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6 Stupid Gun Myths Everyone Believes (Thanks to Movies)
Cracked.com ^ | April 16, 2012 | Robert Evans

Posted on 04/16/2012 8:13:34 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows

Hollywood wants you dead. We said it. We don't know why. We don't know what they could possibly gain from it, but it's true all the same. Hollywood has been teaching you lessons about guns for decades and decades. Hollywood wants you to build your entire understanding of guns based on the gun tropes they parade in all of their movies. Hollywood wants these gun rules ingrained so deeply in you that you apply these lessons in real life. Even though doing so will kill you.

That's right. All of the lessons Hollywood has taught you about guns are wrong.

Dead wrong.


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Somehow, I suspect that my FRiends will have something to say on this topic.

1 posted on 04/16/2012 8:13:50 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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To: Slings and Arrows

Cracked.com is blocked here at my work so I will perhaps look from home tonight.


2 posted on 04/16/2012 8:17:09 AM PDT by citizen (Sherlock Holmes as Romney might now exclaim "The game's afoot!" Romney now needs his Dr. Watson V-ot)
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To: Slings and Arrows; MeekOneGOP; Conspiracy Guy; DocRock; King Prout; Darksheare; OSHA; ...
Have at it, folks.


3 posted on 04/16/2012 8:17:54 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Myths

1. Dropped guns go off (agree, except maybe rim fire)

2. Glocks don’t show up on security

3. Bullets spark

4. Shotguns have a massive room-killer pattern

5. Range effectiveness = real effectivness

6. Bullets knock people down


4 posted on 04/16/2012 8:25:49 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Good article.

One thing is certainly correct.... don't try to catch a falling firearm.

In the commercial kitchens, the saying is "A falling knife has no handle"; the same can apply to firearms.

/johnny

5 posted on 04/16/2012 8:29:55 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Jewbacca

Does this go along with not all autos explode when in an accident?


6 posted on 04/16/2012 8:33:25 AM PDT by donhunt (Certified and proud "Son of a Bitch".)
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To: Slings and Arrows
FBI now teaches shooting from the hip as rapidly as possible and, if possible, aiming FOR the hip of the bad guy.

Het the hip/pelvis and they will drop...allowing you to get to cover.

It can take a man several minutes to die from a couple of chest shots...and he can keep shooting while bleeding out.

7 posted on 04/16/2012 8:35:44 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Slings and Arrows
FBI now teaches shooting from the hip as rapidly as possible and, if possible, aiming FOR the hip of the bad guy.

Hit the hip/pelvis and they will drop...allowing you to get to cover.

It can take a man several minutes to die from a couple of chest shots...and he can keep shooting while bleeding out.

8 posted on 04/16/2012 8:36:13 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: Slings and Arrows
I've always like the way a revolver and a semi auto make the same saound when you cock them. . .
can I say that?
9 posted on 04/16/2012 8:41:07 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd
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To: Jewbacca
Dropped guns go off

Well if it is a Nambu Type 94 it would. But then again The Type 94 is usually considered to be one of the worst pistols ever to go into series production.

10 posted on 04/16/2012 8:41:40 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Stupid and condesending article. Note to Authors: Know your audience. The Brady Bunch isn’t visiting your website for the education.

That said, and on topic, the real world affect of bullets hitting a perp is the reason 12 police will send almost 100 rounds in a few short second at a life threatening perp. This article might bring to life why the public thinks its odd that so many shots are fired at a perp when lethal force is used or necessary. Many shots miss and those that do find their mark are not immediate “perp stoppers” in most cases, as Hollywood would have you believe.

In a firefight, it’s not uncommon for a participant to be wounded without knowing it immediately.

But most here already know all of this which makes mine a circular assertion.


11 posted on 04/16/2012 8:42:00 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (With regards to the GOP: I am prodisestablishmentarianistic!)
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To: Jewbacca

Mine is DAO and does not have an exposed hammer. Therefore it will NOT go off if dropped. It will only go off if the trigger is pulled and it has an 8 or 9 pound pull weight so you have to make an effort to pull it.


12 posted on 04/16/2012 8:58:38 AM PDT by DonkeyBonker
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To: Slings and Arrows

Well, I thought the article was pretty hilarious.


13 posted on 04/16/2012 9:00:53 AM PDT by andyk (Go Juan Pablo!)
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To: Slings and Arrows

What about the Hispanic irresistible urge/impulse to fire a handgun (usually a semi-auto) held sideways?


14 posted on 04/16/2012 9:01:26 AM PDT by Nathaniel (- A Man Without A Cross -)
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To: Slings and Arrows

They left out the shooting a bullet through an airplane fuselage will immediately depressurize the aircraft, sucking everybody out through the gaping hole it creates, falling to their deaths thousands of feet below.


15 posted on 04/16/2012 9:01:46 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Nathaniel
Actually, there was a story years ago about a noted American firearms trainer (I think it was Ayoob) who went to Germany to conduct some handgun training with one of the police departments there. When he arrived at the range, he saw a number of the trainees shooting their handguns sideways, gangsta' style. When he inquired what that was all about, he was told that this style of shooting was very popular in a number of American movies and they just assumed that there had to be some advantage to it.
I tried this one time at the range and I can honestly say that I have no idea where the bullet went. It didn't even hit the paper.
16 posted on 04/16/2012 9:13:48 AM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Jewbacca

My favorites:
“’The element reported as the single most important factor in the officer’s survival during an armed confrontation was cover.’ Hiding. Or, not just hiding, but actually having the proper training to recognize what exactly would provide the best form of cover.”

And:
“The impact of the bullet upon the body is no more than the recoil of the weapon. The ratio of bullet mass to target mass is too extreme.”

“Even in the end, it took multiple shots from a shotgun and six additional rounds from a handgun to end the fight ... some of the shotgun pellets hit the assailants in the head, but did not stop them immediately. The toxicology report showed no drugs or alcohol in either [assailant’s] system. Handguns (guns in general) are not the powerful one-shot stop instruments of immediate death portrayed by television, movies and the media.”

Assailants have been documented fighting on after being hit more than 100 times. At least one bank robber has received upwards of 60 bullet wounds from authorities and lived to tell about it. We mentioned that Roy P. Benavidez fought on for six hours despite receiving 37 serious bullet, shrapnel and bayonet wounds. But we didn’t mention that he also completed an 80-yard run after taking a rifle bullet to the knee. In the real world, the power of a bullet doesn’t have —— on the power of adrenaline and sheer cussedness.


17 posted on 04/16/2012 9:14:55 AM PDT by L,TOWM (Once you see that it is all Kabuki Theater, you are free to quit wasting your time on politics.)
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To: Nathaniel
What about the Hispanic irresistible urge/impulse to fire a handgun (usually a semi-auto) held sideways?

I'm pretty sure that this is the preferred technique of most Amish, as well.

18 posted on 04/16/2012 9:15:46 AM PDT by Lou L (The Senate without a filibuster is just a 100-member version of the House.)
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To: ├čudda├čudd

I like how pistols make a cocking sound when pulled from their holsters...


19 posted on 04/16/2012 9:16:00 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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More myths—

-Pulling back the slide on a semi-auto or auto way more times than necessary
-Blowing up a car with a few shots from a small arm
-Shooting off a lock on a door (possible, I guess, but probably not as easy as Hollywood makes it look)


20 posted on 04/16/2012 9:19:02 AM PDT by Arkansas Toothpick
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To: Slings and Arrows
So no matter what you do, that double-barreled shotgun is only hitting one dude at a time. Or, like, three bees, maybe.

Double Barreled shotguns are great....for the sporting clay range.

At close range, give me a 12 ga, .00 buck on full choke.

21 posted on 04/16/2012 9:26:19 AM PDT by Darren McCarty (The Republican Party is bigger than the presidency)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Here’s another one: being able to hear anything after multiple shots (without ear protection) in a room.


22 posted on 04/16/2012 9:27:07 AM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: Malone LaVeigh
"I tried this one time at the range and I can honestly say that I have no idea where the bullet went. It didn't even hit the paper. "

It does look a whole lot more like a gangsta movie move, and that's what counts in a gun fight, isn't it?

23 posted on 04/16/2012 9:28:05 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Can we afford as much government as welfare-addicted voters demand?)
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To: andyk

Me too, but we seem to be in the minority.


24 posted on 04/16/2012 9:28:42 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: GonzoGOP

you don’t have to drop it, just press the lever on the left side. bang


25 posted on 04/16/2012 9:29:32 AM PDT by piroque ("In times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act")
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To: Nathaniel; Malone LaVeigh

Probably cover those in the sequel.


26 posted on 04/16/2012 9:30:17 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Slings and Arrows; andyk

No, me too. And I loved the clips as well.


27 posted on 04/16/2012 9:33:15 AM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Jewbacca
6. Bullets knock people down

Not only that, they can knock people back through the air 10-20 ft ... through a window, even. According to Hollywood, anyway.

28 posted on 04/16/2012 9:40:15 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick
-Shooting off a lock on a door (possible, I guess, but probably not as easy as Hollywood makes it look)

That was probably the only "Gun Myth" that the Mythbusters confirmed. One round from a .357 and a deadbolt lock was sufficiently damaged that a kick popped it right out of the door. Shotguns worked even better for door breaching.

Note that it wasn't the lock that gave way, it was the wood where the lock was attached. Hitting the lock with a good sized hammer would probably have a similar effect.
29 posted on 04/16/2012 9:49:05 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

LOL!!! Who in their right mind would believe anything they see in a movie?! Its fiction! In some circles its even considered entertainment. Perhaps this is more a case of gullible movie goers.


30 posted on 04/16/2012 9:51:39 AM PDT by 556x45
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To: Jewbacca

Thanks for listing!

Another one: when a handgun is moved or pointed somewhere or at someone, it always makes a “click,” even if it was already loaded; especially if the moment is tense, then the handgun will mysteriously make a very loud click.


31 posted on 04/16/2012 9:59:26 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: MikeSteelBe
I like how pistols make a cocking sound when pulled from their holsters...

Or the sequence of clicking sounds as every safety is taken off. The situation isn't serious until you hear those sounds.

This replaces the mandatory manual cocking of a double-action revolver from the early days, when only DA revolvers were used. You could have the muzzle stuck in your ear, but only when you saw and heard it being cocked did you have to start worrying.

And nobody replicates the loud, distinctive sound the of "AK clack", the sound of an AK47 safety being deactivated. Assuming the shooter realizes in the first place that an AK47 even has a safety.

32 posted on 04/16/2012 10:14:01 AM PDT by 300winmag (Overkill Never Fails)
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To: Arkansas Toothpick

I remember seeing a spoof of the old commercial where they shoot a lock with a high powered rifle and then showed it still staying locked afterword.

The commercial started out the same, guy loading the gun, crosshairs on the lock, but when he fired the lock just disintegrated all over the place. The screen then showed “Sorry boys, this time it was a Weatherby” and the guy was holding a nice Mark V magnum with a smile.

I figured out how they did it, they hung the lock on a steel plate target instead of wood like the original commercial, the bullet splash is what tore the hell out of the lock.


33 posted on 04/16/2012 10:31:39 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly posting without reading the article carefully since 2004)
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To: Borges; DollyCali; Perdogg

ping


34 posted on 04/16/2012 10:59:09 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Slings and Arrows
They missed the easiest one, which is also a part of the Four Rules for Firearm Safety... and the one tiny way that Hollywood has been HELPFUL to Firearm Safety:

"Treat every gun as if it is loaded". According to Hollywood, every gun is always loaded, every gun fires between 23 and 700 bullets before needing to be re-loaded (if it is ever re-loaded at all).

35 posted on 04/16/2012 11:04:30 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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To: al_c
"Hollywood"

That myth about baddies getting thrown back twenty feet by a bullet might have originated with the Dirty Harry movies. Everyone remembers the final scene where Clint shoots Andy Robinson, and Robinson is knocked back twenty feet into a creek. Also in some John Wayne movies like El Dorado (?) from the sixties, George Plimpton was knocked back twenty feet by a blast from a shotgun. But ff you watch most cop tv shows and movies from before the seventies, most baddies when hit by a bullet simply drop where they are.

36 posted on 04/16/2012 11:20:12 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: TheOldLady; andyk

We few, we happy few, we band of brothers...


37 posted on 04/16/2012 11:27:45 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Jewbacca

#1
Guns NEVER RUN OUT OF BULLETS


38 posted on 04/16/2012 11:32:35 AM PDT by Outlaw Woman (The biggest Hate group in America is located in the White House, Congress & DOJ)
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To: Nathaniel

They copied that from the “Amish” in American gangbanger films. Until recently, most Latino thugs knew how to hold their firearms straight.


39 posted on 04/16/2012 11:36:22 AM PDT by Clemenza ("History, I believe, furnishes no example of a priest-ridden people maintaining a free civil governm)
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To: GonzoGOP
Before the seventies they dropped, but the never bled.

Today, they bleed a couple gallons.

40 posted on 04/16/2012 11:51:02 AM PDT by CharacterCounts (A vote for the lesser of two evils only insures the triumph of evil.)
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To: driftless2
That myth about baddies getting thrown back twenty feet by a bullet might have originated with the Dirty Harry movies.

The only real video of a guy being thrown back by a shot was from Gulf War I. An Iraqi popped out of a spider hole in front of an Abrams with an RPG. The gunner just hit the firing switch, forgetting in the excitement to switch to coax. Suffice to say the guys was thrown back, as well as up and to both sides.
41 posted on 04/16/2012 12:02:09 PM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: MikeSteelBe

I want one of those pump double barrel shotguns like
Moe on the Simpsons has!


42 posted on 04/16/2012 12:11:03 PM PDT by Clay Moore (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of a fool to the left. Ecclesiastes 10:2)
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To: Nathaniel
"What about the Hispanic irresistible urge/impulse to fire a handgun (usually a semi-auto) held sideways?"

Actually also done by white thugs many decades ago. The purpose was to avoid showing the profile of a revolver to bystanders in the city street semi-darkness. And only for point-shooting at close/point-blank range.


43 posted on 04/16/2012 12:14:54 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: Mariner

“FBI now teaches shooting from the hip as rapidly as possible and, if possible, aiming FOR the hip of the bad guy.”

Proof? Because that would be a stupid tactic...


44 posted on 04/16/2012 12:18:19 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (A conservative can't please a liberal unless he jumps in front of a bus or off of a cliff)
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To: Mariner
"FBI now teaches shooting from the hip as rapidly as possible and, if possible, aiming FOR the hip of the bad guy."

Which is what many of the old timers--of the few who engaged in such fights--did with their single action revolvers. Friends, don't discount a man with a sixshooter in an antiquated kind of rig.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1BwUJ4--Qw


45 posted on 04/16/2012 12:26:06 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
One thing is certainly correct.... don't try to catch a falling firearm.

I was carrying my Sig P220 in a "jackass" (tm) shoulder rig one day. I'd just put it on and apparently didn't get a positive snap on the thumb-release. The gun had one in the chamber with the hammer down. The gun slipped out of the holster and fell, hammer-side down on my foot. In doing so it -cocked itself-. Fortunately I must instinctively know better than to pick it up with a finger in the guard, but when I picked it up it took a second to then notice that it had become cocked. It was frightening... And served a valuable purpose of making me -very- sure to double check the thumb release security every single time.

46 posted on 04/16/2012 12:32:25 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Malone LaVeigh

lol


47 posted on 04/16/2012 12:43:13 PM PDT by DeoVindiceSicSemperTyrannis
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To: Slings and Arrows
Yeh - my first day on the range I was devastated to learn that you had to reload the things. I thought that's what the prop men were for. What, no prop men? Cheap range.

They still look at me strangely when I blow the smoke out of the barrel and twirl the piece a few times on my finger before holstering it. I guess you're not supposed to do that with a .45. At least not with a full mag, a round chambered, and the safety off. Who knew?

48 posted on 04/16/2012 12:49:50 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Slings and Arrows; andyk; ApplegateRanch
Indeed. Where's ApplegateRanch? Surely he would be with us on this.

We're brothers? Who knew? But it's cool.
49 posted on 04/16/2012 12:58:34 PM PDT by TheOldLady (FReepmail me to get ON or OFF the ZOT LIGHTNING ping list)
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To: Slings and Arrows

Don’t forget, hiding behind a car door protects you from AK’s and other military full auto weapons.

Mac 10’s never hit anyone, and a single round from a Sig always results in a kill.

Most important, if you over power the man with the gun and he drops the gun, always stop hitting him, and never pick up the gun before you run away.

no believing in guns will protect you from people that do.


50 posted on 04/16/2012 1:00:12 PM PDT by itsahoot (I will not vote for Romney period, and by election day you won't like him either.)
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