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Evidence Found for Undiscovered Comet That May Threaten Earth
Space.com ^ | 7/27/11 | Mike Wall

Posted on 07/28/2011 8:51:45 AM PDT by LibWhacker

A surprise meteor shower spotted in February was likely caused by cosmic "bread crumbs" dropped by an undiscovered comet that could potentially pose a threat to Earth, astronomers announced today (July 27).

The tiny meteoroids that streaked through Earth's atmosphere for a few hours on Feb. 4 represent a previously unknown meteor shower, researchers said. The "shooting stars" arrived from the direction of the star Eta Draconis, so the shower is called the February Eta Draconids, or FEDs for short.

The bits of debris appear to have been shed by a long-period comet. Long-period comets whiz by the sun very infrequently, so it's tough to predict when they last cruised through our neck of the woods — and when they'll come back, researchers said.

That uncertainty is cause for some concern in this case, they added. [Close Encounters of the Comet Kind]

"If the meteoroids can hit us, so can the comet," said FEDs discoverer Peter Jenniskens, of the SETI (Search for Extraterrestrial Intelligence) Institute and NASA's Ames Research Center. "We don’t know whether the comet has already passed us by or is still on approach."

Still, Jenniskens stressed that the chances of such a collision are extremely remote.

Scanning the night sky

Jenniskens heads the Cameras for Allsky Meteor Surveillance (CAMS) project, which has been monitoring the San Francisco Bay Area's night skies with low-light video cameras in an effort to map meteor showers.

CAMS cameras picked up the FEDs, bringing the tally of officially recognized meteor showers to 64.

The comet that produced the meteor shower is unknown. It may have last zipped by the sun just a few hundred years ago, or many thousands, researchers said. But it apparently came relatively close to Earth on its last trip through the inner solar system. [Comet Dive-Bombs Sun During Big Solar Eruption]

At that time, the comet released a cloud of dust, which is now making its own way around the sun.

"Earth gets hosed typically only once or twice every 60 years by such streams," Jenniskens said. "The stream of dust is always there, but quite invisible just outside of Earth’s orbit. Only when the planets steer the dust in Earth’s path do we get to know it is there."

Learning more about the comet

Jenniskens teamed up with a colleague, Finnish astronomer Esko Lyytinen, to investigate when the FEDs might have another encounter with Earth. Lyytinen calculated a possible return in 2016 or 2023, and after that not again until 2076, researchers said.

Whenever the FEDs show up again, astronomers will study them closely. Future observations of the shower may reveal key information about its parent comet — including whether or not it poses a real danger of ever slamming into Earth.

However, it can be tough to gauge a comet's path based on how its sloughed-off pieces are moving around the solar system.

"The bits from the comet are not subjected to the same forces that the comet is," said Bill Cooke, head of the Meteoroid Environment Office at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala.

Dusty comet debris is affected primarily by things like radiation pressure and gravity, explained Cooke, who was not part of the FEDs discovery team. But comets' orbits are more of a wild card, since the icy wanderers tend to spawn gaseous jets as they approach the sun and begin heating up. These jets can have a big impact on comet trajectories.

"That's why tracking a comet can be quite a tricky business," Cooke told SPACE.com.

Don't worry too much

Despite the uncertainty, Cooke said the public shouldn't get into a panic about a potential "doomsday comet."

"Does this shower indicate that a comet's going to whack Earth? I kind of doubt it," he said. "I don't think you can infer from this meteor stream that the parent comet is in a potentially hazardous orbit."

Jenniskens as well urged some perspective, drawing on history as a guide.

"Chances are very small that the comet will actually hit us, as such impacts are rare in Earth’s history," he said.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: asteroids; billcooke; bread; catastrophism; comet; comets; crumbs; eskolyytinen; evidence; februaryetadraconids; feds; godsgravesglyphs; longperiodcomet; meteor; meteoroids; meteors; nasa; peterjenniskens; seti; shower; undiscovered
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To: LibWhacker

Sweet meteor o’ death!

C’mon, already!


21 posted on 11/21/2022 10:16:18 AM PST by Salamander (Please visit my profile page help save my beloved dog's life. https://www.givesendgo.com/G2FUF)
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To: silverleaf

FEDs are always dangerous!....................


22 posted on 11/21/2022 10:59:34 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: SunkenCiv

Eta Draconis = THE DRAGON!........................


23 posted on 11/21/2022 11:00:46 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

Sooo, this is from 2011. Therefore, I feel safe in predicting that it will not hit us until after 2022.


24 posted on 11/21/2022 11:03:30 AM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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To: COBOL2Java

Temperatures will be unseasonably warm 1200°F on one side of the planet, and a relatively cool 250°F on the other. Be sure to use plenty of sunscreen if you are out and about!...............


25 posted on 11/21/2022 11:03:36 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Penelope Dreadful

It might not reappear for centuries or millennia.

Or it could come next week...................


26 posted on 11/21/2022 11:05:11 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

I tried to eat a draconis once...


27 posted on 11/21/2022 11:37:08 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

But it gave you heartburn?.....................


28 posted on 11/21/2022 11:38:37 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger

I figger we won’t see the one that gets us until it is too late. You may enjoy this, on Netflix.

https://www.netflix.com/title/81211003


29 posted on 11/21/2022 11:44:25 AM PST by Penelope Dreadful (And there is Pansies, that's for Thoughts. +Sodomy & Abortion are NOT cornerstones of Civilization! )
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To: Penelope Dreadful

Oh, we’ll know alright.

It will be discovered by amateur astronomers all over the Earth.

What will happen when word gets out that it will definitely hit us?

Total chaos and mayhem.

In every country, every city and every neighborhood.

We may not survive even before it hits...................


30 posted on 11/21/2022 11:50:12 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Penelope Dreadful

I have always wondered whatever happened to humans before the last Ice Age?

People were still humans 50,000 years ago and had to have shelter, food and clothing.

Yet we find no traces of civilizations anywhere older than about 5000 years ago - 10,000 max.............................


31 posted on 11/21/2022 11:54:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: LibWhacker
This isn't going away until these writers are humiliated. And then they will turn on their employers.

"Evidence Found for Undiscovered Comet That May Threaten Earth"

"Don't worry too much"

Despite the uncertainty, Cooke said the public shouldn't get into a panic about a potential "doomsday comet."

"Does this shower indicate that a comet's going to whack Earth? I kind of doubt it," he said. "I don't think you can infer from this meteor stream that the parent comet is in a potentially hazardous orbit."

Jenniskens as well urged some perspective, drawing on history as a guide.

"Chances are very small that the comet will actually hit us, as such impacts are rare in Earth’s history," he said."


32 posted on 11/21/2022 4:42:32 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Red Badger
"I have always wondered whatever happened to humans before the last Ice Age?

People were still humans 50,000 years ago and had to have shelter, food and clothing.

Yet we find no traces of civilizations anywhere older than about 5000 years ago - 10,000 max."

My opinion is that both Homo sapiens and Homo neanderthalensis lived in such small colonies that no written language was needed -- and hell, that survived until mid-last century -- and that was pretty much the status quo for the 10,000 years before that. Therefore no 'traces' other than bones and whatever period artifacts the layers give up.

We, for some reason, only account for 'traces' through the earliest recorded surviving fairly organized 'language', Egyptian hieratics.

Yet we know instinctively that civilization is much older, much more organized that whatever is dispensed through the pubrik skrewel system.

To wit: the Greek civilization that produced the Antikythera Mechanism? Sorry, that means there were similar 'computers' that organized not just celestial details but daily life Before Christ.

Which, fascinatingly, makes Christ's murder a modern assassination.

33 posted on 11/21/2022 4:57:14 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: Red Badger

The moral of the story is, let your pages do the walking through the yellow fingers. /punchline


34 posted on 11/21/2022 5:19:23 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: Red Badger
The Sphinx, Gobekli Tepe, Ancient Catastrophes - Dr. Robert Schoch

Robert Schoch's work on the Great Sphinx and other ancient sites is going to eventually work it's way into our history books as the true story of our unknown past. What the "standard" model of history tells us in no way matches up with archeological and geological discoveries and ancient text.

Ancient Catastrophes

35 posted on 11/22/2022 5:23:47 AM PST by Max in Utah (A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within.)
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To: StAnDeliver

Rare, slim chances, but not impossible......................


36 posted on 11/22/2022 5:31:19 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Red Badger
"Rare, slim chances, but not impossible......................"

Don't eliminate the rare, slim, but not impossible possibility that an ancient civilization that had most everything we had -- minus silicon-based communication/computing devices -- bit the dust and left no trace. So much of what is right and wrong about India is based directly on this canon.

37 posted on 11/23/2022 2:57:23 PM PST by StAnDeliver (Tanned, rested, and ready.)
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To: StAnDeliver

“Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth.” - Arthur Conan Doyle / Sherlock Holmes............


38 posted on 11/28/2022 6:48:05 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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