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Obama has not offered state funeral for Neil Armstrong because of DNC Convention
8/29/12 | Storm-12

Posted on 08/28/2012 11:19:16 PM PDT by Storm-12

Edited on 08/28/2012 11:23:47 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Immediately, Monday Morning, Obama was lobbied by Ohio Congressman Bill Johnson to offer a State Funeral to Neil Armstrong's family:

http://www.theweek.co.uk/world-news/48679/obama-urged-give-neil-armstrong-state-funeral

The family had already planned a private funeral for this Friday.

So the question is - was the offer of a state funeral ever made? If it was to occur, it would happen immediately following the Friday funeral, just as Reagan's state funeral began two days after his private funeral in California. Once the state funeral commences, it is at least a three-day affair (Reagan's was five) that includes more than 30 hours of lying in state and a ceremony at the national cathedral.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_and_state_funeral_of_Ronald_Reagan

Here's the problem: The Armstrong family funeral is August 31. The DNC Convention begins September 3.

So the question nobody in the media seems to be asking is DID THE WHITE HOUSE OFFICIALLY OFFER THE FAMILY OF NEIL ARMSTRONG A STATE FUNERAL?

The answer is: probably not - too inconvenient.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: 2012dncconvention; armstrong; bho2012; dnc; heroes; neilarmstrong

1 posted on 08/28/2012 11:19:27 PM PDT by Storm-12
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To: Storm-12

For Zer0 to honor Neil Armstrong in a state memorial would go against Zer0’s refusal to recognize individual effort and America’s exceptionalism.


2 posted on 08/28/2012 11:35:39 PM PDT by jonrick46 (Countdown to 11-06-2012)
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To: jonrick46
"...Zer0’s refusal to recognize individual effort and America’s exceptionalism."

You nailed it. I doubt it will be offered.

3 posted on 08/29/2012 12:18:29 AM PDT by OldEagle
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To: Storm-12
The answer is: probably not - too inconvenient.

They have time, so I doubt it's due to inconvenience. Death is never convenient - so they can't claim that. Obama and an American hero is like vinegar and oil.

4 posted on 08/29/2012 12:35:28 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: Storm-12

Why should he? Armstrong was a great American, a real hero who left a great legacy. But he didn’t build that.


5 posted on 08/29/2012 12:47:58 AM PDT by LibWhacker (block)
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To: Storm-12
0bama and co would probably prefer that people forget that men like Neil Armstrong ever existed. His Norman Rockwell childhood and his life of service are anathema to the Progressive religion.


6 posted on 08/29/2012 1:06:17 AM PDT by jmcenanly ("The more corrupt the state, the more laws." Tacitus, Publius Cornelius)
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To: Storm-12
Actually, I will be happy if there is no state funeral. Obama would just turn it into a political event. And Obama’s hypocrisy of honoring the first man to walk on the moon after he personally trashed the program which made that walk possible would be nauseating.

No, let Neil Armstrong rest in peace.

7 posted on 08/29/2012 1:09:03 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

Obama would miss out on a terrific opportunity to talk about himself and put up self-aggrandizing photographs of him staring at the moon.


8 posted on 08/29/2012 1:32:07 AM PDT by PittsburghAfterDark
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To: Storm-12
Obama can't have anyone stealing his thunder. Not Neil Armstrong, not Tiger Woods, not Seal Team 6...because stealing is his job.
9 posted on 08/29/2012 2:14:39 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: Storm-12

neil armstrong also was not black.


10 posted on 08/29/2012 2:58:07 AM PDT by television is just wrong
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To: Storm-12

Come on people. Neil would not have wanted a state funeral. He was a humble man. The last thing he would have wanted was a big dog and pony show funeral (was that a pun?).


11 posted on 08/29/2012 4:09:37 AM PDT by RadiationRomeo (Step into my mind and glimpse the madness that is me)
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To: RadiationRomeo
Come on people. Neil would not have wanted a state funeral. He was a humble man. The last thing he would have wanted was a big dog and pony show funeral (was that a pun?).

I agree. But the issue here to me is that Obama should have offered a state funeral, allowing Armstrong's family to politely decline.
12 posted on 08/29/2012 4:19:32 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: RadiationRomeo

I agree. Besides, if Obama had offered him a state funeral, he’d be ripped for injecting himself into a private matter. I don’t like Obama at all, but let’s be fair.

Neil Armstrong, RIP.


13 posted on 08/29/2012 4:29:33 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: jmcenanly

Wasn’t the earth’s phase waxing gibbous on July 20, 1969?


14 posted on 08/29/2012 4:31:23 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Storm-12

Or maybe the family didn’t want one. Ever think of that? Armstrong is a man who spent his post-Apollo 11 life avoiding the limelight. I have no idea if Obama offered or not, but the idea that Armstrong or his family would want a national circus of a funeral is ridiculous. And I really think that all these people trying to make a political issue out of it is an insult to the memory of a brave man.


15 posted on 08/29/2012 4:33:24 AM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: Delhi Rebels

Neil Armstrong was a humble man of faith. A faithful Christian who shared Holy Communion on the moon. God’s gain is our loss. RIP


16 posted on 08/29/2012 5:21:07 AM PDT by Tugo (Nehemiah 9:5)
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To: Storm-12

Does anyone know if they’re even dipping the flags for Armstrong? Or have they denied him even that?


17 posted on 08/29/2012 5:22:24 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are now officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet)
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To: fatnotlazy

From what I know about the man, his family would certainly turn it down anyway, because it would definitely go against his character. He was from an era when people people actually HAD some.


18 posted on 08/29/2012 5:26:19 AM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: Storm-12
Obama is not offering a state-funeral for Armstrong for the same reason he dismantled NASA... he hates White boys and their achievements.

No more complicated than that.

19 posted on 08/29/2012 5:30:08 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Government is the religion of the sociopath.)
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To: tanknetter

How do we know whether he did or did not offer?


20 posted on 08/29/2012 5:39:44 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: Old Sarge

I read somewhere that on Monday, Obama issued the order that for one day only, and just during daylight hours, on the day of Armstrong’s funeral, flags are to be flown at half staff. The governor of his home state of Ohio (which Obama can’t spell) ordered flags flown at half staff through the end of this month.


21 posted on 08/29/2012 6:23:53 AM PDT by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: Storm-12

State funerals are for Presidents not astronauts.


22 posted on 08/29/2012 10:11:19 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Storm-12

State funerals are for Presidents not astronauts.


23 posted on 08/29/2012 10:11:28 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

United States
Ronald Reagan, 40th President of the United States, lying in state in the United States Capitol Rotunda as spectators and mourners file past his flag draped casket on June 10, 2004.Main article: State funerals in the United States
In the United States, state funerals are held in the nation’s capital, Washington, D.C., and involve military spectacle, ceremonial pomp, and religious observance. As the highest possible honor bestowed upon a person posthumously, state funerals are an entitlement offered to a sitting or ex-President of the United States, a President-elect, as well as other people designated by the President.[12][13] Administered by the Military District of Washington (MDW), state funerals are greatly influenced by protocol, steeped in tradition, and rich in history. However, the overall planning as well as the decision to hold a state funeral, is largely determined by the President before his death and the First Family.[14]

State funerals have been held in Washington D.C. for William Henry Harrison (1841),[15] Zachary Taylor (1850),[15] Abraham Lincoln (1865),[16] Thaddeus Stevens (1868),[17] James A. Garfield (1881),[15] William McKinley (1901),[15] Warren Harding (1920),[15] the Unknown Soldier of World War I (1921),[18] William Howard Taft (1930),[19] John J. Pershing (1948),[20] the Unknown Soldiers of World War II and the Korean War (1958),[21] John F. Kennedy (1963),[22] Douglas MacArthur (1964),[23] Herbert Hoover (1964),[24] Dwight D. Eisenhower (1969),[25] Lyndon B. Johnson (1973),[26] Ronald Reagan (2004),[27] and Gerald Ford (2006-2007).[28]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_funeral#United_States


24 posted on 08/29/2012 10:25:06 AM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Delhi Rebels

The issue is whether the family was offered - not speculating what they want, but actually finding out. In order to offer, Obama has to risk a big sideshow going into the DNC. I don’t think he’ll risk it.


25 posted on 08/29/2012 12:08:06 PM PDT by Storm-12
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