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Jury finds Apple's patents valid in Samsung trial
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Posted on 08/24/2012 4:10:12 PM PDT by Perdogg

A U.S. jury on Friday said Samsung Electronics Co Ltd has infringed some of Apple Inc's patents, and that all of those patents are valid.

The verdict in the high-stakes trial between the two tech giants was still being read in a federal courtroom in San Jose, California, and not all of the key legal findings had been announced.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


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To: af_vet_rr

“....Then again, if Xerox had been wise, they’d be almost as big as IBM, if not bigger, and Microsoft would probably just still be selling Office and maybe compilers.”
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You’ve nailed it. If Xerox had been wise, had MARKETING SAVVY and more VISION than they did, they actually might have become bigger than IBM, Microsoft and Apple are today COMBINED. It’s not enough to have an idea—you have to do something with it that people will demand.


61 posted on 08/24/2012 6:02:47 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: usconservative
"I'm going to Comp-USA first thing tomorrow morning and buying a Samsung Windows Tablet before they get pulled off the market because of this. "

I can't speak for their computers, but every Samsung product I have bought: HDTV, Home Theater, and cell phone, have all had problems within a year after purchase. Thankfully I had a 5 year extended warranty on the TV because there were continual problems with it. The TV died on me last fall. They told me the electrical system had gone on it and that it would cost too much to fix. Of course, the warranty had run out in the spring. I had a 3 year warranty on the home theater. I had bought it not long after the TV. That died a year before the TV, but at least I got the money back on it from the extended warranty. The cell phone died within the year I started using it, and because I had insurance on it, Verizon replaced it for free. I'll never buy another Samsung product as long as I live. I've had Apple computers for years, and have never had any of them die on me, or have to go into the shop. When I buy a new one, I pass the old one down to my youngest son.

62 posted on 08/24/2012 6:12:36 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Swordmaker

The Apple Haters on FR rally around, completely ignoring the vast store of American intellectual property rights which almost EVERY Asian country has trampled on. Where are FR’s Capitalists?

Wonder how Puget SS is doing with record highs in AAPL.


63 posted on 08/24/2012 6:22:20 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: aft_lizard
"...must be nice to be sitting on a 100 billion dollars of overcharging your customers."

While I have been viewing this thread with bemusement, watching fellow conservatives devolve into verbal civil war over whose phone is better, your comment above clearly violates a key capitalist principle.

In a free market, products that are freely purchased cannot be "overpriced." They simply command the price that the market will bear. There is no intrinsic worth, or lack thereof, to any product. Each is merely worth what someone is willing to pay for it. That is why the liberal argument that teachers should be paid more than athletes because of their presumed "worth" to society is so silly.

I assure you that the market will determine whether Apple products are overpriced, and so far the resounding answer is "no, they are not."

64 posted on 08/24/2012 6:23:19 PM PDT by noiseman (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: Perdogg
Look for another 10 years of litigation. Even if they lose every step of the way,a billion is nothing to a company like Samsung. In the mean time, they make the corners less round and life goes on.

I do not think anyone here wants to see Apple be the only smart phone manufacturer out there.

65 posted on 08/24/2012 6:28:10 PM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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To: af_vet_rr

You are correct about Xerox. They started leading from behind after the 914.


66 posted on 08/24/2012 6:28:47 PM PDT by Jane Long (Soli Deo Gloria!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

SmallTalk was 30 years ago. Many SmallTalk concepts ended up in many languages, including C#. Objective C isn’t SmallTalk, and your ignorance shows a lack of critical thinking.


67 posted on 08/24/2012 6:33:21 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: mass55th
I can't speak for their computers, but every Samsung product I have bought: HDTV, Home Theater, and cell phone, have all had problems within a year after purchase.

I have a Samsung 42" LCD TV that I purchased in November of 2003 (I remember buying it two days before Thanksgiving when my old 35" picture tube tv that weighted a million pounds finally gave out, and I needed a TV for family coming to visit over the holiday.)

That Samsung TV is still in the same corner of my family room, working just fine. ZERO problems.

Come to think of it, the Samsung HDD's in my computer's are all still working fine too. I've replaced a number of Seagate's and WD's over the years, these Samsung SpinPoint drives just keep on chugging.

68 posted on 08/24/2012 6:35:29 PM PDT by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
The Interface builder is buggy for IOS and NIBs?

You are woefully ignorant. Nibs not have been found in Xcode in 5 years. The InterfaceBuilder is top flight and as easy as pie.

With the explosion in iOS apps, only a complete noob would think that the average developer would put up with what you THINK you know about Apple development products. Again, in the past year, surveys have shown more developers are moving to Objective C and Java - overtaking C++ and C#.
69 posted on 08/24/2012 6:40:20 PM PDT by Tzfat
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To: Perdogg

Soon all the computers and all the computer tech in the world will be gay.


70 posted on 08/24/2012 6:42:42 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: VanDeKoik

“But the way the typical Apple elitist thinks ... “

It’s scary really. Obsession with toys is a rather disturbing trait :-). These are the same kind of people that make fools of their selves parading around San Francisco during certain pride weeks.

And, no, I am not implying all Apple users are like that ... just a certain, select, elite few here on FR and worldwide :-) ... I have too many friends that love Apple to make that a blanket statement :-).

Still, self identification through toys .... fascinating.

Next time I see our town alcoholic at the local bar banging away on his iPhone, I’ll remind myself how smart and successful he is to the elitist wing of the Apple movement :-). I mean, the elites always drive home the point that only the brilliant and successful use Apple, right?

Oh, VanDeKoik ... I see lots of your posts ... we must frequent the same threads ... keep up the good work :-)!


71 posted on 08/24/2012 6:42:42 PM PDT by edh (I need a better tagline)
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To: Perdogg
Soon all the computers and all the computer tech in the world will be gay.

Gay....

Not gay


72 posted on 08/24/2012 6:45:32 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: usconservative

Glad to hear you’ve had better luck than me.


73 posted on 08/24/2012 6:51:22 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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To: Perdogg

Well hello monopoly, bye bye competitive prices.


74 posted on 08/24/2012 6:55:35 PM PDT by DAC21
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

The Warmoth Pro necks are better than those on American Series Stratocasters? What about the shape of the neck? ‘Cuz it looks like Warmoth offers far more choices in neck shape than Fender does.


75 posted on 08/24/2012 7:05:40 PM PDT by wastedyears (The First Law of Heavy Metal: Not all metal is satanic.)
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To: VanDeKoik

“Oh noooooo it is not childish at all to have a view of those people similar to what I have to the average O-bot whose drooling worship of his power-grabbing ways mirrors Apples to a tee.”

Similar? It’s identical. iFans love Apple for the same reason liberals worship Obama: it takes all thought out of the equation.

Don’t think twice about supporting a president that makes a mockery of the legal system and tries to control everything people do; just pull the lever! Don’t think twice about supporting a company that makes a mockery of the legal system and tries to control everything users do; just pull out your credit card!

I just love how some people point out Apple’s profits as if it somehow exonerates the company from its outrageous behavior.


76 posted on 08/24/2012 7:05:53 PM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: Cato in PA

Ever heard of intellectual property? Go to Asia where you can buy a DVD of a new US movie for a few bucks. Did they pay for property right? No way!

Asian countries detest US property rights laws. Capitalism?

Welcome to Liberalism.

Bet you’re a Dell Dude.


77 posted on 08/24/2012 7:10:31 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: Perdogg

Don’t know details, but I’ve traveled to Korea many times during the 80’s. Back then it was known as “the Land of the Almost Right.” They copied anything successful, always with a slight flaw, but over the years Ive noticed the flaws are disappearing. This doesn’t surprise me knowing their culture. Highly aggressive and competitive country, compared with their fellow Koreans in the North and their other competitor, Japan. I would not be surprised if they overtake Japan. This country does understand socialism leading to communism more than any other.


78 posted on 08/24/2012 7:11:49 PM PDT by Alissa
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To: wastedyears

“Cuz it looks like Warmoth offers far more choices in neck shape than Fender does.”

Yes, they do. I had ordered a Baritone conversion neck from them. Just the “Plain Jane”$180 model. They cashed my check, and lost the order. When I called them, they were very shocked. Two days later, I received a conversion neck in the mail. A $400+ dollar neck, curly maple, with a million Birdseyes! Great company! On this thread I’m Hu. Just look at the neck they sent me!
http://www.axetalk.com/forum/bass-instincts/1284-baritones.html


79 posted on 08/24/2012 7:14:50 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie
"...Apple has only Cult Status and Logistics and some Engineering on it’s side..."

ROTFLMAO!

REG:"...All right... all right... but apart from better sanitation and medicine and education and irrigation and public health and roads and a freshwater system and baths and public order... what have the Romans done for us?"

80 posted on 08/24/2012 7:15:36 PM PDT by rlmorel ("Rub some bacon on it.")
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