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Sen. Rand Paul will deliver the real message, as RINO Rubio delivers the GOP-e boilerplate message
2/11/2013 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 02/11/2013 11:29:28 AM PST by Laissez-faire capitalist

Yep, Sen. Rand Paul - some Libertarian leanings and all - (and not all bad, either, especially with his middle of the road approach on foreign policy, him being neither interventionist nor isolationist) is certainly not a shill for the GOP-e... and we have had enough of that.

Rand Paul will deliver the Tea Party, while Rubio gives us Dem lite.


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KEYWORDS: 113th; 2012; bhosotu; democrats; elections; gopresponse; marcorubio; obama; randpaul; rinofreeamerica; rinorubio; rubio; teaparty
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To: GeronL

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21 posted on 02/11/2013 12:06:16 PM PST by Bryan
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To: Longbow1969
Your apparent need to gratuitously insult Ron Paul, suggests that you have not read very extensively among the writings of the Founding Fathers. Ron Paul, of all those in Congress over the last two decades, has been the most consistent advocate of traditional American values.

He is also the most knowledgeable on modern Conservative economic theory (Von Mises, etc.). Do you have any idea how destructive the monetary policies, over the past decade, have been? Do you believe that all those in Congress who signed on to his bill to audit the Fed were "wackadoodles?"

William Flax

22 posted on 02/11/2013 12:07:30 PM PST by Ohioan
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To: Bryan

Bryan, listen to me. You could not be more wrong with a capital R. Though they may all look alike to you, they don’t to each other. No Cuban has a chance of getting votes from Mexicans or Colombians or Argentians in this country. Your lack of knowledge on this very basic premise is emblematic of the way in which Republicans choose to remain ignorant about a subject they should know up and down. And sideways. Do some research. Figure it out.


23 posted on 02/11/2013 12:15:50 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Bryan

Bryan, listen to me. You could not be more wrong with a capital R. Though they may all look alike to you, they don’t to each other. No Cuban has a chance of getting votes from Mexicans or Colombians or Argentians in this country. Your lack of knowledge on this very basic premise is emblematic of the way in which Republicans choose to remain ignorant about a subject they should know up and down. And sideways. Do some research. Figure it out.


24 posted on 02/11/2013 12:16:24 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Bryan

Bryan, listen to me. You could not be more wrong with a capital R. Though they may all look alike to you, they don’t to each other. No Cuban has a chance of getting votes from Mexicans or Colombians or Argentians in this country. Your lack of knowledge on this very basic premise is emblematic of the way in which Republicans choose to remain ignorant about a subject they should know up and down. And sideways. Do some research. Figure it out.


25 posted on 02/11/2013 12:16:32 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Bryan

Bryan, listen to me. You could not be more wrong with a capital R. Though they may all look alike to you, they don’t to each other. No Cuban has a chance of getting votes from Mexicans or Colombians or Argentians in this country. Your lack of knowledge on this very basic premise is emblematic of the way in which Republicans choose to remain ignorant about a subject they should know up and down. And sideways. Do some research. Figure it out.


26 posted on 02/11/2013 12:16:32 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Bryan

Bryan, listen to me. You could not be more wrong with a capital R. Though they may all look alike to you, they don’t to each other. No Cuban has a chance of getting votes from Mexicans or Colombians or Argentians in this country. Your lack of knowledge on this very basic premise is emblematic of the way in which Republicans choose to remain ignorant about a subject they should know up and down. And sideways. Do some research. Figure it out.


27 posted on 02/11/2013 12:16:44 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Bryan

Bryan, listen to me. You could not be more wrong with a capital R. Though they may all look alike to you, they don’t to each other. No Cuban has a chance of getting votes from Mexicans or Colombians or Argentians in this country. Your lack of knowledge on this very basic premise is emblematic of the way in which Republicans choose to remain ignorant about a subject they should know up and down. And sideways. Do some research. Figure it out.


28 posted on 02/11/2013 12:16:48 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: Ohioan
Your apparent need to gratuitously insult Ron Paul

Gratuitously insult Ron Paul? Ron Paul deserves EVERY insult and then some. This is the Ron Paul that just trashed Chris Kyle, an American hero, in a despicable twitter post. This is the same Ron Paul who said Bradley Manning, the traitor with gender issues, was a hero and patriot. The list of wacky things Ron Paul has said is extremely long, and the loony followers that seem to collect around the cult of Ron Paul are even worse. Ron Paul is loopy libertarian nutcase. There is a reason his son is trying to put distance between himself and his father.

29 posted on 02/11/2013 12:26:21 PM PST by Longbow1969
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I’m pleased that Rubio is doing the response. He is very well-spoken and can state things clearly. That is a lost-art on our side. Which in today’s world, whether we like it or not, is a big part of winning.


30 posted on 02/11/2013 12:30:24 PM PST by justice14 ("Christ is Victorious" / @rjustice21)
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To: Theoria

Yes..I am confusing Rand with Ru.

Thanks for correction.


31 posted on 02/11/2013 12:32:29 PM PST by Cletus.D.Yokel (*Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alteration: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: kabumpo

Valid points. South Florida Latins are a mixed bunch. The GOP may have lost the Cuban vote forever. But the GOP is to blame...not Latins.


32 posted on 02/11/2013 12:36:50 PM PST by rrrod (at home in Medellin Colombia)
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To: kabumpo

Let’s see ... who got a higher percentage of the non-Cuban Latino vote in Florida three months ago?

Rubio, or Romney?

Hint: it wasn’t Romney.


33 posted on 02/11/2013 12:42:31 PM PST by Bryan
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; All

Rubio’s seems to forget his folks came crossing a regulated border protecting the soverignty of the United states and still is. They came across to become citizens of the United States but do those illegally crossing through the Mexican border have the same intent ? Poll after poll suggest not.

When is the treatment of American citizens in Mexico and their rights vs US treatment of Mexicans going to be an issue when we discuss amnesty ? What makes it necessary for US to subjugate our sovereignty because of available cheap labor ?

Ever hear of reciprocal aggrements ? These are arranged to protect the rights of American citizens working or living in other countries.

Why is it when it comes to citizens of other countries we are required to offer them the same privledges as we do to US citizens? But when it comes to US citizens who get in trouble or attempt to do business in other countries they do not get the same treatment their citizens get.

Americans can’t own coast land in Mexico. And get no title to it elsewhere. If they run out of cash they’ll get unceremoniously sent back or put in jail untill some relative comes up with the “fresh”. That’s just for starters as for granting them voting privledges yea let’s give Mexican citizens that right when American citizens vote in their elections .

Reagan tried that on the promise that border would have integrity it never happened. It didn’t work remember ?

All....Does anybody remember what the Democrats did at their convention ??? First they eliminated any mention of the word GOD...and when they thought twice about doing that they reintroduced the resolution what happened ? They booed God....That resolution was rammed through just like the Affordable Health Care Act ...
Was that fact used in any of the material Rove’s RINOS spewed forth during the 2012 Romney or US senate races his group of GOPES (Government Ofthe People Elite Snobs) used on their hit list ? I like using that abbreviation because it rhymes with dopes.

Noooo ! They could have used that episode to point out how far to the left the democrat party has hyphenated into; Demo-Coms ...Instead well we don’t like Aikin at least he believes in something like the ten commandments. Including Thou shalt not steal and doesn’t believe that getting elected office doesn’t give you a license to do that. Which his opponent seems to have done rather well since being in office. The same thing with Mourdock.

These people I call them GOPES because it rhymes with dopes right now are falling into the same trap. Limbaugh and Levin, God bless them ...realize that what Limbaugh calls the LIV’s (low intelligence voters) actually believe that Obama is offering the proverbial “olive branch” to Republicans when actually he is proceeding on his path to complete socialism. AND THEY CAN’T CALL HIM A LIAR .

This administration came up with a policy on energy which had driven up the cost on everything. It was on the tongue of every black, white. yellow,and brown skined person living in the US....IT WENT UNTOUCHED in the 2012 campaign....WORSE YET IT IS STILL GOING UNCHALLANGED

Now the GOPES are buying into the “demographic” argument offered by the MSM. Here you have an issue staring at them straight in the face affecting every man,woman,and child of every skin color and you can’t bring it up and they talk about “demographics” being pushed by the socialist media .

They should be decrying the philosphy of “demographics” by stating they’re Americans first not Afro-Americans. not Hispanic-Americans and not-Asian-Americans, or “White”-Americans. The counter charge should be these are socialist tactics neing pushed by the hypenated Demo-coms. Democrats in socialist/fascist clothing. Let alone not mention the booing of God’s name during their convention then belittle those Republicans who express a religious conviction even to the point of suggesting that those that do shouldn’t run for political office.


34 posted on 02/11/2013 12:50:49 PM PST by mosesdapoet ("It's a sin to tell a lie", in telling others that , got me my nickname .Ex Chi" mechanic"ret)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist; raybbr

I am of hispanic ancestry, and I do speak Spanish as a second language, as do many folks of all ethnicities in south Texas. There isn’t a liberal in my family that I know of-we wholeheartedly disapprove of illegals-and no, I don’t care if that is not PC...

I don’t have a problem with Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz or anyone else using Spanish or any other language in a speech, as long as they do it in English, too. George W. Bush spoke quite passable Spanish-the current occupant of the WH can’t even speak a second language at all...

I think both men are admirable supporters of smaller government that does not dispense health care, is not involved in the lives of private citizens, is not trying to take my guns from the cabinet, or in the doings of private businesses-I just pray they stay in charge of their own cojones over the long haul, and are not tempted by lobbyists or special interest groups with lots of money-we need to keep reminding them that we all vote, whatever our ethnic background is...


35 posted on 02/11/2013 12:52:29 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Texan5
I don’t have a problem with Marco Rubio, Ted Cruz or anyone else using Spanish or any other language in a speech, as long as they do it in English, too. George W. Bush spoke quite passable Spanish-the current occupant of the WH can’t even speak a second language at all...

I don't care how many languages he speaks - or doesn't. Speaking in spanish is an insult to all the Germans, Irish, Polish, Chinese, etc who came here and would like to hear the speech in their language. What makes spanish so special?

36 posted on 02/11/2013 1:19:44 PM PST by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron.)
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To: raybbr; Laissez-faire capitalist; fieldmarshaldj; Impy; sickoflibs
>> Rubio will also be addressing la raza - in their native tongue. <<

Good thing we have Rand Paul to refute it... oh wait... Rand Paul wants to carve a compromise immigration plan with an “eventual path” to citizenship for illegal immigrants

37 posted on 02/11/2013 1:53:14 PM PST by BillyBoy ( Impeach Obama? Yes We Can!)
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To: Gumdrop
GOP - Grow up! I am sick of seeing people on this forum being petty and divisive

That will get us hillary in 2016 for sure.

38 posted on 02/11/2013 1:59:51 PM PST by jersey117
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To: raybbr

Not a thing, except that Spanish and French are pretty much the only second languages spoken among a large group of native born Americans several generations away from their ancestral country anymore, but French and Spanish were more widely used than English until a few centuries ago.

My husband’s family was three generations removed from Quebec, and spoke Canadian French as a second language, along with a lot of other people in states that share a border with Canada. Damn near everyone of any French ancestry in Lousiana speaks Acadian (cajun) French just like we speak Spanish in the Mexican border states, even though they are hundreds of miles and about 300 years from Canada.

Of course English is the language of America, but many of us learned either at home or at school to speak a second one. In the far past, it was considered a mark of good breeding and education, and furthered one’s career and social ambitions. Call it a snob value that has persisted, but I think any world leader should at least be somewhat conversant in a second language-although I understand that Mandarin Chinese is a bad choice because of the many nuances.

If a bunch of people want a speech read in Chinese, German or Polish, I don’t see why it shouldn’t be, There might be some problems with the Irish, though-not many people speak Gaelic.


39 posted on 02/11/2013 2:13:44 PM PST by Texan5 ("You've got to saddle up your boys, you've got to draw a hard line"...)
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To: Theoria
We shall see. I expect Rand and Rubio to both vote for amnesty.

Interesting point. I much prefer Rand to Rubio, but I shall watch. Rand is saying a lot of good things, but, you're right, the amnesty vote will be telling.

40 posted on 02/11/2013 5:19:47 PM PST by BfloGuy (Money, like chocolate on a hot oven, was melting in the pockets of the people.)
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