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Confederate sub upright for first time since 1864
Associated Press ^ | Fri Jun 24, 2011 | Bruce Smith

Posted on 06/24/2011 4:10:05 PM PDT by Hunton Peck

NORTH CHARLESTON, S.C. – The first submarine in history to sink an enemy warship is upright for the first time in almost 150 years, revealing a side of its hull not seen since it sank off the South Carolina coast during the Civil War.

Workers at a conservation lab finished the painstaking, two-day job of rotating the hand-cranked H.L. Hunley upright late Thursday.

The Hunley was resting on its side at a 45-degree angle on the bottom of the Atlantic when it was raised in August 2000 and scientists had kept it in slings in that position in the lab for the past 11 years.

But they needed to turn it upright to continue with the job of conservation.

Scientists hope the hidden side of the sub will provide clues as to why the Hunley sank with its eight-member crew in February, 1864, after sending the Union blockade ship Houstonic to the bottom.

While there was no immediate clue from a first look at the hidden hull but "we are seeing some tantalizing clues on that side," Hunley archaeologist Maria Jacobsen said Friday.

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There are various theories why the sub sank. It could have been damaged by fire from the Housatonic or the sub's crew was knocked out by the concussion from the blast that sank that ship. Or it could have been damaged by another Union vessel rescuing the Housatonic.

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The next step in conserving the Hunley comes next week when it will be lowered onto keel blocks to hold it upright. It will probably be a month before a truss and the slings that suspended the sub from it will be removed, providing an even better view of the submarine.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Science
KEYWORDS: confederate; csa; godsgravesglyphs; hlhunley; hunley; navy; southcarolina
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To: Hunton Peck

They need to repair it, because it might be needed again pretty soon. :)


21 posted on 06/24/2011 5:07:48 PM PDT by Sporke (USS-Iowa BB-61)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; Riley
Seems there's been a TV movie about it, that's available on DVD: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ias15VcHWbM (trailer).
22 posted on 06/24/2011 5:15:02 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Sporke

Defense budget cuts?


23 posted on 06/24/2011 5:16:10 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Hunton Peck

Yup. Ted Turner film. They had it showing continuously in the ante-hall outside the conservation tank.


24 posted on 06/24/2011 5:18:37 PM PDT by Riley (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column.)
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To: Cheetahcat

She was in a tank and underwent electrolysis for a long time to stabilize the iron. I haven’t figured out from this story or other articles whether she’s still in the tank or not.


25 posted on 06/24/2011 5:19:16 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Cheetahcat
Here's an article about the technology used in conservation :http://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0103/Byko-0103.html
26 posted on 06/24/2011 5:21:50 PM PDT by Hunton Peck (See my FR homepage for a list of businesses that support WI Gov. Scott Walker)
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To: Doohickey; SmithL
(((ping)))

Sunken ships as burial sites protocols?
27 posted on 06/24/2011 5:26:02 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhaul Congress!)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

I’ve seen a couple of 1-hour documentaries on TV.

There is no clear answer as to what sank the submarine. She signaled the men on shore after the attack. A fire was lit on shore to guide the men home.

Right now it sounds like they bottomed the boat, fell asleep and never woke up. The balast pumps were x-rayed and showed that the crew were not trying to pump out water.

There is a made-for-tv movie about the submarine. It was produced by the TNT network about 10 or 12 years ago. The writers had the men getting stuck on the bottom when they took on too much water.


28 posted on 06/24/2011 5:41:47 PM PDT by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: BIGLOOK
Sunken ships as burial sites protocols?

The crew were given a proper Confederate military burial. (The PC crowd didn't like this). My guess is that the benefit of raising the relatively small submarine out weighed everything else. Also she could not be protected where she was and there's the mystery of why she sank.

29 posted on 06/24/2011 5:47:54 PM PDT by Aglooka ("I was out numbered 5-to-1, I got 4.")
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To: Aglooka

Those men were frighteningly brave. That thing was a deathtrap,,,with almost no hope of escape.


30 posted on 06/24/2011 5:47:54 PM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office)
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To: max americana
...hunting libs will be so sweet.

Yeah, but they have no taste.....

31 posted on 06/24/2011 5:52:01 PM PDT by stboz
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To: stboz

Use their sorry carcass as a rug.


32 posted on 06/24/2011 5:54:43 PM PDT by max americana (.)
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To: Hunton Peck

Hey, thanks guys for the info and the link ,way cool stuff for 1863.


33 posted on 06/24/2011 6:15:55 PM PDT by Cheetahcat ( November 4 2008 ,A date that will live in Infamy.)
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To: Hunton Peck

i was there this past april. they think she will be in the tank until 2016. very nice place and, being it was a sunday, we got to go in and see her (no cameras, no phones, etc.) volunteers were very friendly and knowledgeable. down the road is the cemetary with the graves of the 2nd, 3rd, and last crews.

the movie is THE HUNLEY starring armand assante (the frog from ncis) and donald sutherland (oddball)


34 posted on 06/24/2011 6:18:35 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: BIGLOOK

(((ping)))

“one ping only.”


35 posted on 06/24/2011 6:20:27 PM PDT by bravo whiskey (If the little things really bother you, maybe it's because the big things are going well.)
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To: Riley

No, hven’t made it down there yet. They had a mock-up of the Hunley at the Air Show at Andrews Air Force Base years ago and they were selling shirts to help finance the recovery.


36 posted on 06/24/2011 6:24:31 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down!)
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To: Aglooka

37 posted on 06/24/2011 6:50:44 PM PDT by Stonewall Jackson (Democrats: "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.")
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To: Sporke
They need to repair it, because it might be needed again pretty soon. :)

I wouldn't worry about that. The last boat I was on was full of good ole boys. I was one of only two guys in my division who owned shoes before boot camp.

38 posted on 06/24/2011 6:59:40 PM PDT by Pan_Yan
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To: Aglooka

I thought they died from lack of oxygen. Didn’t they have oil lamps burning inside? IIRC, didn’t they also find the crewmen still in their uniforms/shoes? Anyway, fascinating.


39 posted on 06/24/2011 8:17:54 PM PDT by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: EQAndyBuzz; Hunton Peck

>>>> Seriously, are there any documentaries about the
Hunley?

As far as I know, the first “documentary” about the Hunley was an episode of the CBS series “The Great Adventure”. A show that took incidents of American history and portrayed them as accurately as they could for the time.

Original Air Date:
27 September 1963 (Season 1, Episode 1)

Jackie Cooper ... Lt. Dickson

James MacArthur ... Lt. Alexander

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0592453/combined


40 posted on 06/24/2011 8:36:39 PM PDT by tlb
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