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"The Innocence of Muslims" Produced by a Muslim?
FR Vanity | 091312 | golux

Posted on 09/13/2012 12:51:41 PM PDT by golux

Please forgive me if all of this sounds ridiculous... But I have spent a little time viewing clips from this "Innocence of Muslims" film. It is so astonishingly poorly acted and produced that I cannot even compare it to the worst student movies I have ever seen.... And I have produced, directed, and SEEN a lot of junk in formats from Super8 to 35 and up.
The piece is almost unbelievably bad. Unbelievably - as in - nothing I have ever seen from the West is this bad, this poorly edited, acted, written, lit, greenscreened. The piece is a parody of itself!
So - All I am left with is some kind of comparison, and, the only comparison I can draw is with the sort of stuff I have seen produced by radical Mohammedans themselves via Palestinian Media Watch, CAMERA, etc. You know, the scenes where the pink Jihad bunny tells the kids to kill lots of Jews before Ramadan so they can get lots of chocolates. That stuff is LAUGHABLY poorly done, and I hate to say it but... It looks just like this! Thoughts?


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To: golux
Could well be, nobody knows at the moment. It was reported to have been produced by an Egyptian, a Mr. Nakoula, who claims to be a Coptic Christian. But he also may be the "Israeli Jew" director of the film, "Bacile" since the director's name just happens to be one of the aliases used by the producer.

"Nakoula has also reportedly used several aliases, including Nicola Bacily and Erwin Salameh."

"One of the actresses who says she was tricked into being in the film says Bacile told her on set that he was Egyptian, and that he spoke Arabic to other men present." Source

21 posted on 09/13/2012 1:25:52 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: Pollster1
My guess: the film was created as a provocation by the Muslim Brotherhood.

The ethnicity of the cast makes that highly unlikely. You can watch the trailer here.

Reportedly, it cost $5m (supposedly contributed by 100 unidentified Jewish donors), took three months to make and used 60 actors and 45 crew. 5e6/3/(60+45) = $15.9K/mo per staff member. So, either the scenery was really expensive (not) or the actors were waaay overpaid.

I've seen better acting in many a school play.

22 posted on 09/13/2012 1:26:56 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: golux

I M Bacile


23 posted on 09/13/2012 1:33:19 PM PDT by Cyman
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To: txrefugee

Isn’t it curious/spurious that the author of the evil movie is identified as Christian Copt who the State Dept. and our lamestream press have never helped or to my knowledge mentioned.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/266793/persecution-egypt-s-coptic-christians-continues-nina-shea#


24 posted on 09/13/2012 1:39:06 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: txrefugee

Isn’t it curious/spurious that the author of the evil movie is identified as Christian Copt who the State Dept. and our lamestream press have never helped or to my knowledge mentioned.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/266793/persecution-egypt-s-coptic-christians-continues-nina-shea#


25 posted on 09/13/2012 1:39:17 PM PDT by victim soul
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To: allmendream

What Jew would produce such a miserable piece of incendiary crap and attribute it to “100 Jewish donors” for some astronomical sum? It makes no sense. And what Copt would produce such a piece and want to nail it on a Jewish producer? That too makes no sense. One more thing: why are there Koranic FACTS mixed with so many FALSEHOODS? I can assure you that no producer who was serious about his piece would allow such a hodgepodge... Unless it was intended from the beginning that the piece be DERIDED.


26 posted on 09/13/2012 1:41:45 PM PDT by golux
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To: golux
Nobody is saying the guy is reasonable, a good producer, or a truth teller.

But the evidence suggests that he is a Coptic Christian who was pretending to be Jewish. So far there is no evidence that he is a Muslim pretending to be a Coptic Christian pretending to be Jewish.

No doubt he wanted to deflect any blame from his own very vulnerable community to America and Israel.

From what I have heard this is a piece of garbage ‘Mohammad porn’.

I don't think anyone serious about his “piece” (of feces) would take it to Terry Jones the publicity whore Koran burner either.

What some nutjob criminal did is not important. What the purpose behind taking this poorly done and destined for obscurity CRAP and making it FAMOUS throughout Egypt, Libya and Yemen IS important.

Egypt wants us to make (unconstitutional) laws against defaming Islam and/or Mohammad.

I want them to enforce laws already in Egypt against defaming Islam and/or Mohammad and apply them to their already subservient and living in fear press to prevent the obscure insult from receiving worldwide attention.

If some nutball says some graphic and inflammatory things about you; and I make it world famous - do you blame the nutball who said it - or me for making sure EVERYBODY knew every salacious and graphic detail of what the nutball said?

27 posted on 09/13/2012 1:50:27 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

Why was it being promoted in the Middle-East. Anyone wonder whether it was Dems who used the same media distribution newtork as was used to foment “Arab Spring” to cause the uproar? Does it not provide diversion from the economy for Pres. Obama to take cover under?


28 posted on 09/13/2012 2:02:11 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: golux

Thanks but I didn’t need to see the video after reading the account below a couple of days ago.

Someone mentioned Idiocracy on another thread regarding our muslim infested government. The northern territories of Mali are really there. Or making an effort, in some cases, to pull back from there.

On the other hand, making an effort to pull back from Idiocracy may offend the serious muslims which would give them an excuse to kill the not so serious muslims after they gain control of moderate Mali.

From http://www.ohio.com/news/world/radical-islamists-struggle-to-run-northern-mali-1.331229

DAKAR, SENEGAL: The radical Islamists who control northern Mali appear incapable of managing basic services — including electricity, water and schools — and in some cases are asking for the return of state functionaries to run them, according to a delegation that went to the region for talks recently...

...”They asked for the state to resume its functions, because it’s too complicated for them to manage,” said Daouda Maiga, who used to run a state development program in Kidal, a region of nearly 70,000 people before the Islamist takeover emptied it. “They are not used to running things.”...


29 posted on 09/13/2012 2:12:40 PM PDT by MurrietaMadman
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To: golux

i wish this movie, had gotten even 1/10th the publicity...
http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AuPC6.tmIlsJ3NBQnyJvPwabvZx4?p=stoning+of+soraya&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701
Search resultsThe Stoning of Soraya M. (2008) - IMDb
Director: Cyrus Nowrasteh. Actors: Shohreh Aghdashloo: Zahra · Mozhan Marnò: Soraya M. · Jim Caviezel: Freidoune Sahebjam · Navid Negahban: Ali · Ali Pourtash ...
www.imdb.com/title/tt1277737

www.thestoning.com


30 posted on 09/13/2012 2:13:43 PM PDT by Elendur (It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: golux
Doesn't matter if a muslim DID make it. Recall that 3 of the so called "12 cartoons" were not even from the contest and that one of the supposed "insults to Islam" was a photo from a hog calling contest:

The Imam ginned up a controversy to cover their violent rampage. Just as the OWS Communists do. Communists have rioted in America in the 21st century in the name of "smashing Fascism" as well.

'Always good to have some kind of cover story before you cause an internationale incident.'

31 posted on 09/13/2012 2:16:59 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: golux

Hmm.

Ask the Bahais, Zoroastrians, Copts, Chaldean Christians, Israelis, Hindus, Buddhists, Maronite Christians, Phillipino Christians and African Animists how “innocent” they are. You might also want to check in with a few emanciated Muslim women who have managed to escape to the west and are living in safety and anonymity.


32 posted on 09/13/2012 2:17:39 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.yoututbe.com/watch_popup?v=tCAffMSWSzY#t=28)
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To: a fool in paradise

I wonder if I dragged a pdf file of the Koran into my Recycle Bin, if I could initiate a riot?


33 posted on 09/13/2012 2:18:08 PM PDT by dfwgator (I'm voting for Ryan and that other guy.)
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To: golux

ISLAM MUST DIE~!


34 posted on 09/13/2012 2:18:55 PM PDT by MaxMax
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To: dfwgator

The intolerant theocratic government of Saudi Arabia seizes PRIVATELY OWNED Bibles and other non-Islamic religious texts and burns them every year. No condemnation from the rest of the world.

And muslims claim when talking to the kufir that all religions deserve respect of their beliefs and texts. Ha.


35 posted on 09/13/2012 2:37:08 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: a fool in paradise

This whole thing is very confusing. Some are saying that a “movie” is the cause of all the rukus. Others say it was caused by the video that the preacher made of hanging Mohammed. Which is it? A movie or a video? Are they the same? Hillary said “video”. Others are saying “movie”. What is really going on? I’m soooooo confused.


36 posted on 09/13/2012 2:52:36 PM PDT by WVNan
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To: WVNan
Recall that in the aftermath of the 9-11 attacks, we were told that the night before the atacks Mohammed Atta played a pinball machine called Golden Tee.


37 posted on 09/13/2012 3:04:11 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Obama likes to claim credit for getting Osama. Why hasn't he tried Khalid Sheikh Mohammed yet?)
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To: cynwoody
"My guess: the film was created as a provocation by the Muslim Brotherhood." The ethnicity of the cast makes that highly unlikely. You can watch the trailer here.

I disagree. It is easy to hire actors with no talent to read a script and act in front of a green screen (which is what they appear to have used). The Brotherhood, if setting up a provocation, would be likely to prefer actors who would be particularly provocative. After you have the film, you can edit it together to tell a different story from the one the actors think they were telling. Even using the name "Mohammed" would not be much of a clue because it's such a common name.

38 posted on 09/13/2012 3:32:06 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Pollster1
You might find interesting this amazing interview with one of the cast members, Cindy Lee Garcia. She doesn't look like anybody the Muslim Brotherhood would come up with (other than at gunpoint):

Nor do the other cast members, by and large. This was a southern California production, made by Nakoula Basseley Nakoula, an Egyptian Copt with a checkered past, who passed himself off as Sam Bacile, an Israeli Jew. It's all coming out ... more here.

39 posted on 09/13/2012 4:08:05 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Monterrosa-24
“...retaliation for Muslims being thrown out of Spain in 1532...”

Granada fell in 1492 just before Columbus sailed.

Granada did indeed fall in 1492. Part of its surrender was a peace treaty agreeing that the Muslims remaining would have freedom of religion. The Catholic Monarchs broke the treaty and in 1502 gave all Muslims the option of conversion or expulsion.

Most converted, with varying degrees of sincerity, as did the Jews who were given the same options.

The Moriscos, as the now purportedly Catholic Muslims were called, were still highly unpopular with most Spaniards, who were skeptical of the sincerity of the Christianity, often with reason.

Spain put increasing pressure on the Moriscos, who launched several revolts in reply. In 1609 Spain expelled all the Moriscos, mostly to North Africa, where (somewhat ironically) many of them werek killed for being Christians.

40 posted on 09/14/2012 2:03:53 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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