Posted on 01/14/2012 4:53:20 AM PST by goodwithagun
“God is angry with the wicked every day” (Psalm 7:11).
Nice
Exactly, hell isn’t just after a person leaves the earthly vehicle.
If you understand how the human soul functions, then you can understand this whole question about why being single is better than being married and why husband & wife become one in the eyes of God. It’s easy to demonstrate.
“Really? Are you referring to Ephesians 5? Paul himself tells us in verse 32 that this is a great mystery. I’m glad that you can easily demonstrate this but if you are claiming something is easy that Paul describes as hard, I suspect that your understanding is faulty.”
We are in interesting times and the mysteries are becoming known. I stand by what I am saying. It is so easy to explain and demonstrate how the soul fields merge for people when they are in a relationship. I have them stand side by side and close their eyes. I push on their soul(never touching them physically) and they do not move. I then have them separate by standing about 30 feet apart and it is pretty easy to push them over by merely touching their soul field in the same manner. Two souls connected are like a catamaran on rough water. Much more stable than a kayak or canoe.
Soul fields at their smallest part go out about 15 feet in all directions. That means that if two people are within 30 feet of each other they are overlapped. When the two are connected, they merge to compliment each other in order to become more “Whole.” (this is also the foundation of rock for the house Jesus spoke of) Love is the glue that holds the two aspects of the soul together. There are many frequencies of love as the glue must work at each level of consciousness. (Note: this is also why people go through the feeling as though their heart was ripped out when their spouse dies)
However, spiritually, it is better for a person to remain single and grow to find both aspects of their soul and love within themselves rather than using another person as a crutch. That’s why one must go within in order to know thy Father. That’s also why the first commandment given by Jesus is so important as Loving God provides the stimulation for upward soul growth.
When I read the soul fields of a gay person, I can usually identify the change in consciousness event that triggered the change in sexual preference. Whether a person is attracted toward a masculine or feminine aspect of another person is totally a function of the dominate soul pattern in their own soul field. It really is that simple. How do I do it? I just read the memories stored in their soul fields. They are out there like billboards. I do not judge them. Sometimes it is not even the gay person causing the change in themselves, but an attached spirit creating the behavior in its host.
Just open up and allow the Holy Spirit to function within yourself. It’s why Jesus said, “the things that I do and more you too shall do” when He sent His disciples out. Follow scripture and live and experience it. Don’t just be like Peter sinking in the water with doubt. Think from your heart and your head, not just your head.
In many ways, Paul carried over some of his legalism from when he was Saul. His motive was pure, but his thoughts clouded with his old ways. He was speaking about a truth, but interpreting it in a legalistic manner.
Jesus had problems with the legalistic Pharisees challenging Him the same way you are challenging. If you live by the law, then you will judge yourself and be saved or not saved according to that law. Me, I chose to live in Love where I lift people up, not tear them down. I choose to save, not judge in my life as I try to emulate the teachings of my master, Jesus. If I must tear someone down to appear elevated, I am not very high in God’s eyes.
I’m frustrated by all the so called Christians who call Jesus their Savior and treat Him as lifeguard who can rescue them from drowning after they die. (In the mean time they are afraid of water) Jesus was teaching us how to swim (live) so we can save ourselves and others by being a part of Him. He was/is a rabbi or teacher.
I do so wish I could share the treasure that was buried in the field, but everyone must find it themselves. I can tell you all day what a rose smells like, but it will not come close to your experiencing one sniff first hand.
“Maybe there isn’t really a hell?”
For the sake of this argement it doesn’t really matter. If you are a CHristian and believe there is one then the only true loving response is to try to help others to not got there.
Mel
“”Maybe there isn’t really a hell?”
For the sake of this argement it doesn’t really matter. If you are a CHristian and believe there is one then the only true loving response is to try to help others to not got there.
Mel””
It is far better to teach by example than to lower ourselves to the level where we get burned too.
If Jesus taught us that the most important commandments both included “Love”, are we not violating the most important commandment to do otherwise.
“If Jesus taught us that the most important commandments both included “Love”, are we not violating the most important commandments to do otherwise?”
Take that a logical step further. How many times in the Bible does it say “God is Love?” And, if “perfect Love casts out fear”, all these people who are holding on to fear or saying “fear God” are actually keeping that experience of Love out of their lives and are torturing themselves. John was correct when he stated “Whoever claims to Love God yet hates a brother or a sister is a liar.” ..... “Anyone who Loves God must also Love their brother and sister.”
If people could only understand why this is very true, the world would be a far better place. It is only the promise of “Heaven on Earth” in the future that gives me hope as we encounter the difficulties that lie ahead.
Most importantly, If our Savior gave us two critical commandments to obey, anytime we interpret a lessor rule or regulation in a way that causes us to violate the greater commandments, we are getting off the path.
I wrote this note a while ago, but I won’t blog pimp so I will post it here in this reply. Sorry for the length.
Why I can’t join the group against Westboro.
by kimmie7 on Tuesday, May 4, 2010 at 10:03am
I’ve been invited by a treasured friend from my past to join the “United Against Westboro Baptist” group. My initial reaction was “Oh Yeah!” - a reaction stemming from my emotions more than my brain.
First,from a Constitutional standpoint, I cannot join. Because taking away their right to peacefully assemble (no matter how hateful their rhetoric), it becomes the first domino on a downhill slant. Next could be the Tea Partiers, then Christians engaged in street preaching, then Christians in general, then Jews, and so on. So no, as much as I hate what they say, I cannot support revoking their First Amendment rights. (Amendment I: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.)
Instead, I will support Rolling Thunder, a great group of bikers, several of whom I’m privileged to know (albeit online). Here’s part of what they do: One other task that Rolling Thunder undertakes is protecting family members of fallen soldiers from protesters, namely representatives of the Kansas-based Westboro Baptist Church, who claim that soldiers are dying due to God’s punishment for America’s stand on gay rights.” To learn more, check out this article: http://www.rollingthundertn1.com/Newsarticles.htm
Now, from a Christian standpoint. I find Westboro’s actions repulsive. Their actions are a blot on the Christian community. Not because they call sin sin but because of their lack of love. I suppose I need to put out a disclaimer: I am a sinner saved by grace. A horribly flawed person whose sins were numerous. The only claim I have to Heaven is through the grace of God through the birth, death and resurrection of His Son, Jesus Christ. The only right I have to name sin as sin is by the written word of God, the Bible.
But the Bible doesn’t only teach us about sin and sinners, it teaches how to know God’s own. Those who have come to saving grace through Christ and are living according to his word. Jesus said you will know them by their fruits. (Mat. 7:16) The fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control. (Gal. 5:22)
Now, back to Westboro. They love to protest at military funerals. They love to hoist their signs that say things like “God hates Gays” and “Thank God for Dead Soldiers”. I’m trying to figure out which of the fruit those signs exemplify....hmmmm....waiting.....waiting.... I got nothin.
Okay, so how about their signs, God hates Gays? Why don’t we see what God himself has to say about that? K, I got one for that...”For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.” (John 3:16) So now we see that God loved the world. That includes old people, fat people, ugly people, pretty people, (we’re all okay with that so far, huh?) gay people, tax evaders (hey, wait!), athiests, witches, satanists, murderers. Don’t argue with me. God means what He says. And He said “the world”. That’s everybody, all of us. Now, let’s not get too shook up...there’s a requirement there. They’ve got to believe in Him to not perish...and once you have become a sinner saved by grace, there is still a lot of work to be done. So we can’t just very flippantly say, “Oh, I believe in Jesus.” and expect to have eternal life. God’s Son didn’t die on a cross so we could get our “fire insurance” and then live the way we want, but that’s a lesson for another day.
Westboro is wrong...God does love gay people. And so should we. You’ve heard “love the sinner, hate the sin”? That’s entirely doable. I love my son very much. But I really hate it when his attitude is snotty, or when he lies to me. In fact, all that does is cement the fact to me that I am to raise him in fear and admonition of the Lord. It creates in me a love greater than that of a mother — that of a child of God praying for His salvation and assurance of Heaven. I have many gay friends. I love each and every one of them. I cannot and will not condone their lifestyle, as God’s word teaches that homosexuality is sin, but I will continue to love them enough to pray for them.
Back to Westboro, I cannot judge their relationship with God. But I can look at fruit (or the lack thereof). And for those who don’t know it, I can reference the entire chapter of Matthew 7. If you’re not familiar with it, here is a link to it online. My version of choice, the New American Standard Version. http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+7&version=NASB
This has been a really long note, I know. I thank you for hanging in to the end. I love you. Each and every one. I’d love to spend eternity with you...praising God throughout the ages.
“Often a straight male can not deal with the stimulation experienced by the energy of a feminine man,as it is intellectually unacceptable to them.”
I’d think they’re more repulsed by what that “man” does; in any case some gay men aren’t feminine at all. I never understood why some gay men would want a “feminine” gay man; why wouldn’t they simply date a woman instead of a man pretending to be one? There’s no junk getting in the way...
“I’d think”......
This is exactly what I am describing. When the thinking is at odds with the subconscious emotional energy a person is experiencing. These same energies create phobias and PTSD which is far from logical and creates havoc in a person’s life when they appear.
There are often greater dynamics at work than can be viewed on the surface. However, allow me to add, there is usually a reason for just about all perceptions and actions, its just that the event where we formulated the perception is often hidden from us.
Please expalin?
Mel
I know the two commandments you speak of so you don’t have to explain that. Jesus says that these two commandments fulfill the Law and the Prophets. So this is the end unto which the Law was made and the Prophet’s fortold. So did the Law change or did the Prophet’s prophecy wrongly. Did one jot or tittle of the Law change. No they exist to point us to the Love and Mercy of Christ which is what we preach.
Don’t get the impression that I go around condemning people for the life they choose. In fact I know many gay people, mainly through work, and none have ever received a condemning word from me. In fact I go out of my way to love and support them because I know the damage caused by the “God hates Fags” people. That does not mean that if questioned or if a conversation heads that way I would withold the truth. To me it is Love that demands it. That truth is that we are all in need of a Saviour.
Blessings
Mel
For curiosity sake, do you belong to a church? If so, which one?
I don’t remember when I decided to walk on my feet, but it is perfectly natural. However, you can “decide” to walk on your hands and making such a decision does not make walking on your hands normal.
Hint: “Walking on feet” equal heterosexual and “walking on hands” equal homosexual.
What I do is not weird new age stuff. It’s old age Bible stuff. I’m a scientist and it took me a lot of years to reconcile my experiences with logical scientific understanding. In fact I entered the neuroscience field in order to understand how my own experiences were possible.
Right now I’m involved in a research project at a major medical school which I expect will be published in a journal later this year. It’s been approved by the university IRB and is fast tracked for completion. Preliminary results were excellent.
I am primarily my own person and my worship is daily with God in meditation & prayer. I read the Bible most days. However, I do belong to and am actively involved with a congregation affiliated with a Divinity School. I was raised Lutheran, fell away from church, but a near death experience in 1988 brought me back on a searching path. My own experiences were really freaking me out.
I’m a Bible believing Christian. But also more than that as for me, it’s experiential, not just theoretical.
I often present to metaphysical groups and warn them about the dangers associated with channeling and trance states. They open their doors to me as I can explain exactly how they do what they do and demonstrate the dangers.
I’ve been a consultant for several major denominations and independent church groups thus I have a very diverse exposure. Some mainstream, some messianic, some horse & buggy fundamentalist, some I would consider cults. One of my research areas is cult programming, mind control techniques and deprogramming in order to warn people how the false religion process and experience works.
For many years now I have been studying the spiritual enlightenment process or awakening in all religions and researching mystics and mystical experiences. They are very similar experiences no matter the religion. All my studies have served to reinforce my belief in the Bible as very accurate and being a Divine inspiration.
Sounds good to me.
I have no desire to respond to his twisted thinking. The main and fatal mistake is the assertion that if we don't love everyone, we must hate them all. I reject that in total.
I don't love most people I know. Not because of what they are but by how they act.
I have never, ever, not once, had a nervous breakdown because someone might think I'm a heterosexual. Sounds silly? That is the crux of the discussion, because I have never felt the need to announce the fact that I am hetero. I would seriously stay away from anyone else who felt the need. Does that reveal a flaw in my humanity or my faith? No in the least.
I would consider it a sign of a serious neurosis if a total stranger, or even a casual acquaintance announced that he is a scratch golfer or an expert tennis player. No jusdgement involved, no love or hate involved, no religion involved.
Attempting to make me feel guilty for using my human faculties of dicrimination and choice isn't going to work
I can end my responce with the reality that I have friends who are gay. Most of them I was not aware of for years and I strongly suspect some others yet remain unknown as gay, but "loved" no less than every other friend I've had.
Approach me with "in your face" attitude and you can go to hell. Totally detached from the religious sense.
Oh really? I would guess that these conclusions have been reached entirely by gays, or gay support groups.
Revulsion is the usual reaction from a normal male, and the overwhelming majority of us have absolutely no inclination to bash anyone, gay or straight.
I must just point out the obvious : Corelation is not necessarily causation.
“Corelation is not necessarily causation.”
I agree... But 100 % correlation in a double blind is pretty good. By the way, what I do is causation. Pure stimulus/measurable response, repeatable without the bias of the critical mind.
That’s why I never considered psychology a science, due to the biased variable of the critical mind. That is until I discovered a way to bypass it and read the emotional subconscious stored memories directly.
“I would guess that these conclusions have been reached entirely by gays, or gay support groups.”
Your guess is incorrect. First, I am not gay, never have been nor expect to be. However, I did claim to be a lesbian in a man’s body while dating in college to pick up cute chicks! Humor intended... the points I made earlier are entirely mine based upon research. Don’t think you will find them published anywhere.
I get a lot of flack from gays on what I say. They try to say it’s genetic and they have no choice. They get upset when I show them otherwise.
So how is this "soul field" any different than the New Age concept of auras? A rose by any other name... The New Age/metaphysical movement makes the same claim that they are just rediscovering old age Bible concepts. Your proof sounds like the proof that is used on late night TV to sell those Irenew bracelets.
I notice that you are trying really hard not to specifically name your current congregation or its divinity school. I assume it is because you know that you have already sent up enough red flags with your metaphysical experiences. I assume that the specific name would just cause more warning flags to fly.
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