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Boehner won’t commit to gun-control votes
yahoo ^ | 12/20/12 | Oliver Knox

Posted on 12/25/2012 2:04:45 PM PST by RC one

Republican House Speaker John Boehner said on Thursday that he would take any recommendations from Vice President Joe Biden’s anti-gun violence commission “under advisement”—but stopped well short of committing to allow the House of Representatives to vote on gun-control measures.

When asked at a press conference if he would permit the House to vote on proposals from Biden’s commission, which began work on Thursday and is expected to unveil its advice in January, he said: “We’ll certainly take them into consideration. We join the president in mourning the victims of that horrible tragedy in Connecticut.” When asked again, he said they will take them under "advisement."

Biden's commission is also expected to look at other ideas, such as increasing access to mental health care, and look at the place of violence in American popular culture. But, for now at least, Boehner's comments suggest that traditional gun-control proposals aren't going anywhere.

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TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; secondamendment
All eyes are on you Mr. Speaker. Tread carefully.
1 posted on 12/25/2012 2:04:49 PM PST by RC one
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To: RC one

He should say that he will consider bringing it up after Harry Reid brings forward a budget.


2 posted on 12/25/2012 2:07:33 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: RC one

Boner better just say “no.”


3 posted on 12/25/2012 2:10:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Biden and Kohl are the guys who pushed the Gun Free Zone legislation through the Senate.

That's why these kids got shot.

Best bet is to push this down Biden's throat.

4 posted on 12/25/2012 2:14:36 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Biden and Kohl are the guys who pushed the Gun Free Zone legislation through the Senate.

That's why these kids got shot.

Best bet is to push this down Biden's throat.

5 posted on 12/25/2012 2:14:54 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
WhiteHouse.gov Petition: Establish gun-free zone around pResident, send Secret Service home
6 posted on 12/25/2012 2:27:41 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Democracy is indispensable to socialism. The goal of socialism is communism." --Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Cicero

I think on an issue like this, he needs to carefully consider his constituency. Ohio has a large population of extremely conservative firearms enthusiast. Though they are most concentrated in the rural districts, they still make up enough of Boehner’s base that he has to consider them.


7 posted on 12/25/2012 2:29:07 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one

Of course he won’t. Would you?

For once Boehner has dome something intelligent.


8 posted on 12/25/2012 2:31:53 PM PST by upchuck (America's at an awkward stage. Too late to work within the system, too early to shoot the bastards.)
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To: RC one

Boehner and the Republicans need to man up and stand up for the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Knock off that “reach across the aisle to the commies” BS. That’s not reaching across the aisle, it’s called surrender.


9 posted on 12/25/2012 2:40:00 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (U.S. elections have become nothing but another cheap ripoff of American Idol.)
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To: upchuck

I would have gone a step further and committed to not allowing gun control to come up for a vote. Then again, by playing it this way, he has rekindled many a fire in many a belly. He better be careful that fire doesn’t burn out of control though.


10 posted on 12/25/2012 2:47:56 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one

Sorry, but bonehead will wimp out.

It is his sorry and inglorious tradition.


11 posted on 12/25/2012 2:54:36 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: Da Coyote

It isn’t up to Bohner much as the last vote on the fiscal cliff. Bohner doesn’t have the votes. Just let Obama take us over the cliff and dream about inroads to the 2a another day.


12 posted on 12/25/2012 3:16:06 PM PST by eyedigress ((zOld storm chaser from the west)/?)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

He won’t.

He got played on the fiscal cliff, and has little wiggle room. A nice non committal response is the best we can hope for.

In the end though, I expect a grab, not just a ban. The left has the wind at their backs, and wants to push their agenda as far as they can. Boehner and the GOPe leadership are looking to re-brand themselves, and I expect this issue to be on they are looking at dumping.

By all of the actions since the election, the only group they will go to the mattress for is the wealthy. Which is ironically the only group in their base which they can afford to anger some.


13 posted on 12/25/2012 3:16:23 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RC one

There is a reason 0 dumped the gun issue into Bumbling Biden’s lap...because if it fails he can cast the blame onto his resident idiot.


14 posted on 12/25/2012 3:18:15 PM PST by RetSignman ("A Republic if you can keep it"....)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Let him bring it to the floor for a vote so we can see who votes for it.


15 posted on 12/25/2012 3:38:27 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The one thing that Hollywood gets right about guns is that crminals will always get them.)
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To: redgolum

No, the wealthy have seen the writing on the wall by now. They need us as much as we need them. We must all hang together or we’ll most assuredly all hang separately. Boehner needs to rebuild the coalition-bring us together-not kill us off with the death of a thousand cuts.


16 posted on 12/25/2012 4:06:07 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one

I look more towards a Presidential Edict given the current resident of the White Hut.


17 posted on 12/25/2012 4:11:11 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Hey Newbomb, where's your brothers ElCamino ?)
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To: RC one
Replace John Boehner with Allen West!
18 posted on 12/25/2012 4:23:33 PM PST by Baynative
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To: Baynative

I don’t see that happening. I would follow West into the bowel’s of hell though.


19 posted on 12/25/2012 4:34:46 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one

I hope Boehner knows just how close we are to a series of unfortunate events. It would be imprudent to infringe on our God-given right to keep and bear arms when tyranny is such an immediate threat to our freedom and to our lives. He should just say “no” to a vote on this unconstitutional power grab.


20 posted on 12/25/2012 4:34:56 PM PST by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: Newbomb Turk

I would prefer that. such an order would be illegal and nobody could be compelled to follow it.


21 posted on 12/25/2012 4:45:49 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: Pollster1

I tend to agree. He’s flirting with disaster by allowing this situation develop as it is. It would be much healthier for everyone if he just dumped a pale of water on this fire.


22 posted on 12/25/2012 4:48:54 PM PST by RC one (From My Cold Dead Hands.)
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To: RC one
Boehner will want to make sure he retains one gun for himself in case Obama commands him to commit suicide
23 posted on 12/25/2012 5:00:14 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama's birth certificate was found stapled to Soros's receipt.)
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To: RC one

It will be interesting to publish the names of every senator and representative who votes in favor of any violation of our Second Amendment, including any such violation in any irrelevant bill. It will be interesting to publish it a thousand times.


24 posted on 12/25/2012 5:01:22 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: RC one

thomas.loc.gov


25 posted on 12/25/2012 5:03:32 PM PST by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: familyop
It will be interesting to publish the names of every senator and representative who votes in favor of any violation of our Second Amendment, including any such violation in any irrelevant bill. It will be interesting to publish it a thousand times.

Rest assured, the names will be published. The anti-2nd Amendment politicians can hide in their leftist enclaves, but those in flyover country will feel the repercussions of their idiocy.

26 posted on 12/25/2012 5:11:05 PM PST by Alaska Wolf (Carry a Gun, It's a Lighter Burden Than Regret)
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To: RC one

He tried playing Rino bigfoot after the election and smashed his own head with bullying conservatives and managing to propose a budget rejected by his own side.

He needs to go. He can’t communicate a popular point of view nor coordinate a message for the public to hear. We don’t need four years of evil versus stupid.


27 posted on 12/25/2012 5:15:53 PM PST by SaraJohnson
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To: RC one

Here is the thing.

If you look at the polling data, a lot of the so called 1% are liberal. The only object to having to pay more money for their own policies.

The GOP is going to the mattresses to protect them, and that isn’t playing very well with the rest of the nation. In two years, when the adds come back out, how do you think that will play?
The GOP has been turning its back on social conservatives for some time now. Look at Newt saying that we need to “accept” gay marriage. They are doing so to build a coalition of voters. Yet they are actively killing that coalition by chasing the the carrot Obama is laying out right off the cliff.

If they want to win again, which I honestly doubt, the GOP needs to decided which group of voters will help them more. They have decided to jettison their social conservative base, and are looking to stab gun owners in the back. That leaves those who make over $500,000, who they are willing to crash the government to protect.

How many votes are those?


28 posted on 12/25/2012 5:41:55 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: redgolum
We have this problem where the theory underlying telephone opinion polls has collapsed. Some of the old timers like Gingrich and Romney are having a difficult time getting beyond the good old days where most polls, most of the time, were pret' near if not totally correct ~

I think they don't know enough about statistical analysis to understand what's happened.

29 posted on 12/25/2012 5:45:10 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Then they need to go. Now. Or a new party needs to arise.

And quick.


30 posted on 12/25/2012 5:48:23 PM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: RC one

With any luck that POS won’t controlling anything in the House after Jan 3rd.


31 posted on 12/25/2012 5:55:51 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: RC one

I wouldn’t mind bring some of this stuff up for a vote. It would be GREAT to see the Dems in competitive districts have to go on the record...and nothing will pass anyway.


32 posted on 12/25/2012 6:48:25 PM PST by BobL (Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21...Agenda 21... (whatever the hell that is))
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To: RC one

time for Boehner bashing again ?

Merry Christmas


33 posted on 12/25/2012 7:20:02 PM PST by mike_9958
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To: RC one

Oh, I think he should have some votes. Lets get some democrats on record as voting to ban semiautomatic rifles!


34 posted on 12/25/2012 7:52:14 PM PST by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: RC one

he will cave and give o whatever he wants


35 posted on 12/25/2012 7:59:15 PM PST by 1st Division guy
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To: RC one
The Weeper of the House is always mindful of politics and what the propaganda media are going to say about him. He is gutless and will refuse to remark appropriately - "HANDS OFF THE 2BD AMENDMENT - NOTHING TO DISCUSS. Now on to the subject of mental health and violence in the entertainment culture."
36 posted on 12/25/2012 8:00:12 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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