLOW.......I am swimming with Sarahcudah! Sarah has read the tealeaves.)
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To: Red_Devil 232; All

I’m pretty annoyed! I had TWO DAYS OFF in a row (yesterday & today) and it’s so bloody cold and windy out that it’s hard to get anything done. Grrrr!

I worked on the back tree line yesterday for a while, then decided I’d better get a pro in here to finish trimming those spruces before I electrocute myself as a power line runs through there too, LOL! I also had so many burrs in my hair that I had to cut a hunk out of my head! Oh, well. All of those ‘cut on the horizontal’ styles are ‘in’ these days, so I can probably pull it off, LOL!

Got some spring veggies planted the other evening, and I did some pruning and cleaning up along the edges of the garden, but the entire garden needs to be cleaned out before I can start dumping stuff in there (I’ve been collecting broken bags-o-amendments from work) and get it all tilled up. But, I have until mid-May, so I have plenty of time.

Work has been slow because it’s been so cold, but when the weather breaks, it’s going to get ugly, LOL!

Please pray for me... :)


32 posted on 04/15/2011 6:19:10 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: hoosiermama

Thank you, is it too late to trim now?


33 posted on 04/15/2011 6:22:37 AM PDT by Ratman83
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To: Red_Devil 232

Anyone else having trouble with fire ants eating your seed potatoes? This is the first year that I planted potatoes and the little critters destroyed about 1/2 of my planting before I realized what was causing them to not come up.

I have not tried to poison them yet, but have noticed they do not like my gyp water (at the farm). Had an outcropping of fire ants near one of the fruit trees I planted and heavily soaked their mound when I watered the new trees and they seem to have disappeared (after about 3 waterings).


34 posted on 04/15/2011 6:27:26 AM PDT by Texas Fossil (Government, even in its best state is but a necessary evil; in its worst state an intolerable one)
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To: screaminsunshine

Japanese Lilac here. I could spend all day downwind of that bush when it’s blooming....


35 posted on 04/15/2011 6:36:58 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Hi RD, hope you are well. My 65 ft. Magnolia is almost in full bloom. The flowers are nearly 10 inches in diameter. I hate the yard full of leaves though. If it were not for the spring blooms...

The garden was late going in. The back isn’t cooperating anymore. Got the spouse to help me with the seeds last weekend. I used a rod to place the holes. Peas, okra and tomatoes are popping up already. Not sure how I’m going to pick anything but I’ll figure it out. I also planted Gigantic Sunflowers. I thought some bib lettuce might like to hang out between them in the shade.

Take care and good gardening!


36 posted on 04/15/2011 6:37:11 AM PDT by poobear (FACTS - the turd in the punch bowl of liberal thought!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

We’ve had really nice weather here in Central Missouri for the past week. I set out some broccoli, brussels sprouts and cabbage that I started from seed. Planted a row of mixed greens, several varieties of which I’m trying for the first time this year. The beets I planted last week have already sprouted. Snap peas are about 6” tall and looking very happy. A front rolled in last night and brought some nice rain - 7/10” in the gauge this morning.

But the big excitement for the week - my order of mushroom spawn arrived in the mail yesterday - 1000 shiitake plugs that will be pounded one by one into holes drilled in oak logs. That should keep me busy until the ground dries enough to get back in the garden.


37 posted on 04/15/2011 6:39:23 AM PDT by Augie
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To: Thermalseeker

We had the Orange Blossoms now the Jasmine and the Gardenias are starting.


38 posted on 04/15/2011 6:39:38 AM PDT by screaminsunshine (Shut up and eat your Beans!)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Ah, cool. If you haven’t planted yet, I’m OK. I’m in ATL.

I still need to tear out a bunch of cabbage I had planted over the winter. I’ve been giving it away here and there for the past week.


39 posted on 04/15/2011 6:45:45 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Red_Devil 232
The greenhouse is still giving up a bumper crop of carrots, lettuce, spinach, Brussels sprouts and broccoli. Texas sweet onions are near ready for using in salsa. A late summer batch of Texas sweets has been planted in one of my outdoor raised beds. I'm overrun with shallots in the greenhouse this year, but a new restaurant in town is going to take some off my hands. I have cantaloupe, broccoli, 3 varieties of peppers, and two varieties of tomatoes starting in the greenhouse now for transplant to outdoor raised beds after the threat of frost has passed.

Today I'm going to put in 5 rows of white sweet corn (Augusta) in the first of 5-6 staggered plantings. Smaller, time staggered (2 week intervals) plantings gives me a near continuous harvest of corn all summer right up until the beginning of October usually. I used to like Silver Queen, but I've found that Augusta, believe it or not, is sweeter and more tender (also quicker to maturity by 12 days) If the rain holds off today I'll put in a row of green beans and a patch of white aoup beans, too. Should get some blackberries this year from the canes I planted last season. My red raspberries are going gang busters and I expect a huge crop this year.

40 posted on 04/15/2011 6:47:49 AM PDT by Thermalseeker (The theft being perpetrated by Congress and the Fed makes Bernie Maddoff look like a pickpocket.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Good morning all!

How are you dealing with pests and diseases in a preventive sort of way? I have two products I’m thinking about using.

Green Light Neem Concentrate: an organic insecticide, fungicide, and miticide.

Burpee SeaCide: an organic insecticide and fungicide. 3% cottonseed oil, 3% lecithin, 94% edible fish oil.

If you’ve used these products, did they eliminate or control pests and disease? If you’ve had good results with another product, what was it and what was your frequency of application?

Tomato, cucumber and cantaloupe leaves are showing signs of wilt, mostly at the bottom of the plants. I’ve pruned the affected leaves with the idea of improving circulation and reducing the chance of spreading fungus and disease. I’m leery of further pruning.

My H.E.B Big Red Bell Pepper project is proceeding nicely. Two months ago I bought a huge red bell pepper from our H.E.B. grocery and planted the seeds. The plants are now almost two feet tall with what looks like the beginnings of peppers. Eager to see what the plants produce.


41 posted on 04/15/2011 7:00:37 AM PDT by Racehorse (Always preach the Gospel . . . . Use words if necessary.)
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To: Arrowhead1952
You have to dig out the bulbs to get rid of wild onions.

That's the only way I know. Seems like in this day and age there should be a "Round-Up" like herbicide that can do the job.

42 posted on 04/15/2011 7:03:47 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (You go to war with the President you have Not the President you wish you had. D Rumsfeld)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Greetings from southern New England! The ducklings are growing out of control! They doubled in weight in the first two days and now they are rapidly approaching outgrowing their brooder!

Tomorrow, hopefully, my son and his friends are going to excavate for our duck pond and associated waterfall and garden. We have a 14' by 21' pond liner and garden cloth for underneath it ready to be placed and rain coming on Sunday. I am finally getting a return on the investment of all of that food for the past 18 years!

The seedlings are growing and we need to get the raised beds put together soon.

Spring has sprung and the lilacs will be leafing out soon.

43 posted on 04/15/2011 7:04:03 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Red_Devil 232

When I lived in Virginia, we had wild chives all over the yard. By the time I was finished mowing the lawn, I was ravenously hungry! lol


44 posted on 04/15/2011 7:06:34 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Marie Antoinette
"I have a problem with feral cats pooping in my garden. :(."

Have you tried a .22?

45 posted on 04/15/2011 7:07:49 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: Red_Devil 232

the daffs in my yard are about 4” high. No blossoms yet. a few spring flowers (the small bulb variety) and forsythia let me know it is spring... the weather doesn’t really but the pollen/allergies do.

Have a great weekend FR horticulturists!


46 posted on 04/15/2011 7:12:07 AM PDT by DollyCali (Don't tell God how big your storm is... tell your storm how BIG your God is!)
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To: Red_Devil 232
Just checked the rain gauge and found 1 1/2” of rain dumped overnight. Other than covering up the now blooming strawberries no work can be done in the garden. Weather guy warned of a possible frost ‘in some areas’. Of course he was not more specific as to which areas, so I am taking no chances. It was just getting dried out enough to walk in the garden proper.

But I do have more seedlings that can be put into larger pots/planters, so it is not like I am going to have a day off. Today starts off with wet nasty winds at 48 degrees. And given what OK an AR went through last evening I really cannot complain.

47 posted on 04/15/2011 7:12:07 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Red_Devil 232

Still no rain here in north central Texas. Yet the bluebonnets came in pretty...and smell wonderful! I’m amazed at what will grow in such arid conditions. I can’t find a hint of moisture in the soil here, but the native plants come to life just the same. Even the mesquite looks beautiful this time of year.

I’ve transplanted most of the tomatoes and peppers (jalapeno and ancho) from seedling trays into their permament homes, and they’re doing well in the warm/hot days we’ve had lately.

The compost heap is still behaving strangely - from hot to cold and back again. But I’ll continue experimenting with it and hope to use it on a late-Summer/Fall garden.


48 posted on 04/15/2011 7:17:16 AM PDT by LearsFool ("Thou shouldst not have been old, till thou hadst been wise.")
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To: Augie

I live in Central Mo.too. Planted corn in the garden yesterday. Wanted to get it in before last nights rain.


49 posted on 04/15/2011 7:24:22 AM PDT by painter (No wonder democrats don't mind taxes.THEY DON'T PAY THEM !)
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To: Red_Devil 232

Thanks for the ping, I do have a couple of questions though and would appreciate any constructive input.

I have virtually NO experience with gardening.

We live in the high desert of SoCal. The “earth” is a caliche type of clay [so I’ll be building a planter box] but the heat can be something else during the summer.

Composting naturally is pretty much out of the question as the extremely dry atmosphere basically sucks the moisture out of anything.

1) Are there any alternative ways to compost in the desert?

2) Are there certain types of veg’s and herbs that will do okay in a hot and sunny environment?

Thanks in advance,
SZ


50 posted on 04/15/2011 7:29:50 AM PDT by SZonian (July 27, 2010. Life begins anew.)
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