Posted on 01/11/2013 11:43:47 AM PST by pabianice
Need the help of some Freeper historian.
Over at DumpsterUndergeound, an "historian" is on a tear about guns. He claims that Hitler actually liberalized gun laws in Germany, allowing Germans to buy guns after the Treaty of Versailles had disarmed Germany. He then claims that disarming the Jews was actually a kindness in that it reduced their killings because the Jews couldn't fight back.
I know that DU is psychotic, but I need some historical facts about what actually happened to German gun rights after 1933.
http://www.stephenhalbrook.com/registration_article/registration.html
Why do you bother? I applaud your desire to understand the “other side” and their arguments, but The post you linked to had all the hallmarks of a brainless leftist - vague references to supposed “facts,” and obsession with Nazis, and of course, a vulgar comment about Jesus and sex. Their political arguments always end with some kind of obscene sexual comment, without fail.
This type of degraded thinking is remarkably uniform among them
That's the most ridiculous reasoning I have ever heard. (not directed at you, Pab)
Note in Sept. 1938 the Nazi's outlawed "Jewish Gun Merchants".
The Jews had guns, they just did not believe what was happening to them was actually happening.
Thanks for letting us know about the Stormfront types on DU.
He then claims that disarming the Jews was actually a kindness in that it reduced their killings because the Jews couldn't fight back
Bump #2, that pretty much covers it.
The Jews had guns, they just did not believe what was happening to them was actually happening.”
...they still don’t get it.
“Antisemitism and the persecution of Jews were central tenets of Nazi ideology. In their 25-point party program published in 1920, Nazi party members publicly declared their intention to segregate Jews from “Aryan” society and to abrogate their political, legal, and civil rights.”
Today's version goes like this:
Democrat party members have as their intention to segregate the people from the Constitution and to abrogate their political, legal, and civil rights.
Seek out those who have not yet been fully assimilated and encourage them to seek the truth. Always move towards higher ground and back away from those who refuse to acknowledge history and engage in a logical debate.
More it reduced how long it took to kill them.
Anyone anywhere who dares try to rationalize what hitler, (may he burn in endless agony for all of eternity,) did to the Jews AND others is as insane as hitler was and as full of irrational hatred as the nazis who agreed with him...and they bear watching. Closely.
Juat making it up as they go along, I suppose.
Don't put words in my mouth with your misinterpretations of what I said. Prior to 1933, Jews (in Germany)had the same rights as all Germans, because they were Germans in the eyes of the law.
Thus I could have said: "The Germans had guns..."
Does that mean "most Germans were heavily armed"? No, It means some Germans had guns, some did not. The Jews had the same rights to guns as did all Germans.
"Stupefied"? -- That is again an assumption on your part. Go the the Holocaust Museum in DC, or read Metaxas book on Bonhoeffer, both are good sources of information on the subject. Even many of the Germans at the time (1933-1938 did not believe what was happening, but that does not mean they were "stupified"
Liberals/Socialist really are crazy. They act like we don’t know history.
The Wehrmacht banned all guns in 1928. In 1934, the Nazis used gun control to jail any ‘dissenters’ who opposed their regime. In 1938, they removed some of the gun control restrictions for the NAZI PARTY and banned all weapons for the Jews.
And then Kristallnacht happened a few months later.
Socialists behave like Socialists no matter what country or era they come from.
It is an excellent book, very informative of an insiders look at Germany and actions taken by anti-Hitler Germans.
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