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(Found!) These 230-Million-Year-Old Bugs Preserved In Amber Are The Oldest Yet ...
IO9 ^ | Aug 28, 2012 | George Dvorsky

Posted on 08/28/2012 2:45:47 PM PDT by DogByte6RER

These 230-million-year-old bugs preserved in amber are the oldest yet

Bugs in Amber from Triassic Era, Bugs in Amber from Triassic Era

An international team of scientists working in Italy have found the oldest samples of arthropods preserved in amber — a finding that is 100 million years older than previous fossilized samples. The insects, a fly and two mites, are the first ever to be discovered from the Triassic era. The group's findings will help biologists gain a better evolutionary understanding of these organisms and the time periods within which they developed. Amber droplets can be a goldmine for paleontologists. Even a millimeter sized droplet can contain extremely well preserved specimens of organisms that lived eons ago — specimens that can be observed with microscopic fidelity. Globules of fossilized resin can range in age from the Carboniferous era (about 340 million years ago) to about 40,000 years ago, and were produced by plants like tree ferns, flowering trees, and conifers.

The amber droplets, which are only 2-6 millimeters long, were discovered buried in the Dolomite Alps of northeastern Italy. Paleontologists working there were able to uncover about 70,000 droplets — all of which were screened for signs of preserved life.

Paleontologists suspect that arthropods, a class of organism that includes insects, arachnids, and crustaceans, have been around for at least 400 million years.

Two of the arthropods are a new species of mites — members of an extremely specialized group that fed on plants and sometimes formed an abnormal growth called "galls." Paleontologists were surprised to see how similar these mites were to ones still alive today. It's thought that the mites fed on the leaves of coniferous trees that eventually preserved them. What this indicates to the scientists is that mites are a highly adaptable species, able to shift their feeding habits; today, only 3% of mites feed on conifers — yet they've remained largely unchanged over the course of 230 million years.

The fly could not be identified, outside of its antennae, on account of poor preservation in the amber. But what's clear is that flies existed at the time of the Triassic — offering paleontologists hope that they'll eventually be able to find a better preserved specimen.

Bugs in Amber from Triassic Era, Bugs in Amber from Triassic Era

You can read the entire study in PNAS.

Images: University of Göttingen/A. Schmidt.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bugs; fossils; paleontology; prehistoricanimals; triassicera; triassicperiod
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Hmmmmmm ... this rare bugs in amber discovery sounds vaguely familiar. I wonder where it will lead?

1 posted on 08/28/2012 2:45:57 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
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For reference ...

Arthropods in amber from the Triassic Period

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2012/08/21/1208464109.abstract


2 posted on 08/28/2012 2:47:51 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

“Life finds a way.”


3 posted on 08/28/2012 2:47:58 PM PDT by dfwgator
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4 posted on 08/28/2012 2:48:53 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

“Yeah, let’s bring back dinosaurs, what could possibly go wrong?”


5 posted on 08/28/2012 2:51:42 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DogByte6RER

I remember when I saw it in the theater, everybody cheered when the lawyer was eaten while sitting on the toilet.


6 posted on 08/28/2012 2:53:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: DogByte6RER
favorite scene?

the lawyer gets it


7 posted on 08/28/2012 2:53:58 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: dfwgator

yup (#7)


8 posted on 08/28/2012 2:55:15 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero

Rex said he tasted like $hit.


9 posted on 08/28/2012 2:58:28 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

I’m not saying there isn’t evidence of 100+ million yr old earth, I’m just not buying this is fact, because well, it’s not.


10 posted on 08/28/2012 3:01:27 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Freedom is not free.)
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To: DogByte6RER

A Fly and Two Mites? I saw them in concert a long time ago, but I’m not that old.


11 posted on 08/28/2012 3:07:49 PM PDT by USMCPOP (Father of LCpl. Karl Linn, KIA 1/26/2005 Al Haqlaniyah, Iraq)
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To: dfwgator

When we find “life” on Mars this kind of thing is what it will be.

Only no amber, just fossils in rocks.


12 posted on 08/28/2012 3:08:56 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
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To: Revolting cat!
Those pieces of amber could have been polished up nicely if the bugs hadn't gotten into the sap and ruined them.


13 posted on 08/28/2012 3:16:49 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Only Obama put a dog on the roof of his mouth. Dogs are friends, not food.)
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To: a fool in paradise
Amber Sym - Green Bikini Pictures, Images and Photos This Amber has been checked and she is free of flies and mites.
14 posted on 08/28/2012 3:22:55 PM PDT by DogByte6RER ("Loose lips sink ships")
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To: DogByte6RER

That vid about sums up Spielbergs entire film career: “patronize patronize patronize”. Wow Steve, thank you for putting people in that movie that not only constantly scream, but scream completely over the top, otherwise I would have never guessed that dinosaurs could be scary and dangerous.


15 posted on 08/28/2012 3:30:26 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: sirchtruth

Eggs-act-leeee...


16 posted on 08/28/2012 3:34:05 PM PDT by I_Publius
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To: dfwgator

I’m a lawyer and even I cheered that one. hehehehe


17 posted on 08/28/2012 3:34:05 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: DogByte6RER

18 posted on 08/28/2012 3:44:01 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Vaquero

Oh CRAP


19 posted on 08/28/2012 3:45:15 PM PDT by Godzilla (3/7/77)
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To: sirchtruth

For all we know Adam and Eve resided as spiritual beings in the Garden for billions of years. Once cast out, their days were numbered and they died at an age from the day they were cast out, not from the day they were created.

The bible says nothing about how old the Earth is. General Relativity posits that time slows down to zero as a body approaches the speed of light. One day to God can for all we know be a trillion years.

If God is as big as the entire universe, how long does it take God to cross the universe? Answer: Zero time.

Reminds me of God’s concept of size and time.

“God, how much is a million dollars to you?
GOD: It is but a penny.

“God, how long is a million years to you?”
GOD: It is but a second.

“God, could you please give me a penny?”
GOD: Sure, just a second.


20 posted on 08/28/2012 3:52:08 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: DogByte6RER
Not changing ~ 240 million years ~ 1/4 billion years ~ not changing.

Yet they adapt!

Well so much for the successful eaters theory of evolution.

21 posted on 08/28/2012 4:07:21 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Hostage

Much ‘wisdom’ contained in those three paragraphs.


22 posted on 08/28/2012 4:33:40 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: muawiyah
Yet they adapt!

Adaptation is the means of survival of all forms of life. The 'blueprints' for the 'forms' have always been there. We are spiritual beings descended into physical form. Our 'form' is 'mammal'. How successful that form will be remains in question.

23 posted on 08/28/2012 4:41:39 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: DogByte6RER
What? No Helen Thomas pictures yet?

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24 posted on 08/28/2012 4:44:33 PM PDT by Elle Bee
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To: DogByte6RER

Didn’t know that Helen Thomas was THAT OLD!


25 posted on 08/28/2012 4:45:51 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: DogByte6RER

Pretty cool ATV.


26 posted on 08/28/2012 4:51:46 PM PDT by 353FMG (The US Constitution is only as good as those who enforce it.)
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To: muawiyah

The horsetail weed you can never quite manage to get out of your garden goes back some 350 mya. Similarly long petigrees can be found in horseshoe crabs and hagfish. But the hagfish may be related to all vertebrates as the earliest with its cartilage backbone. All kinds of insects are little changed for hundreds of millions of years. You just can’t improve on perfection, I guess.


27 posted on 08/28/2012 5:02:55 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: DogByte6RER

I wonder what the “Earth is only 6,000 years old” lunatics who hang out at FR will say about this......


28 posted on 08/28/2012 7:39:15 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimeticare Iddio!!!!!!)
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To: Hostage

I’ve used that joke many times.


29 posted on 08/28/2012 7:40:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

Yeah, that’s what convinced me it was pure Hollywood.

If a real T-Rex had eaten a LAWYER he’s have spit him right back out again.


30 posted on 08/28/2012 7:42:05 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimeticare Iddio!!!!!!)
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To: Hostage

I never understood why Evolution and Christianity had to be considered mutually exclusive.

If we are to assume that Evolution is indeed true, the next question would be, So who created Evolution?


31 posted on 08/28/2012 7:43:07 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Or in the case of sharks, they would have left the lawyer alone, due to Professional Courtesy.


32 posted on 08/28/2012 7:44:08 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Faye Wray was given her iconic role in "King Kong" precisely because she had the loudest and most piercing screams of all those who auditioned.


33 posted on 08/28/2012 7:49:40 PM PDT by Emperor Palpatine (Tosca, mi fai dimeticare Iddio!!!!!!)
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To: Emperor Palpatine
I wonder what the “Earth is only 6,000 years old” lunatics who hang out at FR will say about this......

They are no more lunatic than the creators of that mythological evolution tail/tale.

Oh just so you know before you akin off, I have NO doubt this earth is very very very old... How old, nobody can state with a certainty. So whom ever planted that 230-Million date on these bugs, is only making an educated guess.

Genesis 1:2 says this earth became null and void and there was one big flood. That heaven/earth age that existed when these bugs did was destroyed. There is NO date given in the whole of the Bible that says when God created the heavens and the earth and how long it took the devil to rebel.

It is amusing in part that The Creator left all manner of evidence of that 'first' heaven/earth age for the modern apes to discover... Chew on that.

34 posted on 08/28/2012 7:49:58 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Have you donated to the 'resurrection of Akin' yet?)
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To: dfwgator

Evolution and Natural Selection/Survival of the Fittest are not the same. Evolution has more to with cross species conception and mutation whereas Natural Selection has to do with one species adapting itself to its environment and breeding advantages through survival of the sittest.

Natural selection can be proven in the lab using small cellular organisms.

Evolution is not provable in the lab and takes on a guessing game system which itself evolves into a quasi-religion (Man descended from Apes or both had a common ancestor).

Natural Selection is scientific, Evolution is astrological.

A lot of evolution couches itself in genetic drift and mutation. But this is a guessing game that brings about ‘models’ and rules, that become doctrine and from doctrine comes belief, hence a religion of anti-God religion posing itself as science but actually quasi-science.

The behavior of evolutionists is very similar to the global warming cult. The evolutionists establish a central dogma and post new hypotheses for which they go about gathering information and accepting/rejecting data based on how the data conform with the central dogma. This approach looks scientific in appearance but really it is political and more astrological.

Astrology as a system of reasoning can never be wrong; there is always an explanation in its procedures.

Whereas the scientific method can be wrong allowing scientists to ‘experiment’ and reproduce findings.

Evolution falls in with Astrology; Natural Selection falls in with Scientific Method.

Evolution is insecure, and will co-opt Natural Selection as its own, to preserve an aura of credibility.

But a lot of Evolution is fraudulent just as Astrology is fraudulent (and there is definitive proof that Astrology is fraudulent)

No one is going to stop humans from practicing or entertaining themselves with Astrology because it is an organizer of sorts for some human minds to manage information, although it is a system of false beliefs.

All models are false, some are useful. This is a well-known saying in scientific communities.

Likewise no one is going to stop evolutionists from ‘believing’ in Evolution, nor prevent evolutionists from claiming Natural Selection (which is wrongly said that Evolution encompasses) proves its scientific beliefs are valid.


35 posted on 08/28/2012 9:50:24 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: DogByte6RER

Had an old biology teacher, if you used the word *bug* in class, your life was in definite peril.


36 posted on 08/28/2012 9:58:16 PM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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To: Emperor Palpatine

Someone should edit that part of the movie and show a guy holding up a newspaper that says “Obama wins a 2nd term” then cut to Fay Wray screaming.


37 posted on 08/29/2012 8:36:38 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Someday our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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