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The JFK-UFO Connection: Bogus Documents or Unanswered Questions?
AOL News ^ | 04/18/11 | Lee Speigel

Posted on 04/19/2011 7:45:15 AM PDT by Dengar01

Do you like a good UFO detective story? Well, here's one for you. And it's ongoing, so we don't yet know the ending. It involves President John F. Kennedy's interest in UFOs shortly before his death and an allegation that he may have angered officials in his administration when he asked for information on the subject.

Recently, the FBI opened a new website, "The Vault," that lets you view a variety of documents, including those regarding UFOs. I looked into one document that appears to include a phony UFO story and mentioned how important it is to be extremely careful when looking at UFO documents and how it's critical to know the background of this information. JFK Doc 5 Courtesy of Robert Wood / Earthfiles.com The cover of a lengthy 1954 MJ-12 special operations manual, which contains detailed information about "extraterrestrial entities and technology, recovery and disposal." Use the navigation bar to scan through the document or enlarge this 13-page document for a full reading.

While researching materials for his new book, "A Celebration of Freedom: JFK and the New Frontier" (Wasteland Press), Atlanta, Ga., history teacher William Lester used the Freedom of Information Act to get some previously classified documents.

Two of them were written by Kennedy on the same date, Nov. 12, 1963 -- 10 days before his assassination. One was to the CIA director, asking for UFO files (See JFK Doc 2); the other was to the NASA administrator, with Kennedy expressing a desire for cooperation with the former Soviet Union on mutual outer space activities (See JFK Doc 3).

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; History; UFO's
KEYWORDS: ajntsa; coverup; jfk; ufo
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Interesting angle to the Kennedy Assassination Conspiracy.
1 posted on 04/19/2011 7:45:18 AM PDT by Dengar01
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To: Quix; Las Vegas Dave; dsj; SonOfDarkSkies; Alamo-Girl
PING!!!

Quix and Dave I know I am missing a ton of people I just threw in the FReepers that I am most familiar with on this topic.

Can you please ping the list?

And if someone could provide links to this FBI Vault I think that would be helpful!

2 posted on 04/19/2011 7:48:46 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Blackhawks!!! Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: Dengar01

This one goes to the back of the line. All anybody has wrt what happened to JFK is a choice of forty or fifty different conspiracy theories, all plausible and most more plausible than any ufo theory.


3 posted on 04/19/2011 7:50:41 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946
I was more interested in the documents than the conspiracy of the assassination.

Recently the FBI has released a lot of documents related to UFOs and Extraterrestrials not only visiting Earth but crashing to Earth and the Government covering it up.

Now this is either:
A) Disinformation
B) Incompetence of the Holder DOJ
C) A Whistle Blower

Either way these documents can be real or fake. I personally witnessed a UFO making maneuvers at incredible speeds that would rip apart any human pilot. So I do believe that UFOs are Alien Crafts. There is a lot of evidence that people want to ignore, but these documents ad kindle to the fire.

4 posted on 04/19/2011 7:55:27 AM PDT by Dengar01 (Go Blackhawks!!! Go Bulls!!! Go White Sox!!!)
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To: Dengar01

Thanks for the ping!


5 posted on 04/19/2011 7:57:29 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Dengar01
And we all thought Independence Day was just a movie! So Kennedy really is in cryogenic suspension in a warehouse in area 51? Has anyone contacted Jesse Ventura?
6 posted on 04/19/2011 8:10:23 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: Dengar01
I personally witnessed a UFO making maneuvers at incredible speeds that would rip apart any human pilot.

About 15 years ago at my parents home in Southwest Virginia, I saw some weird lights flying fast at very low level below the mountain ridgeline at night with a Huey in hot pursuit. Being interested in aviation history and knowing quite a bit bout military aircraft and UAVs/drones, I can safely say that these lights were neither.

7 posted on 04/19/2011 8:12:36 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin has crossed the Rubicon!)
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To: Virginia Ridgerunner; Dengar01

Good recent book on the subject:

http://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Generals-Pilots-Government-Officials/dp/0307716848


8 posted on 04/19/2011 8:25:42 AM PDT by Flightdeck (If you hear me yell "Eject, Eject, Eject!" the last two will be echos...)
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To: Dengar01
This is the type of aircraft that they omitted from the history books.

1941 Vril 1 "Jager (Hunter)"

>>"The first purely Vril disc - the Vril 1 Jager (Hunter) was constructed in 1941 and first flew in 1942.

It was 11.5 meters in diameter, had a single pilot, and could achieve 2,900 km/h - 12,000 km/h! It flew with a metal dome at first but subsequent test versions had a heavily reinforced glass dome and could seat two crew. Flight endurance was 5.5 hrs. It was planned to arm this craft with two MK-108 cannon plus 2 MG-17 machineguns. Seventeen of these craft were constructed and tested between 1942-44 with 84 test flights."<<

9 posted on 04/19/2011 8:36:52 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: Dengar01; ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; ...

THX

Can ping . . . too busy to do the other, for now.

Thx.


10 posted on 04/19/2011 8:58:17 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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>>"German aircraft historian Henry Stevens states, "Haunebu 1 was allegedly the first large flying saucer developed in Germany. According to plans allegedly obtained from classified German SS files, the Haunebu 1 was approximately seventy-five feet in diameter and probably lifted off for the first time in August 1939, a few weeks before the outbreak of World War II."<<
11 posted on 04/19/2011 9:06:35 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Allowing Islam into America is akin to injecting yourself with AIDS to prove how tolerant you are .)
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To: Dengar01
The executive summary.....

A few thousand years ago there occurred a series of cosmic disasters which left our own planet as the only generally habitable place in our solar system. Prior to that other parts of our system had been inhabited by a space-faring civilization and we find evidence of that on Mars, Phobos, Iapetus, our own moon, and other places.

At present any visitor would have to come from the stars and that (travelling inter-stellar distances) is sufficiently difficult to do that we assume it doesn't happen. It would at least require vehicles of sufficient size that we would easily detect them.

Reports of UFOs began around 1946 - 1948 i.e. at the time when people flying around in piston-engined aircraft at 200 mph first started seeing jets go by them at 500 - 550. Those included US-made craft as well as advanced Nazi prototypes which had been captured.

The first person called to Roswell NM was Werner Von Braun, who was no more of an expert on alien technology than you or I would be, but who was THE expert on Nazi technology. His presence indicates that the question or problem to hand involved Nazi technology and not space alien technology.

12 posted on 04/19/2011 9:10:29 AM PDT by wendy1946
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To: Dengar01
Either way these documents can be real or fake.

Way to go out on a limb, there.

13 posted on 04/19/2011 9:13:43 AM PDT by sportutegrl
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To: B4Ranch

Evidently.


14 posted on 04/19/2011 9:28:16 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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15 posted on 04/19/2011 9:33:40 AM PDT by TheOldLady
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To: Dengar01

It all became clear it was revealed that both Fidel and Raul Castro are from the planet Theta Macaroni 4.


16 posted on 04/19/2011 11:12:15 AM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Dengar01

Back around 1990 or so i had a friend come up to me convinced he saw a UFO while cat fishing at night with another buddy.

A few days later another friend who did not know the first friend came up to me with the exact same story.
Same night, Same UFO, same shape, Both completely convinced it was not of this world.

Kind of freaked me out at the time.


17 posted on 04/19/2011 2:18:26 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Dengar01

Very interesting!


18 posted on 04/30/2011 2:30:52 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: ALASKA; ActionNewsBill; A knight without armor; albertp; aragorn; areafiftyone; aruanan; ...

Massive UFO Hoax planned on Sunday (22May2011).

The online group “Anonymous” is planning a worldwide hoax about UFO sightings, using members scattered in many countries. Starting on Sunday, May 22, at about 8 pm EST, you may start seeing reports on all sorts of websites about sightings of triangle-shaped UFOs, but these will all be bogus. The motivations of these hackers aren’t clear, and they may be mixed: Some may be into it for the fun, some because they favor UFO disclosure, and for others, it may be a form of conceptual art. We understand why people may sometimes make fun of UFOs, but WE take them seriously because we’ve met so many people who have memories of these strange encounters, including Whitley Strieber himself. That’s why we have a series of special interviews, just for subscribers, with “contactees” such as Diana and Kate, who tell their stories IN THEIR OWN WORDS

Read the original source: http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/massive-ufo-hoax-sunday#ixzz1MyuHDUy4


19 posted on 05/21/2011 3:39:54 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave (Getting freepers to all agree, is like herding cats!)
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To: Las Vegas Dave

THX THX.


20 posted on 05/21/2011 4:34:09 AM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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