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Where have the real men in this country gone?
Adrienne's Corner ^ | November 9, 2011 | Adrienne

Posted on 11/10/2011 7:13:06 AM PST by Publius804

All this brouhaha over Joe Paterno is obscuring the real problem. According to the Grand Jury report about the abuse of young boys by Jerry Sandusky, he was caught in the act at least twice by grown men. These men backed out of the room and did nothing to save the boy being raped. What kind of world do we live in that a man would turn his back on a criminal act being perpetrated on anyone - let alone a child?

Mike McQueary, one of the men in question, is being criticized for not calling police. Calling police? A real man would have the courage to immediately stop what was going on.

I'm a woman who is only 5'2" tall. When I was working at Costco, a fellow employee was being physically assaulted in the parking lot by a very large crazy woman. The woman had the employee, also a woman, pinned in a car door with the intent of jumping in the car and driving off. I didn't hesitate one nano-second before flattening the perpetrator and pinning her arm behind her back until the police arrived. And I wouldn't have hesitated to have flattened Sandusky. Yet we have several full-sized "men" who turned their backs on children being assaulted?

I've even seen some articles calling McQueary a "scapegoat." He's not a scapegoat - he's a coward.

And Paterno?

“This is a tragedy,” Paterno said. “It is one of the great sorrows of my life. With the benefit of hindsight, I wish I had done more.”

What's the tragedy, Mr. Paterno? The fact you got caught, or what actually happened?

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TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Society; Sports
KEYWORDS: paterno; pennstate
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1 posted on 11/10/2011 7:13:07 AM PST by Publius804
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To: Publius804

Good article.


2 posted on 11/10/2011 7:14:40 AM PST by alarm rider (I took the pledge, I will never vote for another RINO, not now, not ever.)
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To: Publius804

Given the reactions of those jokes called students at Penn State, there are no real men or women any more there in the student body.

Any university that considers mere sports more important than education....is not a university.


3 posted on 11/10/2011 7:18:06 AM PST by Da Coyote (Liberalism - when you absolutely, positively have no ability to produce wealth.)
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To: alarm rider

I thought that was part of the new alternative lifestyle that the left is so PROUD of?
It’s on TV, in the movies, it’s promoted everywhere.
Maybe Sandusky was just training new democrat voters......


4 posted on 11/10/2011 7:18:23 AM PST by 9422WMR
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To: Publius804

Real men, feminism, and political correctness are incomptable They cannot coexist. Guess which one gave out?


5 posted on 11/10/2011 7:19:43 AM PST by yetidog
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To: Publius804

Were there any women on the scene? It seems to me that if there had been a nurse or someone of the female persuasion, the rapes would not have occurred and/or the coverup would have been exposed in a nanosecond.

Men simply can’t handle this stuff. Too much at stake.


6 posted on 11/10/2011 7:25:28 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Let's have a Cain Mutiny!)
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To: Publius804

Where have the real men gone?

Well, one factor is that if someone had intervened, then he could be charged with assault and battery himself. He would get involved in a long legal process, dragged throught the mud, etc.

Another factor is that Sandusky was a powerful person. You don’t take on powerful people without consequences. In our litigious society, some would think twice before getting involved as an adversary against someone in a position of power.

Ideally, someone coming up on someone raping a child, or committing any other crime, will intervene and stop the crime. But in this day and age, people have fear of doing that.

Fear of consequences is a strong motivator to NOT do “the right thing”, as so many talking heads are saying about this case. Just look at all the drive by shootings in the ghetto. People get shot all the time by these youth gangs, and there are never any witnesses. Nobody saw anything, though these shootings often happen on crowded city streets. The same concept could explain why people at Penn State allegedly knew about what was happening, but were afraid to say anything.


7 posted on 11/10/2011 7:25:56 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Publius804

“Real men” go to jail or are shunned by society for violence and/or anything else a feminist, liberal can come up with for their actions. Men are to cower and wait for instructions on what to do from their wives or girlfriends. If you’re a white man you’re doubly screwed because you are to be taunted and taken advantage of as well.


8 posted on 11/10/2011 7:28:44 AM PST by albie
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To: yetidog
Real men, feminism, and political correctness are incomptable They cannot coexist. Guess which one gave out?

Winner. If there are no real men left in America, it's because the women killed them off.

9 posted on 11/10/2011 7:29:03 AM PST by jpl (What do the White House and Zuccotti Park have in common? They're both full of B.O.)
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To: Publius804
One word never used in this episode is ....

Homosexual

This scorn of Sandusky's behavior does not fit into the gay agenda template. The trend these days is to accept this type of behavior as normal. Sandusky can't help it...he was "born this way". After all, there is a thriving organization, totally shielded by today's media and pop culture devoted completely to the rape of young boys by homosexual pedophiles.

10 posted on 11/10/2011 7:32:32 AM PST by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Well, one factor is that if someone had intervened, then he could be charged with assault and battery himself.
Not a valid reason to fail to act. It is just a form of cowardice.

You don’t take on powerful people without consequences.
So, just kill him outright. Then face the consequences like a man.
Fear of consequences is a strong motivator to NOT do “the right thing”...

Overcoming that fear is what "bravery" is all about. Cowards can't overcome that fear.

Most of today's men are sad cases of humanity. In all human endeavor, doing the right thing despite the consequences is always the right thing to do. There is little honor in doing otherwise. Our society is degrading over this one issue.

11 posted on 11/10/2011 7:35:29 AM PST by GingisK
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To: jpl
If there are no real men left in America, it's because the women killed them off.

There were no real men left in America if women could kill them off. The blame cannot be shifted to women.

12 posted on 11/10/2011 7:37:08 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Publius804

I will probably get flamed for this but don’t blame ALL men. I can’t stand when a situation occurs and some men do something and everyone is blaming every guy in the room. The MEN that I know (in my family, my life and on FR) would have done the right thing. The young man that I am raising into adulthood, would have done the right thing. If someone wants to debate about sports vs. morality or acceptance of child rape... I’m all in. However, I am not ready to accept that men in general... the men that I know... would have accepted a scene of a man raping a little boy as casual. Just a thought.


13 posted on 11/10/2011 7:44:52 AM PST by momtothree
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I am very conflicted about this whole situation for Joe Paterno.

He informed his superiors, so he did the right thing there. Should he have gone to the police? I think so. But there is this to consider. There are a lot of scumbags out there, people who will use false accusations of sexual misconduct without a second thought if they think there is something in it for them. There are even people out there who will do it simply for malice, alone.

I understand the first type of person, I really do. That doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be punished if they are caught. They are complete scum. But the second type I do not understand, at all.

But I digress. Do you want to involve the police in a scandal that could ruin a man’s life about something of which you have no personal knowledge. It’s not like men get a fair shake in the legal system, anyway. Not about sexual matters, where it is well known that women and children don’t lie. Also, there are the scumbag prosecutors like the doomed-to-hell (one would hope) DA in the Duke case.

Joe reported it to his superiors, who should have investigated further. People are saying he had a moral failing, and maybe he did. Maybe he was even involved in a cover-up. Or maybe he just made an error in judgment. I don’t know, but until I do know, I’m willing to give him a little benefit of the doubt.

All that being said, of course, error in judgment or moral failing, he did fail in his job, and I think he had to go.

As I said, I’m conflicted about this.


14 posted on 11/10/2011 7:54:28 AM PST by chesley (Eat what you want, and die like a man. Never trust anyone who hasn't been punched in the face)
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To: GingisK

Preach it! And amen to your post #12 too.


15 posted on 11/10/2011 8:09:17 AM PST by mockingbyrd
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To: alarm rider
These men backed out of the room and did nothing to save the boy being raped. What kind of world do we live in that a man would turn his back on a criminal act being perpetrated on anyone - let alone a child?

Amen. We look to the 'authority' and never assume responsibility.
16 posted on 11/10/2011 8:17:55 AM PST by AD from SpringBay (We deserve the government we allow.)
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To: chesley
Amen to your post #14. I too am conflicted about Paterno. I do know one thing though: you want to talk about cowardice, the fact that the board at PSU didn't have the gonads to meet him face to face, esp. after all he's done over the years for that school, really rubs me the wrong way.

For all his faults, at least Jerry Jones had the courage to meet Tom Landry face to face when he fired him.

17 posted on 11/10/2011 8:17:55 AM PST by Marathoner (Occupy Wall Street = Useful Idiots on Parade)
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18 posted on 11/10/2011 8:24:50 AM PST by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: GingisK

Killing Sandusky would have made the matter hard to prosecute because Sandusky wouldn’t have been around to make lying accusations.

The sodomite lifestyle cannot be tolerated. It will destroy everything it touches.


19 posted on 11/10/2011 8:31:51 AM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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To: GingisK

What you said.

I was raped as a child, I told my parents the who and when. As my siblings told me later, once I was at the hospital, my dad, grandpa, and uncles ‘took a ride’. But mom made a phone call and the cops got there first. I WOULD NOT HESITATE TO DO WHATEVER IS NECESSARY TO PROTECT A CHILD, ESPECIALLY IN THIS SITUATION. Protecting children should always come first.


20 posted on 11/10/2011 8:33:19 AM PST by Kitten1 (12/23/1898; 12/25/1901; 3/6/36; 6/25/39; 9/11/55 -- Your sacrifice is not forgotten.)
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