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STALINGRADíS ARMIES KEEP INITIATIVE (10/5/42)
Microfilm-New York Times archives, Monterey Public Library | 10/5/42 | Ralph Parker, Herbert L. Matthews, F. Tillman Durdin, James MacDonald

Posted on 10/05/2012 5:38:49 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson

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TOPICS: History
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Free Republic University, Department of History presents World War II Plus 70 Years: Seminar and Discussion Forum
First session: September 1, 2009. Last date to add: September 2, 2015.
Reading assignment: New York Times articles delivered daily to students on the 70th anniversary of original publication date. (Previously posted articles can be found by searching on keyword “realtime” Or view Homer’s posting history .)
To add this class to or drop it from your schedule notify Admissions and Records (Attn: Homer_J_Simpson) by freepmail. Those on the Realtime +/- 70 Years ping list are automatically enrolled. Course description, prerequisites and tuition information is available at the bottom of Homer’s profile. Also visit our general discussion thread.
1 posted on 10/05/2012 5:38:55 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson
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Selections from West Point Atlas for the Second World War
Papua, New Guinea, 1942
Allied Advance Across Owen Stanley Mountains, 26 Sept.-15 Nov. 1942
The Solomons: Guadalcanal and Florida, 1942
Southwest Russia, 1942: German Advance to Stalingrad, Operations, 24 July-18 November 1942
The Far East and the Pacific, 1941: Status of Forces and Allied Theater Boundaries, 2 July 1942
India-Burma, 1942: Allied Lines of Communication, 1942-1943
2 posted on 10/05/2012 5:39:45 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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William L. Shirer, The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich

3 posted on 10/05/2012 5:41:40 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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To: r9etb; PzLdr; dfwgator; Paisan; From many - one.; rockinqsranch; 2banana; henkster; meandog; ...
Nazis Still at Bay (Parker) – 2-3
French Tri-Color Legion Off to Aid the Nazis (photo) – 3
U.S. Training Given to Chinese in India (Matthews) – 4
War News Summarized – 4
Hit-Run Foe Keeps Guadalcanal Busy (Durdin) – 5
Sussex Villagers Run War Factory (MacDonald) – 5-6
Texts of Day’s War Communiques – 7
4 posted on 10/05/2012 5:43:15 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://www.onwar.com/chrono/1942/oct42/f05oct42.htm

Carrier planes strike Japanese shipping
Monday, October 5, 1942 www.onwar.com

US aircraft attack Japanese ships off Bougainville [photo at link]

In the Solomon Islands... American planes from the carrier USS Hornet attack Japanese vessels off Bougainville with little success.


5 posted on 10/05/2012 5:45:08 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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http://homepage.ntlworld.com/andrew.etherington/frame.htm

October 4th, 1942

UNITED KINGDOM: Channel Islands: Last night British commandos launched a raid on Sark.

GERMANY: Reichsmarschall Göring says: “This war is not the Second World War: this is the War of the Races. Whether we, the Germanic and Aryan men, or the Jew rule the world - that is the final issue.”

Adolf Hitler states that occupied countries must make up the food shortage caused by the Allied blockade. (Jack McKillop)

U.S.S.R.: The 4th major offensive of Paulus German forces at Stalingrad begins. Their street fighting capabilities have been strengthened with the addition of police and combat-engineer units. This will be the longest of the German offensives and will result in the fiercest fighting. The Soviets have prepared the ground better, attempting to funnel the German drives into specially prepared “killing fields”. The end result of this offensive will be to seriously deplete the Germans in both morale and reserves.

NEW GUINEA: Australian forces continue to advance along the Kokoda Trail capturing Effogi.

Fifth Air Force P-40s strafe forces and occupied areas at Myola Lake, Kokoda, Wairopi, Yodda, and Buna; a US reconnaissance party from the 126th Infantry Regiment, 32d Infantry Division reaches Jauri, completing a reconnaissance of the Kapa Kapa-Jauri trail, which is found to be difficult but practicable for use as a route in a contemplated offensive against the Buna-Gona area. (Jack McKillop)

TERRITORY OF ALASKA: ALEUTIAN ISLANDS: 3 Eleventh Air Force B-24 Liberators abort weather, bombing and photo missions over Kiska Island due to weather and instead attack a cargo vessel; the ship’s rudder is probably damaged. (Jack McKillop)
U.S.A.: Baseball!

Off the coast of the U.S., the American tanker SS Camden is torpedoed by Japanese submarine HIJMS I-25 off the coast of Oregon, at position 43°42’N, 124°52’W, and is abandoned. (Jack McKillop)

Destroyer USS Evans launched.
Minesweeper USS Usage launched.

ATLANTIC OCEAN: U-175 sank SS Caribstar. (Dave Shirlaw)


6 posted on 10/05/2012 5:46:18 AM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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Horrible...absolutely horrible.


7 posted on 10/05/2012 6:22:52 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum)
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Omg

anyone who can read that and not be profoundly moved has no soul.


8 posted on 10/05/2012 6:58:09 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (We can’t just leave it (food choice) up to the parents. -- moochele obozo 2/12/2012 (cnsnews))
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9 posted on 10/05/2012 10:44:04 AM PDT by CougarGA7 ("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
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10 posted on 10/05/2012 10:49:09 AM PDT by CougarGA7 ("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
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As much as I have read about the Holocaust, I still can’t read an account like that without being profoundly saddened. Utter horror and depravity.


11 posted on 10/05/2012 1:13:57 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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I was just a kid, 13-14, when the Stalingrad fight was going on, but I read every news article, and listened to every radio report from Stalingrad.What a horrible battle, and so many killed on both sides. Hitler, lost his entire 6th Army. He refused to let the Generals surrender, and the result was a complete capture. HORRIBLE.
12 posted on 10/05/2012 1:20:52 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 ("The plans I have for you are plans to prosper you.,not to harm you, Plans to give you hope)
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I was just a kid, 13-14, when the Stalingrad fight was going on, but I read every news article, and listened to every radio report from Stalingrad.What a horrible battle, and so many killed on both sides. Hitler, lost his entire 6th Army. He refused to let the Generals surrender, and the result was a complete capture. HORRIBLE.
13 posted on 10/05/2012 1:21:06 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 ("The plans I have for you are plans to prosper you.,not to harm you, Plans to give you hope)
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To: colorado tanker
I was just a kid, 13-14, when the Stalingrad fight was going on, but I read every news article, and listened to every radio report from Stalingrad.What a horrible battle, and so many killed on both sides. Hitler, lost his entire 6th Army. He refused to let the Generals surrender, and the result was a complete capture. HORRIBLE.
14 posted on 10/05/2012 1:21:21 PM PDT by BooBoo1000 ("The plans I have for you are plans to prosper you.,not to harm you, Plans to give you hope)
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Herr Graebe deftly illustrates the death of all German souls present, extinguished by the image of God present in the souls of these calm and civilized Jews.

Probably the dead souls took the physical lives of their owners after a suitable interval, as usually happens in these situations.

The simple comment “twenty-three years old” clarified this for me.


15 posted on 10/05/2012 1:54:19 PM PDT by InMemoriam (I have to vote against Eric Holder, even if it means voting for Romney.)
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Is this time frame in 1942 the high-tide of the German advance into Russia?


16 posted on 10/05/2012 2:45:37 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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Is this time frame in 1942 the high-tide of the German advance into Russia?

Is it now or was it last December when they were in suburban Moscow?

17 posted on 10/05/2012 3:12:13 PM PDT by Homer_J_Simpson ("Every nation has the government that it deserves." - Joseph de Maistre (1753-1821))
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I’m not sure if the line now at Stalingrad marks the high water point as far as square miles occupied by the Nazis in Russia, but the “high-tide” mark, in my opinion, was December of 1941 right before the Soviet counter attack. Even with this “south only” offensive in the following year, the momentum has already shifted.


18 posted on 10/05/2012 7:45:13 PM PDT by CougarGA7 ("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
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To: Rebelbase

Meant to ping you to post #18 as well.


19 posted on 10/05/2012 7:46:01 PM PDT by CougarGA7 ("History is politics projected into the past" - Michael Pokrovski)
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That was in 1941. But they made southern gains in 1942.


20 posted on 10/05/2012 8:02:32 PM PDT by Rebelbase (The most transparent administration ever is clear as mud.)
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