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Has anyone heard anything about chemist working on ammunition with a 5 month shelf life(vanity)
8/21/11 | vanity

Posted on 08/21/2011 3:13:27 PM PDT by BBell

So I'm at the local sports big box store and a clerk from the gun counter tells me that the government has chemist working on ammunition that will only have a 5 month shelf life. I tell him I never heard of this. He tells me to look it up. So I went home and I did. All I could find on the internet were rumors, nothing solid.

I ask a fellow I know who works in the sporting section at Walmart about this. He told me he has had several people ask him if our ammo is the kind with the short shelf life. He says he has never heard of ammo with a short shelf life.

Does anyone out here in Freeper land know anything about this? I think it sounds like B.S but then again nothing would surprise me with the current administration.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Conspiracy; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: ammunition; conspiracy; fascist; infiltrators; lurkers; police; propaganda; shelflife; socialists; trolls
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To: PapaBear3625

AND it all runs on a battery.

I am really laughing now.


41 posted on 08/21/2011 4:16:31 PM PDT by macquire
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To: BBell

Is this another lesbian story?


42 posted on 08/21/2011 4:20:36 PM PDT by Raycpa
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To: PapaBear3625

Pass me the humble pie.

I may not like what I read, but I genuinely appreciate the correction.


43 posted on 08/21/2011 4:21:39 PM PDT by labette ( Humble student of Thinkology)
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To: lacrew

About 10 or so years ago I worked for a co which needed more
speed from a higher priced ‘professional class’ video card product line than from it’s lower priced ‘consumer’ model.

The parts used in the two cards were mostly identical where it mattered.

One was for ‘serious’ apps like Solidworks, the other was for gamers, poseurs, or Flash artists.

They had different drivers and different GPU clock speeds as sold. Russian hackers figured out that they could create a new firmware download for the GPU and the proper Windows registry/ini file incantations to allow the cheap card to use the expensive card’s driver.

Since the Russian gamers had figured out how to speed up the GPU clock the only way to go was to detect the card’s
id string and add sleeps to the software rendering pipeline, according to the card’s price point.

This is a common buisness problem, how to create an illusion of more value for $$.


44 posted on 08/21/2011 4:24:18 PM PDT by RitchieAprile (The Democrat Party is a continuing criminal enterprise..)
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To: BBell

A few highly placed members of the radical left (incl. some in the Obama Administration) have been spreading such rumors for the purpose of making ammunition supplies more expensive and harder for redneck trash like us to get.

The rumors are started and continued in conservative discussion venues mainly by socialist/police state infiltrators.


45 posted on 08/21/2011 4:26:47 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: SkyDancer
Posting unfounded rumors is an extremely cruel and destructive disservice to people who read (and might believe) such drivel.
46 posted on 08/21/2011 4:27:10 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: patton

Produced with great care suitable for muzzle loaders and such.


47 posted on 08/21/2011 4:29:06 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: labette

I can imagine far more terrible “What if” scenarios. Why waste peoples time?


48 posted on 08/21/2011 4:30:39 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: PapaBear3625
Please understand that patents are issued based upon the inventors “claims” not substantiated fact. My comments stand.
49 posted on 08/21/2011 4:34:09 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: BBell
Yes, mayonnaise is mixed with the powder and after five months the mayo has gone rancid and spoiled ruining the ammo. Storing in a cool place will prolong shelf life.
50 posted on 08/21/2011 4:34:40 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: labette
I can remember buying surplus 7.62x51 NATO for a little as 15 cents a round. A hundred dollar bill would get you over a thousand rounds of commie 7.62x39.

Those days are gone.

Not really... you can still get surplus AK rounds for less that 20 cents a piece. The surplus 7.62x51 is around 30 cents a piece. This is with free shipping and no tax most of the time. Everything else is two or more times as expensive now than in the Clinton years, so in inflation adjusted dollars I don't think that ammo is that much more expensive now.

I reload my own which is even cheaper and easier on your guns than the surplus ammo. I just bought 400 rounds of boxer primed reloadable 7.62 x 51 NATO for slightly more than 50 cents a piece with free shipping and no tax. I can reload them with my homemade cast bullets and a reduced charge of Hodgdons 4895 powder for less than 15 cents a piece. I use a turret press for those and a progressive press for my pistol cartridges so I can churn them out almost as fast as I can shoot them. 9mm costs only about 5 cents a piece to reload with a homemade cast bullet.

51 posted on 08/21/2011 4:35:17 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: PapaBear3625

See Post 49.


52 posted on 08/21/2011 4:35:37 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: labette; Buffalo Head

Electric ignition would be too dependent on materials, handling and environmental conditions. Development toward any great degree of dependability and safety (squibs, static, etc.) would probably be a very long process. Also expensive and unnecessary. I was a demo man for the Army NG for seven years.


53 posted on 08/21/2011 4:43:50 PM PDT by familyop ("Plan? There ain't no plan!" --Pigkiller, "Beyond Thunderdome")
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To: count-your-change

Yeah, but a passable product can be produced in any frontier cabin.


54 posted on 08/21/2011 4:50:39 PM PDT by patton (I am sure that I have done dumber things in my life, but at the moment, I am unable to recall them.)
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To: labette

I remember those days. At gun shows the lowest price I ever saw for that NORICO 7.62x39 was 59.95 for a crate of a thousand. I bought some and years later some of it I had was flooded by Katrina. I washed it in fresh water, coated it in liquid wrench and was surprised that all the rounds I tried fired just fine. Those were the days when you would go to gun shows to get good deals. Not anymore. I don’t even bother going these days.


55 posted on 08/21/2011 4:51:21 PM PDT by BBell
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To: PapaBear3625

I see, it’s the primers not the powder they will go after.


56 posted on 08/21/2011 4:52:54 PM PDT by BBell
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To: BBell

Its utter BS. The laws of physics, chemistry and thermodynamics do not change.


57 posted on 08/21/2011 4:56:20 PM PDT by DarthVader (That which supports Barack Hussein Obama must be sterilized and there are NO exceptions!)
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To: patton

Have you ever tried to make gun powder? If so, how did the it turn out?


58 posted on 08/21/2011 4:58:46 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: BBell

Good way for an ammo company to go out of business. Who would buy it? Who would want to sell it?


59 posted on 08/21/2011 4:59:06 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter Hobbit)
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To: BBell
"....coated it in liquid wrench...."

You did WHAT and for what purpose?

Penetrating oils are meant to penetrate tight mechanical fits. Ammunition is assembled with tight mechanical fits between primer and shellcase and between bullet and shellcase to minimize the potential for moisture and solvents to enter the cartridge and damage the powder and/or primer.

You apparently proved the merit of Chicom primer and bullet sealants. Being lucky once doesn't mean you can get away with it again.

60 posted on 08/21/2011 5:08:17 PM PDT by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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