Give a hand
(1) Romney was NOT a conservative....he was merely the anti-Obama. Folks here on FR got way too invested in a candidate that they have known for YEARS was not a conservtive....NOT one of us. It amazed me how otherwise intelligent folks became invested in a poor choice that should NEVER have gotten the nod.
(2) Obama is going to mess things up really bad...especially the economy. Because of this, Conservatives will be able to pick up many more House and Senate seats in 2014 and 2016. If Romney had of been elected, we would have lost seats. Romney may well have hurt the brand of "conservatism."
(3) IF we conservatives can stop devouring each other and develope consensus, we can help ensure a REAL conservative is the candidate for the GOP in 2016. We need to start today on that. NO MORE RINOs picked by the GOP Establishment....in fact it is way past time to throw out the GOPe! They pushed Romney on us, he was a poor choice. They need to go, and future Romneys do as well.
(4) We still have control of the House.
(5) Things are bad, but IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD PEOPLE! We haved survived worse. Somethings to make things better, they have to get worse first.
Sola Veritas
Time to prepare to sell your lives dearly. The rules of the game just went out the window. the rule of law means nothing now. The rule of men has the upper hand. With everything that implies.
Things are bad, but IT IS NOT THE END OF THE WORLD PEOPLE! We haved survived worse. Somethings to make things better, they have to get worse first.
Yes, I believe this very conversation was taking place in Jewish communities in Germany in 1935.
Things can get worse, but if you plan for a future that works like the past, you could be in for a rude awakening.
Life in America will NEVER be the same.
LLS
Why do you believe there will be another election. A Socialist Autocrat,having no need for a constitution or a legislative branch, will rule by executive edict. And who or what will restrain him?
We may learn why all those thousands of rounds of rifle ammo were purchased.
It’s up to the States to stand up for their rights. Nullify intrusions like Obamacare and the EPA war on coal.
2016 may not matter...
Now, the democrats will expand their attacks on our Christian churches...homosexual marriage will be a reality...the issue was never really about gay rights people...it is about the destruction of our Christian churches.
They will take over by regulatory and taxation power our private sector.
They will create an atmosphere where it is even more difficult for opposition...look at how the media helped the democrat party this election cycle...it is insane to think that it will get better later...they are going to consolidate power even more than during the first term.
No, if we want to change things we will have to bring down this government by other means...legal means. In Poland they boycotted and walked off their jobs and defeated the Communists...but, in this country we still live in a relative lap of luxury...most will not risk their precious livelihoods to save the nation...hell, I remember how many could not go to the Tea Party event just before the obamacare vote because of familiy or friend get togethers...these people will not be put out by restoring freedom.
So, we can live here watching this country decline and our children’s opportunities die more every year or we can choose to move to better more free nations...now there are plenty.
Don’t know what I will do yet but I am leaning towards moving to another nation.
Thank you! Myth was lame. Ryan, Jindal, McDonnell, Martinez, Rubio, Sandoval, Haley, West, etc. are not! Forward!
What makes you think anything will change4 in the GOP over the next four years?
The GOP is out of excuses and we will not likely survive this election as a Unified Nation.
It is about to.get worse. I am done. Making plans to.regroup and get off the grid some how. It is very clear that these idiots want the govt to run things. I am seriously thinking about costa rica.
You have seen what this man has done. I have never in all my years of elections have seen someone get reelected in the state this country is in. There is nothing to stop him now.
For once in my life I am truly frightened. More people are going to lose their jobs more take over of businesses and industry through regulatios. You/we are going to be witnesses to the total collapse of our capital
sysem and in its place a socialist government much like Venezuela.
Most of us knew that this election was for all the marbles and we lost and by losing we lost what was left of the republic. Elections in 4 more years? Don’t thing so. America is goone. The only satifaction is that these people who voted for Obama will suffer too.
As for Romney he was not my first choice. But as I watched him he had gained my.respect and trust. He would have made a fine president. He should have won tonight. Something is terribly wrong here.
If the GOP wants to win national and other key elections...they will need to:
- Dump the Liberal PhonyCon RINO candidates and agenda. It does not work. If you still think it works...maybe you should talk to President Dole, President McCain, and ask George HW Bush how his second term went?
- Dump the “we need Hispanic voters” nonsense. All that is doing is pushing Illegal Alien Amnesty...which turns off a large segment of the base. And, Illegal Aliens and their supporters are never going to vote GOP anyway
- Dump the Free Trade/Globalism nonsense. Why emulate the EU? And, you cannot win conservative-to-moderate working-class voters who vote Democrat because you want to ship their job to Communist China. Like the “Hispanic Voters/Amnesty” nonsense....Free Trade/Globalism is a sure loser in the Rust Belt states. and, Free Trade is a Liberal idea...look at all the Dems and European Socialists who support it?
- Realize that Fox News, GOP Talk Radio, and most of GOP Media is not conservative. They used to be conservative, but now they attack people who bring up Obama Eligibility! These are the same people that were willing to impeach Clinton for soiling an interns dress....and now they are chickening out on a wholly Constitutional regarding w Obama?
- Emphasize sites like FR and others that support and promote real conservative values. Get the word out to others. Alluding to my previous point....I cannot believe there are those in the GOP Media who attack FreeRepublic, WND, Drudge, and some other sites. Hint: A GOP Talker or Media person is not a conservative if they are attacking this site or other conservative sites
If the GOP wants to win national and other key elections...they will need to:
- Dump the Liberal PhonyCon RINO candidates and agenda. It does not work. If you still think it works...maybe you should talk to President Dole, President McCain, and ask George HW Bush how his second term went?
- Dump the “we need Hispanic voters” nonsense. All that is doing is pushing Illegal Alien Amnesty...which turns off a large segment of the base. And, Illegal Aliens and their supporters are never going to vote GOP anyway
- Dump the Free Trade/Globalism nonsense. Why emulate the EU? And, you cannot win conservative-to-moderate working-class voters who vote Democrat because you want to ship their job to Communist China. Like the “Hispanic Voters/Amnesty” nonsense....Free Trade/Globalism is a sure loser in the Rust Belt states. and, Free Trade is a Liberal idea...look at all the Dems and European Socialists who support it?
- Realize that Fox News, GOP Talk Radio, and most of GOP Media is not conservative. They used to be conservative, but now they attack people who bring up Obama Eligibility! These are the same people that were willing to impeach Clinton for soiling an interns dress....and now they are chickening out on a wholly Constitutional regarding w Obama?
- Emphasize sites like FR and others that support and promote real conservative values. Get the word out to others. Alluding to my previous point....I cannot believe there are those in the GOP Media who attack FreeRepublic, WND, Drudge, and some other sites. Hint: A GOP Talker or Media person is not a conservative if they are attacking this site or other conservative sites
1) No conservative to FR liking is never going to be president again. Romney was the gops best hope; Santorum,
Bachman, Hunstman, Gingrich, Paul would not have done better.
3) How do you square “conservatives can stop devouring each other and develop consensus” with “NO MORE RINOs”? The gops shrinking tent is a real liability and to keep throwing out RINOs (libertairians, and Reagan democrats, etc.) just is not good strategy for winning elections.
5) Doomsday is on Dec 21. ;)
Now, the democrats will expand their attacks on our Christian churches...homosexual marriage will be a reality...the issue was never really about gay rights people...it is about the destruction of our Christian churches.
They will take over by regulatory and taxation power our private sector.
They will create an atmosphere where it is even more difficult for opposition...look at how the media helped the democrat party this election cycle...it is insane to think that it will get better later...they are going to consolidate power even more than during the first term.
No, if we want to change things we will have to bring down this government by other means...legal means. In Poland they boycotted and walked off their jobs and defeated the Communists...but, in this country we still live in a relative lap of luxury...most will not risk their precious livelihoods to save the nation...hell, I remember how many could not go to the Tea Party event just before the obamacare vote because of familiy or friend get togethers...these people will not be put out by restoring freedom.
So, we can live here watching this country decline and our children’s opportunities die more every year or we can choose to move to better more free nations...now there are plenty.
Don’t know what I will do yet but I am leaning towards moving to another nation.
Well by that time another 20 million more Mexicans will arrive here and most of ‘em vote Democrat.
It’s past time to WHIG the GOP & start over. It’s DEAD. It’s LIBERAL. It’s as Corrupt as the DEMs Now. It’s FINISHED. Conservatives need to form a onstitutional Conservative party and defund the GOP starting now. There has to be a 180 degree difference. DEMLITE will not change anything.
I am laying off everyone who is marginal tomorrow. I am now in full defensive mode. You wanted Utopioa? You got it!
Ridiculous pronoucements in this thread.
If you want to claim conservatism is dead go right ahead but don’t you dare claim it is so because Romney was defeated. He is not and never was a friend to conservatism. He doesn’t have the slightest idea of what it is. you can cite his nomination for an argument but not his general election run. Even then you are on shaky ground because Republican voters have this damn foolish tendency to simply annoint next in line without regard to what they believe.
To the second point you are exactly right. Conservatives don’t form a majority. No shocker there! Hey, newsflash, neither do liberals! The difference is that when your base is happy and excited and voting for YOU and for YOUR stated campaign agenda they are more inclined to work on your behalf in convincing that 10% undecided to lean toward that party instead of the other. Those undecided gravitate to the likeable candidate everyone seems to favor. Tell me the base liked and supported McCain or Romney in any form like Dems do Obama and I’ll call you a liar. So the GOP can keep shoving these guys down out throat and the primary voters can keep marching in line to nominate them but they’ll lose until we’re given better then “at least I’m not that guy”.