Posted on 04/29/2013 3:56:22 PM PDT by Kartographer
Argentina is going through the classic stages of economic collapse.
The government seized all pensions. They are destroying everything that gives the people incentive to be a society that emerges from the cooperation of everyone.
When government turns against its own people, even as the USA is currently doing, you end up with deflation insofar as the economy collapses and wages are not available, while hoarding emerges as does barter.
source: Martin Armstrong
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>> “You will never go home. Courtesy of FEMA” <<
.If, that is, if you accept the “mark of the Beast.”
(probably a ‘chip.’)
>> “The inner city ones will stay in the inner city and kill each other off.” <<
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If the power is down and “mass transit” isn’t working they’ll have no choice. But if MT is running the suburbs will be over-run rapidly. Rural areas, not so quickly. Most people can cover about 5 - 6 miles per day max.
Some of the things they have been doing are the exact opposite of what they should be doing. Strike that, pretty much everything they are doing are that way
>> “ In the USA, many people will starve within a month of the grocery stores closing. Many more will not survive a winter.” <<
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3 1/2 years is what you have to go, and the only way to do that is to give yourself to Yehovah completely, and not trust in men for anything.
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>> “Some of the things they have been doing are the exact opposite of what they should be doing. Strike that, pretty much everything they are doing are that way” <<
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That’s OK, their chip implant will identify them as FEMA’s own.
No worries!
very few people could go 3 and a half years. Most probably can’t do 3 and a half months.
I now understand feudalism.
lol
right
First and foremost anything that happens or might happen other than a nationwide natural disaster, will not shut down everything and dry up food and fuel supplies overnight. It will be more of a slow motion over a period of months maybe even a year or more, as one thing after another comes to a stop.
Electric power isn’t going to be cut off. There may be disruptions in places, namely cities, but not much in the more rural areas of the country. You can’t run the risk of shutting down a power plant, it’s better to keep it running.
Same way with fuel. There may be disruptions in supply, again mainly in cities, but in the food producing areas there will be fuel. Again, you can’t run the risk of shutting down a refinery and let it sit. It’s better to keep it running. In fact there may actually be a glut of fuel because of reduced economic activity.
You also forget, most farmers will have several hundred to several thousand gallons of fuel on hand for their farming equipment.
One thing that will be in very short supply in the rural areas will be housing.
A lot of people where I am use solar power for their wells to water livestock because power isn’t available were the well is.
Unless you live where you have a very deep well with a low water level pretty much any gen. will run a water pump.
I doubt subsistence farming will work out for one in a thousand city people if they have to start from scratch. It takes about one year to get new ground to produce right and I think that even if they try, very few will even subsist one year. Almost all farmers will be glad to help good people plow and cultivate adequate size gardens to get started but when it comes to the necessary supplies, I can barely afford my own. And there is no rich farmland for the taking or cornucopia of excess food; it’s all spoken for already. I want to let ya’ll know that you better prepare beforehand to have the means to actually produce food on your own because I think those supplies will be very expensive or nonexistent when Hussein’s paradise comes into full bloom. And I should have added some firepower even if you are a gun free zone metrosexual who doesn’t want to end up being some cute darling predators food.
“It does tell us a truth - that truth is, when there is a finite amount of food, people will steal it and not care if you die.”
Yes which is why I said you better get busy. And while you are at it brass and lead should be on the list. There is no better peace of mind than knowing you have enough food to last a year and enough guns and ammo to defend it.
A tiller and some packets of seeds with no skills behind it are just a way to die hopeful.
/johnny
Have a plan and at least two backups for that plan.
I live in a relatively large suburb near cleveland. However, within a mile are at least 4 moderate size parks/reserves. In each of these reserves there are critters and natural vegetation that can be consumed.
One example which is prevelant and most people wouldn’t think twice of are cattails. You can eat the tubers similar to yams or potatoes; the new shoots, simlar to bamboo; or the seed pod, when it’s green like corn on the cob.
Are these foods for comfort - no; but they will allow you to survive and subsist IF absolutely nothing else is available.
But I don’t disagree that many people in the US may starve either because they don’t know, ignorance, or they think it is beneath them, spoiled to the point of stupid.
True!
you hit on the deep well....
~250 feet
There are hand pumps for deep wells. They aren’t cheap, but you can go in the same casing with your other pump so you don’t need to pull the pump to use it.
You aren’t kidding. I tried starting my own seeds last year...Stuck them in some dirt, watered them, and said “grow!” They tried but gave up the ghost in no time.
After watching youtubers and lots of reading up, I’m amazed how different my seedlings are this year. They’re actually starting to grow their true leaves.
I can’t EVEN imagine trying to learn all this and hope for success after any collapse.
Simulation studies have shown people will prop up markets against not just lousy odds but against total certainty of collapse until the actual collapse.
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