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Can you spot the problem? (vanity)
12/17/2012 | BO Stinkss

Posted on 12/17/2012 5:09:48 AM PST by BO Stinkss

These are photos of Jared Lee Loughner (Gabby Gifford's shooter), James E. Holmes (Colorado movie theater shooter), and Adam Lanza (Connecticut school shooter)



TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: guncontrol; insane; secondamendment; vanity
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We don't need gun control - we need crazy people control.
1 posted on 12/17/2012 5:09:53 AM PST by BO Stinkss
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To: BO Stinkss

... all three of them have “dead eye” syndrome ....


2 posted on 12/17/2012 5:11:59 AM PST by Ken522
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To: BO Stinkss
Evidence is that prescribed drugs are a problem..

"Take two now and cull a crowd in the morning . . . ."


3 posted on 12/17/2012 5:12:21 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: BO Stinkss

It’s in their eyes,it always is.


4 posted on 12/17/2012 5:12:28 AM PST by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: BO Stinkss

It’s all in the eyes....the windows to the soul...


5 posted on 12/17/2012 5:12:51 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: BO Stinkss

We forgot the Amish school kids....10 shot-5 dead.


6 posted on 12/17/2012 5:14:40 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: BO Stinkss

The American Suicide Gunmen have joined the ranks of the Jihadist Suicide Bombers. Both are products of culture. Sad but true.


7 posted on 12/17/2012 5:19:00 AM PST by sevinufnine (Sevin - "If we do not fight when we know we can win, we'll have to fight when we know we will lose")
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To: Ken522

You nailed it. Plus in my opinion a want.need.desire to be famous. I found Morgan Freeman’s response on Facebook this morning very interesting. I know Mr Freeman is a flaming liberal but this time I believe he nails it.

Morgan Freeman’s brilliant take on what happened yesterday :

“You want to know why. This may sound cynical, but here’s why.

It’s because of the way the media reports it. Flip on the news and watch how we treat the Batman theater shooter and the Oregon mall shooter like celebrities. Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris are household names, but do you know the name of a single *victim* of Columbine? Disturbed
people who would otherwise just off themselves in their basements see the news and want to top it by doing something worse, and going out in a memorable way. Why a grade school? Why children? Because he’ll be remembered as a horrible monster, instead of a sad nobody.

CNN’s article says that if the body count “holds up”, this will rank as the second deadliest shooting behind Virginia Tech, as if statistics somehow make one shooting worse than another. Then they post a video interview of third-graders for all the details of what they saw and heard while the shootings were happening. Fox News has plastered the killer’s face on all their reports for hours. Any articles or news stories yet that focus on the victims and ignore the killer’s identity? None that I’ve seen yet. Because they don’t sell. So congratulations, sensationalist media, you’ve just lit the fire for someone to top this and knock off a day care center or a maternity ward next.

You can help by forgetting you ever read this man’s name, and remembering the name of at least one victim. You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem. You can help by turning off the news.”


8 posted on 12/17/2012 5:19:29 AM PST by Tupelo (Hunkered down & loading up)
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To: Tupelo
Debunked.

You're right. Morgan Freeman is a flaming liberal. That response has been incorrectly attributed to him.

9 posted on 12/17/2012 5:23:39 AM PST by Washi (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: Tupelo

Morgan Freeman said that? No way!


10 posted on 12/17/2012 5:29:20 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ ├×)
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To: BO Stinkss
Can you spot the problem?

Yes.

The ruling class New Normal..

some of whom I name below welcome the horror as the easiest way of removing all the guns from the hands of citizens. Listen to them demand more and more laws and restrictions on who can own guns and and not a word about anything else.


11 posted on 12/17/2012 5:31:09 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Tupelo

Anti-social attention whoredom is twisted. Any public act demonstration a lack of self control which dehumanizes mankind is cheered on.

The man who shot up the school mentioned on the Net that he would be in the news the next day. Twisted individuals with anti-social personalities used to want to hide their problem from society. Now they are put front and center and celebrated by our twisted news and entertainment and Leftist political elite so that they can demolish Western moral and ethical foundations. It’s called cultural cleansing. They seem to be in the imp culture phase of “progress.” They are trying to recreate Sodom.


12 posted on 12/17/2012 5:39:35 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson

The eyes have it.


13 posted on 12/17/2012 5:53:23 AM PST by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Tupelo

“You can help by donating to mental health research instead of pointing to gun control as the problem.”

...he misses one point and nails another. I would no sooner give to “mental health research” than I would to the BO campaign. This kid was a psycho. A medicated psycho. As long as there’s money in prescriptions, there will always be prescriptions.

Give teachers guns, get rid of “Gun Free Zone” signs and the problem will decrease. But Psychos will always be around.

Freeman complains that CNN made him famous?! That’s the same media that got his anti-American Marxist Kenyan buddy re-elected. They made BO a hero and a celebrity. What’s he got to complain about?


14 posted on 12/17/2012 5:57:11 AM PST by albie
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To: Farmer Dean
It’s in their eyes,it always is.

Oh please, spare me the asinine amateur psychology/pharmacology based on pictures.

People were making similar diagnoses OF THE WRONG PERSON when it was Ryan Lanza's picture out there.

The only reason you see anything is that YOU ALREADY KNOW THEY ARE MURDERERS.

Without that knowledge, they're just random goofballs and you wouldn't take a second glance at their pictures.

Given a random selection of 10 pictures of goofy looking white guys aged 16-25, with 5 of them just being random goofy looking white guys, and the other 5 murderers, you'd do no better than chance picking out the murderers.

15 posted on 12/17/2012 5:58:44 AM PST by Strategerist
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To: BO Stinkss

YES!!

The lack of an effective mental health system in this country is a national disgrace.

We are all at risk because we refuse to recognize mental illness, offer support and treatment in its early stages, and remove the dangerous from among us.

Instead, we want to remove the superficial method rather than acknowledge and treat the underlying cause.

Stop the kumbaya-takeawayweapons and give families effective options for getting these people off the streets.

Spoken as the family member of one who could have easily become an Adam Lanza.


16 posted on 12/17/2012 6:05:18 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: BO Stinkss

They’re all young and male. Drugged up on mind-bending pharmaceuticals, perhaps. They don’t grow up as fast as they used to and it’s no wonder.

What I think I see is weakened minds having adverse reactions to the shock of the realization of having to live in a so-called adult world. They don’t know exactly what’s bothering them but there does seem to be something going on in their heads that they can’t process normally.

What if it was feminist society’s fault? Boys need to grow to be men and want to feel like men but this feministic society tends to impede their development. They might have male heroes that they see as being real men but they’ve been subjected to indoctrinations that try to thwart those primal instincts and sometimes, it backfires.


17 posted on 12/17/2012 6:08:03 AM PST by equaviator
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To: sevinufnine

That’s the elephant in the room that many on the left (and, sadly, many on FR) refuse to acknowledge.


18 posted on 12/17/2012 6:08:22 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Maybe if they would legalize marijuana we wouldn’t have people walking around with a look like this on their face? /s


19 posted on 12/17/2012 6:10:44 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (...and to the Republic for which it STOOD...)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

That is total garbage.

Threats of violence and suicide versus a near-normal life? The only difference is one small pill a day that works miracles.

Have you ever lived with a clinically depressed person, either unipolar or bipolar, who is untreated?

If not, shut up. I have. What you posted is ignorant balderdash.


20 posted on 12/17/2012 6:11:33 AM PST by Jedidah
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To: BO Stinkss
Please copy and share around the net if you feel it's helpful.


21 posted on 12/17/2012 6:12:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SaraJohnson

Exactly.

And the state-run media almost glamorizes these events with the constant coverage and what they focus on.

They do so for ratings.

And they do so because they are statists at heart and they know that focusing on the issue will help push part of their political agenda.

But notice how quiet they were about Fast and Furious and the gun-running scheme to arm Al Qaeda (better known as Benghazi). You see, THOSE stories of people killed by guns do not further their cause and do not shine a pretty light on Obammie and his Commies, their beloved Statists.

If Obama is going to take credit for killing Bin Laden, then he almost must take the blame for that single drone attack in Pakistan that killed 69 children.

I don’t remember him shedding crocodile tears over those children and talking about the need of getting rid of drones, which the statists are now using in our skies.


22 posted on 12/17/2012 6:15:24 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Strategerist

Yes, I wouldn’t snap to judgement about any of those pics.

But, come on, if you saw one of those faces staring at you from across the bar, don’t tell me it wouldn’t make the hair on the back of your neck stand up.


23 posted on 12/17/2012 6:17:42 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: Jedidah

I understand your frustration and I’m sure many on this thread appreciate your view point.

But did you really need to go the “just shut up” route?


24 posted on 12/17/2012 6:20:41 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Wow...three totally interchangable sets of crazy eyes. We’ve got to do something about controlling dangerous, mentally ill people.


25 posted on 12/17/2012 6:21:40 AM PST by pgkdan (We are witnessing the modern sack of Rome. The barbarians have taken over.)
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To: Travis McGee

Good Pic, Shared!


26 posted on 12/17/2012 6:24:26 AM PST by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I am so sick and tired of reading the blame of mass killers on prescription drugs. It has the same lack of logic as the gun banners.

Questions:

1. How do you know that the use of prescription drugs does not keep us safe from thousands of similar mentally ill ?
2. How do you know that (assuming a drug was used by the perpetrator)the drug caused the action and that the drug had its desired affect?
3. How do you know the drug was used as prescribed? Did the person skip doses, did he combine it with other drugs?
4. Do you believe that any medicines are effective? If so, why are you against psychotropic drugs?
5. Do you realize that other foods and environmental triggers are capable of affecting our hormones and resulting psychology? Do we ban everything that does the same?
6. Many mentally ill seek self medication which leads them to alcohol abuse, drug abuse, adrenalin seeking behaviors, etc. Do we let the mentally seek such destructive behavior or do we try to regulate it with the use of science, measure and consult?

I assume you and the gun grabbers have the same motive that is based on denial that bad things happen to good people. We do not have control over many of these events. No laws will protect us. No gun laws, no drug bans etc will protect.

Only love will endure. Only love will bear all things.


27 posted on 12/17/2012 6:24:44 AM PST by Raycpa
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To: Travis McGee

Bookmark.


28 posted on 12/17/2012 6:25:24 AM PST by jersey117
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To: BO Stinkss

We need media that stops reporting on these stories.

Beyond the basic information, after the first day, they are simply flogging the story for ratings.

The news media is truly disgusting in this regard.

I’ve stopped watching news since it happened, other than a quick flip on and off of maybe fox business news or real quick flips at the “others” (maybe 5-10 seconds).

Even business news on TV is getting disconnected from reality, they ignore the insanity of trillion dollar welfare spending. They push every stupid crazy idea out there except eliminating whole government agencies, the only way to possibly get government put back in it’s cage.

The more we keep flogging the sad news mass murder stories, the more we are setting up the next mass murderer to act.

Right now - the news media is helping to motivate the next mass murderer, by making this guy infamous.

He should be regarded as the deranged anomalie that he is and ignored by everyone.

And the victims families being shown in big sad stories over and over is intrusive to them and worst of all, as I said, sets up the big drama queen idea for the next mass murderer sitting in his basement right now.

It’s a tragedy, but everyone - including our schools - turning to God is what will help more than anything.

On the practical side, why not have training for some specially selected school staff members for these situations ? Training could be put on by those with military training and could have realistic practice sessions. The military channel frequently runs shows soldiers being trained in “clearing a building” - why not have folks with such training working at a school as a teacher ? What a great career for veterans - teaching !


29 posted on 12/17/2012 6:25:32 AM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

“And the state-run media almost glamorizes these events with the constant coverage and what they focus on.”

What I resent is that the media seems to feel the need to “humanize” the victims and even the perpetrators with stories of their personal lives, what they would have been doing if this had not happened, what they wanted to be when they grew up, etc.

It’s enough to know what happened and how it happened. The coverage goes so far as to suggest that people looking in from the outside need to feel every bit of pain because otherwise, we’d be oblivious to the meaning of it and the gravity of the situation.


30 posted on 12/17/2012 6:26:53 AM PST by equaviator
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To: pgkdan

Wasn’t it the ever-destructive, termitic LIBs who closed most of the mental hospitals so as not to impinge on the mentally-ill’s rights? They initially were supposed to be supplanted by “community mental health centers”. Yet another LIB plan that didn’t work out so well, did it? The weird thing is that all LIBs are mentally ill.


31 posted on 12/17/2012 6:27:22 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: BO Stinkss

The media rush to make the murderers instant heros. Their names and disgusting faces are all over the news, bigger than life on the tabloids, on TV 24/7.

I think that this is a motivating factor for some of these bastards. They think they will “show the world” and “now these people will respect me.”

The media should just report that “a random a$$hole is suspected of being the murderer.” No name, no face.


32 posted on 12/17/2012 6:30:28 AM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Farmer Dean

I have an uncle that is a retired prison guard. I remember him telling me 25 years ago that they (guards) were always extra cautious around inmates whose eyes showed more white than color. Even the other inmates knew that white eyes were more than a little off.


33 posted on 12/17/2012 6:30:55 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Our society, by it’s action and voice, love killing the innocent and love impish anti-social monkey behavior. The elite just want to be the ones to decide who of the innocent they will slaughter. This young man slaughtered some children. Had Obama - the liberal elite - done it, it is fine. They don’t like competition in the killing.

Liberals aren’t real into the human beings they hate and have dehumanized.


34 posted on 12/17/2012 6:32:58 AM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: BO Stinkss
People with mental issues have been normalized in our society through the use of drugs and therapy.
35 posted on 12/17/2012 6:33:24 AM PST by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: equaviator

Indeed. I was going to add “their perspective” but feared it may be misunderstood and I’d be flamed.

You are exactly right. They squeeze every tear they can out of the audience and it goes too far.

Our hearts are already torn apart. We don’t need what comes across as the “reality TV” element on top of it.


36 posted on 12/17/2012 6:34:23 AM PST by Ghost of Philip Marlowe (Prepare for survival.)
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To: BO Stinkss

Lanza was a bright young man. I read yesterday that he started college at 16. It’s a mistake to think that a bright kid is a mature person. Kids have very little patience. A bright young man will be able to see lots of problems with the world. He will become impatient to solve the problems. Lacking maturity and experience, he will become frustrated. Add in the normal teenage male hormones and the energy of youth. He sees problems. Wants to fix those problems. Feels that no one takes him seriously because of his age. Becomes frustrated. Doesn’t have the patience and experience of maturity. Feels that his intellect makes up for maturity and patience and experience. Becomes extremely frustrated and angry. Add in any other issues such as divorced parents, failure with girls, shyness. Mix well with a culture that values loooks, fame and getting high and devalues life, wisdom and maturity.


37 posted on 12/17/2012 6:38:51 AM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe; sevinufnine

We don’t refuse to acknowledge, we disagree with the premise.


38 posted on 12/17/2012 6:40:11 AM PST by EEGator
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To: BO Stinkss

Perhaps they need to look into the effects of prolonged violent gaming. Since many folks knew Adam ... perhaps if there was some type of an online portal for citizens to report/monitor such folks who ‘game’ for days, without eating, bathing, never leave their house, with no job, over the age of 18 years old, and generally free to walk about. Older generation needs to understand the severity of this and the problem is not gun controls but rather deeply disturbed individuals having access to such technology. These are not ATARI like games. They are real time..blow you and others up on line in real time to bits...blood and guts shed and all. After days of playing these games it seems people have a difficult time discerning virtual vs reality. The only way to reproduce the on line experience is to go out and shoot people in the real world.


39 posted on 12/17/2012 6:47:27 AM PST by Maggie34
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To: BO Stinkss

Perhaps they need to look into the effects of prolonged violent gaming. Since many folks knew Adam ... perhaps if there was some type of an online portal for citizens to report/monitor such folks who ‘game’ for days, without eating, bathing, never leave their house, with no job, over the age of 18 years old, and generally free to walk about. Older generation needs to understand the severity of this and the problem is not gun controls but rather deeply disturbed individuals having access to such technology. These are not ATARI like games. They are real time..blow you and others up on line in real time to bits...blood and guts shed and all. After days of playing these games it seems people have a difficult time discerning virtual vs reality. The only way to reproduce the on line experience is to go out and shoot people in the real world.


40 posted on 12/17/2012 6:47:43 AM PST by Maggie34
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To: BO Stinkss

Perhaps they need to look into the effects of prolonged violent gaming. Since many folks knew Adam ... perhaps if there was some type of an online portal for citizens to report/monitor such folks who ‘game’ for days, without eating, bathing, never leave their house, with no job, over the age of 18 years old, and generally free to walk about. Older generation needs to understand the severity of this and the problem is not gun controls but rather deeply disturbed individuals having access to such technology. These are not ATARI like games. They are real time..blow you and others up on line in real time to bits...blood and guts shed and all. After days of playing these games it seems people have a difficult time discerning virtual vs reality. The only way to reproduce the on line experience is to go out and shoot people in the real world.


41 posted on 12/17/2012 6:47:53 AM PST by Maggie34
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To: BO Stinkss

Perhaps they need to look into the effects of prolonged violent gaming. Since many folks knew Adam ... perhaps if there was some type of an online portal for citizens to report/monitor such folks who ‘game’ for days, without eating, bathing, never leave their house, with no job, over the age of 18 years old, and generally free to walk about. Older generation needs to understand the severity of this and the problem is not gun controls but rather deeply disturbed individuals having access to such technology. These are not ATARI like games. They are real time..blow you and others up on line in real time to bits...blood and guts shed and all. After days of playing these games it seems people have a difficult time discerning virtual vs reality. The only way to reproduce the on line experience is to go out and shoot people in the real world.


42 posted on 12/17/2012 6:48:34 AM PST by Maggie34
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To: BO Stinkss

Perhaps they need to look into the effects of prolonged violent gaming. Since many folks knew Adam ... perhaps if there was some type of an online portal for citizens to report/monitor such folks who ‘game’ for days, without eating, bathing, never leave their house, with no job, over the age of 18 years old, and generally free to walk about. Older generation needs to understand the severity of this and the problem is not gun controls but rather deeply disturbed individuals having access to such technology. These are not ATARI like games. They are real time..blow you and others up on line in real time to bits...blood and guts shed and all. After days of playing these games it seems people have a difficult time discerning virtual vs reality. The only way to reproduce the on line experience is to go out and shoot people in the real world.


43 posted on 12/17/2012 6:49:00 AM PST by Maggie34
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To: BO Stinkss

Perhaps they need to look into the effects of prolonged violent gaming. Since many folks knew Adam ... perhaps if there was some type of an online portal for citizens to report/monitor such folks who ‘game’ for days, without eating, bathing, never leave their house, with no job, over the age of 18 years old, and generally free to walk about. Older generation needs to understand the severity of this and the problem is not gun controls but rather deeply disturbed individuals having access to such technology. These are not ATARI like games. They are real time..blow you and others up on line in real time to bits...blood and guts shed and all. After days of playing these games it seems people have a difficult time discerning virtual vs reality. The only way to reproduce the on line experience is to go out and shoot people in the real world.


44 posted on 12/17/2012 6:49:20 AM PST by Maggie34
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To: albie

Perhaps they need to look into the effects of prolonged violent gaming. Since many folks knew Adam ... perhaps if there was some type of an online portal for citizens to report/monitor such folks who ‘game’ for days, without eating, bathing, never leave their house, with no job, over the age of 18 years old, and generally free to walk about. Older generation needs to understand the severity of this and the problem is not gun controls but rather deeply disturbed individuals having access to such technology. These are not ATARI like games. They are real time..blow you and others up on line in real time to bits...blood and guts shed and all. After days of playing these games it seems people have a difficult time discerning virtual vs reality. The only way to reproduce the on line experience is to go out and shoot people in the real world.


45 posted on 12/17/2012 6:50:03 AM PST by Maggie34
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To: equaviator
The coverage goes so far as to suggest that people looking in from the outside need to feel every bit of pain because otherwise, we’d be oblivious to the meaning of it and the gravity of the situation.

Of course!

This is one of the most base tools of emotional manipulation.

It urges people to ignore facts and rational discussion, and in their desperation to feel better, to push for emergency enactments of dusty legislation which would never fly in more sane times.

Yes, the situation is heart wrenching.

That does not mean it should be followed up with more sweeping and grave acts, as many of the Communists (let's call a spade a spade, shall we) in our Government wish.

46 posted on 12/17/2012 6:59:11 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Jedidah; Raycpa
Can either of you point to a source -- other than the pharmaceutical industry -- that all evidence of problems with psychotropic drugs is bogus? That there are no problems.

Can you explain the meaning of and reason for this:

A black box warning is the sternest warning by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) that a medication can carry and still remain on the market in the United States.

These warnings are required on some psychotropic medications.

47 posted on 12/17/2012 7:03:41 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: Maggie34

are you okay?


48 posted on 12/17/2012 7:07:11 AM PST by equaviator
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To: Ken522

I’ve heard it called “moon eyes” where you can see the white of the eyeball all the way around the iris.

A psychologist once told me that if you see someone with this symptom, even if it is only for a few minutes, that the person is out of control and might be considered temporarily insane and cannot respond to reason.

We were discussing the actions of my now “ex” wife when she flew into a rage.


49 posted on 12/17/2012 7:08:41 AM PST by wildbill (You're just jealous because the Voices talk only to me.)
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To: Ken522

Shame! That’s profiling.


50 posted on 12/17/2012 7:22:25 AM PST by existentially_kuffer
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