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The Life and Wars of General Curtis LeMay
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Posted on 12/25/2012 2:03:49 PM PST by virgil283

"...I was surprised to find out that LeMay wasn’t at all the man I thought he was … and I didn’t think he got a fair shake in history. Here is a man who has been marginalized and even vilified as this mad bomber yearning for a nuclear exchange with the Soviets. Hollywood helped solidify that negative image with Dr. Strangelove ..and he became a favorite target for journalists beginning in the 1960s. In truth, the real LeMay couldn’t have been further from the crazy brute that he’s been made out to be. He was a sober, strategic realist, who cared deeply for the men who served under him and for the country he defended. LeMay was perhaps the most brilliant military strategist this nation has ever produced – not my words but those of the late Robert S. McNamara. And LeMay was brave. He put his own life at risk insisting on flying the lead bomber on every dangerous mission over Europe. He was one of the most influential factors in our victory in the Pacific Theater. And if that weren’t enough, LeMay had a third act that equaled the first two, helping to win the Cold War by turning the Strategic Air Command into the most efficient and deadliest military force in history that kept the Soviets in check for decades. .... ..On his very first mission, LeMay ordered everyone to fly straight in with no deviation so they could hit the targets. The men were horrified. One pilot stood up at the pre-flight briefing and said they’d all be slaughtered. LeMay looked straight at him and, showing the most brilliant form of leadership, simply said: “No, I think we can take it and to prove it, I’ll fly the lead plane.”

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To: Kent1957
Wallace was a populist and racial moderate of that time [1968].

He moderated later, though. His '63-'67 term as governor included the "segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!" inauguration speech. This was the term where he stood in the doorway at the University of Alabama to prevent black students from enrolling.

Kennedy then federalized the Alabama National Guard in order to have the necessary force to make him do the right thing, so Wallace's action was another case of misusing conservative principles (state sovereignty) in an execrable cause. As usually happens, this allows liberals to shred these principles so they're not available when we need them.

Segregationists delayed my embrace of conservative truths for more than a decade. So in the late seventies, while Wallace was already taking actions to be proud of due to his change of heart, I was still voting for liberals. So you can see why I would be bitter about this. :-)

41 posted on 12/25/2012 5:45:56 PM PST by InMemoriam
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To: virgil283

LeMay Ping


42 posted on 12/25/2012 5:54:42 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: 98ZJ USMC

It isn’t uncommon for someone with a genius for military matters to be foolish in politics. I started in TAC, not SAC, but LeMay was a great general. Unhappily, he wouldn’t last 30 minutes in today’s politicized military - but God knows we need men like him.

Given the moral course of this country, though, I don’t see any change likely ahead. I spent 20 years cheerfully recommending the military to others. By the end of my 25, I had to stop. Now I recommend against it. And it breaks my heart to say so...


43 posted on 12/25/2012 6:00:03 PM PST by Mr Rogers (America is becoming California, and California is becoming Detroit. Detroit is already hell.)
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To: Mr Rogers

I’m with you, Mr. Rogers. It was like a mantra with me: “Going nowhere? Want to make something of yourself? Join the military.” No more.


44 posted on 12/25/2012 6:17:54 PM PST by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: virgil283

LeMay has been one of my heros for years. His ideas would have turned Korea into a victory rather than a constant threat and stale mate. Vietnam would have been a victory rather than a loss. We would have won the cold war many years earlier. Terrorists would have been afraid to attack us.

Plus; he loved good cigars :-)


45 posted on 12/25/2012 6:30:28 PM PST by logic101.net (How many children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
So the Soviets told their American traitors to destroy LeMay with character assassination.

And that's what they and their "progressive" successors have done and are still doing. Prime example: Sen. Joseph McCarthy.

46 posted on 12/25/2012 6:32:04 PM PST by Bernard Marx
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To: arthurus

Thanks for putting this one up. I never thought much about LeMay. Now I must find a good biography and some more.

There was a great bio on LeMay in Cigar Magazine (now defunct) a couple years ago.


47 posted on 12/25/2012 6:36:12 PM PST by logic101.net (How many children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: InMemoriam

“segregation now, segregation tomorrow, segregation forever!”

I believe Wallace was a Dimacrat. In fact it was the Dims that tried to block all civil rights legislation in the 60’s. This includes Algore’s daddy and Bill Clinton’s mentor.

So how exactly did LeMay’s run with Wallace keep you away from Conservatives for a decade? This does not compute....


48 posted on 12/25/2012 6:43:57 PM PST by logic101.net (How many children must die on the alter of "gun free zones"?)
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To: virgil283

Bookmarked. Great thread. More winter reading, thanks.


49 posted on 12/25/2012 7:45:09 PM PST by SueRae (It isn't over. In God We Trust.)
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To: logic101.net

Although the thread is about LeMay, I was responding only to the statement that Wallace was a moderate on race in the ‘60s. I tried to take LeMay out of it by quoting the statement I was responding to, but just so I am absolutely clear, I was only talking about Wallace.

(In fact, one of the pleasant discoveries I made in my journey out of liberalism was your point that segregation was overthrown primarily by Republicans following Declaration principles.)


50 posted on 12/25/2012 7:48:08 PM PST by InMemoriam
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To: InMemoriam
Segregationists delayed my embrace of conservative truths for more than a decade. So in the late seventies, while Wallace was already taking actions to be proud of due to his change of heart, I was still voting for liberals. So you can see why I would be bitter about this.

What did segregation have to do with conservative truths? And did the liberals you voted for include Sen. J. William Fulbright (D-Ark.)? This champion of the Communist-appeasing Left was a hard-core segregationist.

51 posted on 12/25/2012 7:51:40 PM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Fiji Hill

Not much. Remember there was no lively conservative media then, so I only had the MSM to learn from while growing up. They called segregationists conservatives, like they now paint fraudulent bankers as conservatives. And they distorted any actual useful conservative principles like State Sovereignty, by pointing only to the abuses such as segregation. I hope you don’t think I am blind to the follies of my youth.


52 posted on 12/25/2012 8:11:36 PM PST by InMemoriam
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To: InMemoriam

I imagine your journey makes you more perceptive than most conservatives out there.


53 posted on 12/25/2012 9:10:26 PM PST by KC Burke (Plain Conservative opinions and common sense correction for thirteen years. RSC)
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To: GreyFriar

Thanks for the ping. General LeMay was a brilliant strategist during and after the Second World War. This country owes him a large debt of gratitude which it doesn’t want to acknowledge.


54 posted on 12/25/2012 10:22:46 PM PST by zot
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To: iowamark
"LeMay disgraced himself in 1968 by running as the VP candidate of racist George Wallace" ....The article this is linked to explained why the G. W. prez. campaign debacle.
55 posted on 12/26/2012 8:57:09 AM PST by virgil283 ( "He is proud, knowing nothing, but doting about questions and strifes of words, whereof cometh envy)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks virgil283.


56 posted on 12/27/2012 4:06:00 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2972215/posts?page=9#9


57 posted on 12/27/2012 4:11:01 PM PST by SunkenCiv (Romney would have been worse, if you're a dumb ass.)
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To: SkyDancer

Try his autobiography - it’s even better.


58 posted on 12/27/2012 5:39:34 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

I think it was his autobiography I read.


59 posted on 12/27/2012 6:04:02 PM PST by SkyDancer (Live your life in such a way that the Westboro church will want to picket your funeral.)
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To: SkyDancer

“Mission With LeMay”?


60 posted on 12/28/2012 11:07:37 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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