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The “Perfect Day” by LTC Dave Grossman, USA, ret.
The Rhino Den ^ | September 26, 2012 | Lt.Col. Dave Grossman, USA, ret.

Posted on 09/27/2012 8:52:38 AM PDT by Little Ray

The “Perfect Day” and our terrorist opponents’ possible plans for future attacks

I have been told (by those conducting interviews with captured enemy combatants) that when we ask them “What is coming next?” they sometimes refer to the “Perfect Day.” You cannot understand what they are talking about if you do not understand the historical reference.

The Sepoy Mutiny in India, in 1857, is an example of a Perfect Day. This was a spontaneous uprising by Muslims (and Hindus), with everyone giving the British their “best shot.” Nannies killed the kids, cooks poisoned the food, and shop owners murdered the British ladies as they came into the shop. And soldiers (sometimes complete units) killed their British officers and then used their weapons to attack the British.

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TOPICS: History; Military/Veterans; Religion; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; cw2; grossman; islam; jihad; muslim; perfectday; sepoymutiny; sharia; sjs; suddenjihadsyndrome; wot
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To: stuartcr

And you think that given a choice between the life of one of yours or your life and not killing a 6 or 7 year old with a gun or a bomb is not a good idea?

If I’m around I’ll be sure to make mention of your mercy on the headstone when the remains of you or your children are buried.

Some people are just purely amazing. I think a great idea though is to never have anyone with that thought process as a foxhole mate or backing me up in any way.


21 posted on 09/27/2012 11:40:34 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Little Ray

And, if memory serves me correctly, the organizers of the Sepoy Rebellion organized and trained in the same Taliban strongholds of the Afghan / Pakistani no-man’s-land they train in to this day.


22 posted on 09/27/2012 11:48:42 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sherman Logan

I wonder what the Jihadis are teaching about “the perfect day”. Is the Sepoy uprising their example of “the perfect day”?

Understanding our enemies is a key to defeating them.


23 posted on 09/27/2012 1:14:11 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

I have no idea what the jihadis are teaching.

I have read many books about the Sepoy Uprising, and the description in this essay bears little resemblance to what actually happened.

In particular, there is very little evidence of a widespread conspiracy.


24 posted on 09/27/2012 1:40:25 PM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Thanks for your input. The truth is important. I have often thought that an essay comparing the jihadis to the religion of Thugee would be worthwhile. Both teach that others are fair game to be murdered, and the British did a very good job of eradicating them, though they had been a scourge in India for centuries.
25 posted on 09/27/2012 7:00:41 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

Thugee is an odd one. It was more a hereditary thing than a religion to which one could convert.

Despite it being based on worship of Kali, a Hindu goddess, there were Muslim Thugs.


26 posted on 09/28/2012 5:47:51 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles. Reality wins all the wars.)
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To: Sequoyah101

Of course it’s a good idea...at the time and when it actually happens...not as a preventative action for a possible future event.

I do not condone going somewhere and killing women, children and other innocent people just because something involving their countrymen might happen in the future.


27 posted on 09/28/2012 6:37:24 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

I didn’t see anyone even suggesting that.

Why would you or anyone else borrow trouble by bringing that up when it was not even on the table? That does not make good sense.


28 posted on 09/28/2012 7:11:23 AM PDT by Sequoyah101
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To: Sequoyah101

ok


29 posted on 09/28/2012 7:24:19 AM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: stuartcr

Even if Muslim, how can you say killing a 6 or 7yo is a really good idea?”

A - It’s easy for the filthy koranimals to murder children simply on the pretext that they’re kuffar. Just look at Beslan, Israel & what’s going on the Christians in Syria. Hell, the become a hero to their fellow herd members & they’re given the title of mucho-crap-in-jeans. Just look at all the posters & shirts they sell of those filthy koranimals in the West Bamk and Gaza.

You’re a filthy kafir. You have no value nor do your offspring.


30 posted on 06/10/2013 6:04:40 AM PDT by bayouranger (How do you coexist with a neighbor who has the ethical choice of jihad of murder and deceit? -Dr.B.W)
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To: jagusafr
“If you are legally authorized to carry own a weapon and you step outside your front door without it, you have chosen to be a sheep [rather than a sheepdog].”
31 posted on 06/13/2013 2:31:44 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Navy Patriot
Muslims have been saying this and acting on it as policy toward Israel since, let's see, 1948...

Wrong is wrong, even when it is us. It is wrong to murder children, whether in the womb or the offspring of an evil enemy. Killing adult Muslims is arguably an act of preemptive self-defense. Take the children and raise them with love and let God's love do the rest.

32 posted on 06/13/2013 2:38:35 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: stuartcr; Little Ray; Navy Patriot; Elendur; JoeFromSidney; SargeK; bayouranger
They get them started early, on the "killing Infidels" thing, over there. If the adult mulslim terrorists get their "go orders" over here, go on a rampage killing Americans in "soft targets", and the kids participate, they're fair game. IMO.


33 posted on 06/18/2013 1:28:01 PM PDT by carriage_hill (Guns kill people, pencils misspell words, cars drive drunk & spoons make you fat.)
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To: ken5050; Little Ray; null and void; Sherman Logan
The article exaggerates. Firstly, the Sepoy Rebellion was mainly in the Gangetic plain and in contrast the Tamils, Sikhs and Nepalis supported the British against the Moguls

Secondly, the "give the best shot" indicates a pre-determined plan. There wasn't

Thirdly the Kanpur (or Cawnpore) massacre is as Sherman points out, chaotic and hardly planned

As Sherman points out correctly Horrible atrocities were indeed committed by both sides, though the number of Indians murdered by the Brits is probably a large multiple (20x, 50x, 100x, who knows?) of the Brits murdered by Indians. This is largely because there just weren't that many Brits in India at the time, while there were lots and lots of Indians available for slaughter.

The point is that while these atrocities happened, the true nature of events bears little semblance to this definition of a "Perfect Day."

Sherman, I would also state that the ignorance of the article's author is because many people think of India as one country while it isn't -- the people of Punjab and of Madras as different nations, different races and their languages are as similar as Italian and Japanese

The "Indian Mutiny" was really just the "Gangetic north Indian mutiny" and even then it was mainly brought on by the erstwhile rulers trying to get back their power to collect more money

The common people saw the British as just another tax collector, no better, no worse

And for Tamils, Sikhs etc., the British were better than the Moslem rulers or the Marathas (to some extent)

34 posted on 06/30/2013 11:27:43 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros>Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: marktwain; Sherman Logan
The thuggee philosophy is quite different from Islam. Thug's were similar to the Aztec religion -- the Devi (goddess) needs blood.

islam preaches more on "convert the infidel"

35 posted on 06/30/2013 11:29:11 PM PDT by Cronos (Latin presbuteros>Late Latin presbyter->Old English pruos->Middle Engl prest->priest)
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To: Cronos

(”islam preaches more on “convert the infidel”)- by blood. Are you being directly, a liar or just stupid?


36 posted on 07/01/2013 12:01:25 AM PDT by RedHeeler
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To: Cronos
Yes, the two have considerable dissimilarities, but there are similarities as well.

In Thugee, the practitioners saw people as legitimate prey, they had no desire to convert them.

In Islam, people are to be given a chance to convert, but if they choose not to, they are legitimate prey.

The story of Thugee and its demise is a fascinating one. I think it would be more widely shown, except that it shows the British as accomplishing a positive thing.

37 posted on 07/01/2013 4:31:22 AM PDT by marktwain (The MSM must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: Cronos; ken5050; Little Ray; Sherman Logan
You are making the HUGE assumption that the muzzies learned nothing from the Sepoy rebellion, that next time such a slaughter won't be deliberate, planned, co-ordinated and universal.

That's why I cited Huế, In that case it was deliberate, planed, and co-ordinated The result? Everyone with a history of cooperating with the Americans and every member of the government and every member of their families were murdered in a single night.

The Sepoy revolt isn't a piece of malicious software that can only be robotically followed to inevitable failure, it, like all other military actions, is a learning experience.

The kid fell off the bicycle in 1857, I think he can give riding it a very good go today.

38 posted on 07/01/2013 7:09:43 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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To: null and void

I think you make a really odd assumption that Muslims (or at least Muslims outside India) look back to the glory days of the First Indian War of Independence. I have never see anything even vaguely resembling evidence this is the case.

Even Pakistanis don’t identify with it that much, because the affected areas were entirely, I believe, inside what is now India. The revolt was also most emphatically not a “Muslim revolt.” Both Muslims and Hindus participated. To the extent there was an ideology behind the Mutiny, it was an inchoate desire to return to a better past.

I have seen a lot more glorification of the Mutiny by Hindus than Muslims. Many Hindus see it as a precursor to the independence struggle. Muslims, not so much, quite probably because it wasn’t specifically Muslim in motivation.

There are examples of much more effective mass murder of intruders, notably the Sicilian Vespers and the Asiatic Vespers of Mithridates the Great.

Hue was a massacre by a conquering army of its opponents and anybody else they took a dislike to, for which unfortunately the historical precedents are far too many to cite.

It was also relatively small beer on a historical scale, with somewhere between 3000 and 6000 probably murdered. Out of roughly 1M people, that isn’t a world-historical murder rate.


39 posted on 07/01/2013 7:55:25 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Sherman Logan

Iran doesn’t identify with the US, North Korea doesn’t identify with the US.

They both want to emulate the US as a nuclear power though.

Why is that do you suppose?

The US and the USSR didn’t identify with Nazi Germany, yet they both were quite happy to round up every German rocket scientist they could find, despite the fact that the V-2 didn’t win the war for Hitler.

Why was that do you suppose?


40 posted on 07/01/2013 8:11:04 AM PDT by null and void (Republicans create the tools of oppression, and the democrats gleefully use them!)
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