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Trayvon Martin shooting: It's not George Zimmerman crying for help on 911 recording, 2 experts say

Posted on 04/14/2012 9:52:22 AM PDT by CottShop

Haven't seen htis posted yet- it seems to be all over htel iberal news lately, but no mention of it here on FR- Just want to get people's reaction to this and their thoughts- Here's the link as I'm not sure how much of hte article can be posted- but basically it has 2 'experts' on voice annalysis that declare that hte voice is not George Zimmerman's voice

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-31/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-911-20120331_1_voice-identification-expert-reasonable-scientific-certainty


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1 posted on 04/14/2012 9:52:26 AM PDT by CottShop
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To: CottShop

sorry abotu htel ink- http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-31/news/os-trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-911-20120331_1_voice-identification-expert-reasonable-scientific-certainty


2 posted on 04/14/2012 9:54:05 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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see what comes out in the trial.....unnamed “experts” are good at altering photo’s too....and police tapes as we know


3 posted on 04/14/2012 9:55:12 AM PDT by Doogle (((USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated)))
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To: CottShop

There is no sample of Trayvon’s voice and the last expert said there is about half a chance it was George.

Also there is the issue that this is a cell phone at a distance carrying the cries. So this is imperfect.

Also, the witness who saw most of this off his patio said it was George at the bottom getting slammed that was crying for help.

There was no evidense of anything on Trayvon minus the gun shot.
There is a broken nose, lacerations and so forth on Zimmerman.
Trayvon was on top, not the defense IMO.


4 posted on 04/14/2012 9:56:20 AM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Trayvon Martin shooting:

A battle between "guilty until proven innocent" and "Innocent until proven guilty" brought on by the brain dead and promoted by the MSM.

5 posted on 04/14/2012 9:57:36 AM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: CottShop

Wagist.com debunked this.

One of the experts used his own new software tested by the same accreditation mill that certified him.


6 posted on 04/14/2012 9:58:06 AM PDT by Bogey78O (Don't call them jihadis. Call them irhabis. Tick them off, don't entertain their delusion.)
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To: CottShop

What about a lie detector test? If it’s good enough for Jerry Springer...

/sarcasm...sorta


7 posted on 04/14/2012 9:58:10 AM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts bolt the Constitution together as the loose screws of the Left fall out!)
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To: CottShop

My reaction is this.

Ho

Hum

Its yesterdays news, its over. It was self defense.

Put a cone of silence over the whole thing and a box of socks in the mouths complaining, they won’t let it go because its just an opportunity to inflame riots.

Obama wants continuation.

Lets deny Obama this opportunity.


8 posted on 04/14/2012 10:01:16 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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To: CottShop

This whole thing on Zimmerman should be dropped. He was tried and convicted in the media. Enough already.


9 posted on 04/14/2012 10:03:20 AM PDT by SkyDancer ("Talent Without Ambition Is Sad - Ambition Without Talent Is Worse")
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This has been covered, the “experts” are self appointed.


10 posted on 04/14/2012 10:03:28 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: CottShop

These days, most “experts” are usually FOS. NASA’s James Hansen is an “expert”.


11 posted on 04/14/2012 10:05:43 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (ObamaCare is like a stool sample. You have to pass it to find out what's in it.)
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...but no mention of it here on FR...
Wrong! Been there done that and it's BS.
@Voice forensics experts cast doubt on Sentinel analysis of Trayvon Martin 911 tape

voice analysis "Tom Owen" zimmerman site:freerepublic.com Orlando Sentinel

12 posted on 04/14/2012 10:07:17 AM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Eye of Unk

[[Its yesterdays news, its over. It was self defense.]]

Thast’s true, it was self defensse, however the left doesn’t give a crap abotu hte facts, so this is not over and we won’t be able to silence it- I’m just wondering how badly zimmerman is goign to get railroaded, and when I ran acoss thsi article and saw that it was beign plastered all over the leftist news sites and bliogs, as though it was a great ‘victory’ for them (read, great injustice to those who aren’t black), It worried me that such injustice coukld be perpetrated agaisnt law abiding citizens- and if htey are goign to use ‘tools’ liek htis voice annalysis software, then we’re all in real trouble in my opinion in the near future as voices can fluctuate greatly when under stress, and not even resemble a person’s every day voice, so therefore, ‘experts’ can claim whatever supports hteir case or bias-

just wanted to know what everyoen else thoguth of hte matter and how much of an impact it might have o nthe ‘trial’


13 posted on 04/14/2012 10:07:34 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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Thanks P{hilman- I searched several key words and didn’t find those- thansk for posting htem- I’ll check them out


14 posted on 04/14/2012 10:08:31 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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Yep. What it boils down to is that this “expert” testimony would have some value if there were not witnesses. And that is scary, considering that witness testimony makes it, A) irrelevant and B) dead wrong.


15 posted on 04/14/2012 10:10:12 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: CottShop

Too bad for these pseudo experts that a witness on the scene says it was Zimmerman.


16 posted on 04/14/2012 10:12:43 AM PDT by Red Steel
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To: SkyDancer

[[This whole thing on Zimmerman should be dropped.]]

you’re right, it ‘should be’ dropped, however, it’s never goign to be dropped by the black comunity, and we’re facign a trial that wil laffect all of us because we are seeign a law enforcement system buckle under to vigilanteeism instead of upholding hte actual law- and that will affect all of us as in hte future, if hte black comunity succeeds in railroading justice for hte sake of their racism-

[[Enough already.]]

Well, you may be tired of it, but as I said- this case will hasve an affect on how future cases are handled, and hopefully you or i won’t be the subject of an injust judicial system- Justice uis under attack, and burying our heads and wishign it will just go away isn’t helpign matters any


17 posted on 04/14/2012 10:13:43 AM PDT by CottShop (Scientific belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge)
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Supposedly Trayvon’s father say it isn’t Trayvon’s voice. I haven’t seen the article that quotes him but I’m sure some FReeper can find it and post it here.


18 posted on 04/14/2012 10:14:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: CottShop

Old WRONG news....it has been confirmed that it’s Jorge screening by witnesses who SAW and Heard him


19 posted on 04/14/2012 10:15:23 AM PDT by The Wizard (Madam President is my President now and in the future)
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To: CottShop

I would really love to make a comment but almost anything said will be taken out of context defending the castle doctrine.

Bottom line is this, your life will be in danger, you shall defend your life but be aware the laws and the politics after may take your life away. we can and shall place the blame in the highest position of America.

Let us learn a lesson in that, one man, the wrong man has stood by and encouraged this, refuses to defuse it. Until he is removed we face a situation of the most nefarious.

Makes me think of how wars were fought with sailing ships, they stopped the ship by shooting the sails out.

As far as how to look at all of this I say just walk away.


20 posted on 04/14/2012 10:17:07 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Liberals need not reply.)
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