Posted on 05/21/2013 9:52:10 AM PDT by Ray76
Ted Cruz was born "Rafael Edward Cruz" December 22, 1970 in Calgary, Alberta, Canada.
His mother is US citizen Eleanor Darragh.
His father is Cuban citizen Rafael B. Cruz. (naturalized as a U.S. citizen in 2005)
Eleanor Darragh and Rafael B. Cruz were residents of Canada for at least four years from 1970, possibly earlier, until 1974. They conducted business there as Rafael B. Cruz and Associates, Ltd.
Where they "permanent residents"?
Is Ted Cruz a "natural born citizen" of Canada?
Revised Statutes of Canada 1970:
There is no reciprocity. You may have heard it expressed as “the world isn’t fair”.
Japan puts up incredible trade barriers to American rice imports. We allow their products straight in.
We offer Mexicans free welfare when they come illegally, and allow them to buy houses, etc.
They arrest Americans who try to live there permanently, and it’s very difficult for you to buy property.
I know it’s amazing, but our immigration laws are not synchronized with other nations. Some recognize dual citizenship, others do not, still others will arrest you for treason for being dual.
Welcome to earth.
And this part is pretty much true. It's self evident that neither the Courts or any other authority cares what is the accurate and correct meaning of the term. This, however, is an academic discussion, and I (speaking for myself) am not at all interested in subsequent points of law or this or that ruling. I am interested in determining what is the Actual truth, which I count as a very different thing than merely the Uneducated Opinion of the courts or the legislature.
The Courts will merely insist on giving us the "Wong" answer.
Your argument has no bearing of the ultimate outcome; Rubio is nbC.
You misunderstand.
I like Cruz. He has an admirable record of accomplishment. He is intelligent and principled, and can articulate those principles. He defends the right of the unborn to their life, he supports border control and immigration enforcement, he supports Austrian economics. None of that has any bearing on Article II eligibility.
So were Slaves and Indians, but they didn't get citizenship until congress passed special laws for them. Again, you can't have "natural" citizenship if someone has to pass a law to give it to you.
Only in the minds of people who do not know better.
I don't think it's impacting Cruz's U.S. citizenship but raising the possibility of dual citizenship. Many people argue that Obama is ineligible on those grounds alone.
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FYI: My son was born in England, and has a British father. I took him to the US Embassy in London when he was a month old to get him registered as a US Citizen. I was given a
The words "natural born" do not occur on any of the explanatory information that I was also given about his situation. My understanding has been that he could not run for POTUS, just as my husband could not play rugby for Wales. But that is not explicitly written anywhere on the official info given to me that day.
And Cruz is exactly right, there only two kinds of citizens...born and Naturalized.
A Natural Born Citizen IS a born citizen,
Cruz can claim born citizenship due to his birth to a citizen mother. He cannot lay claim to Natural Born Citizenship due to his foreign place of birth and his foreign citizen father.
Natural Born citizenship is a quality of born citizenship. One that is required for Holding the office of the President. Cruz does not qualify.....no worries, there are millions and millions more that do.
Rubio meets and passes the test regardless.
His parents were not
1. Foreign heads of States or Diplomats
2. Illegal Foreign occupiers or at war with the US
3. Born on a reservation
4. Committed acts of treasons
That’s just what Hillary Clinton is counting on.
What if Congress passes a law which naturalizes anyone born to a mother with green eyes? Does this make their children "natural born citizens"?
(And please do not come back with "congress would never pass such a law." That is beside the point. Congress HAS the power to pass such a law. The point is whether or not Congress can make "natural born citizen" mean whatever it wants to. )
Each sovereign nation is exactly that ... sovereign. No reciprocity except by agreement between the two parties.
Yes, until legislation excludes them, the anchor babies are unfortunately eligible. I don’t like it a bit. But they are under the jurisdiction of the USA, and are born here. And this is reason number 681 that we need border enforcement.
Were you this concerned with Obama’s citizenship?
Had Congress not passed the citizenship act of 1934, Cruz would have no claim on American citizenship.
It is ridiculous to believe that a term which was codified in 1787 could be modified by a law passed in 1934.
The 14th amendment just makes him a "citizen", not a "natural born citizen." The 14th amendment didn't even work on Indians until congress passed the "Indian citizenship act of 1924." Obviously there are some serious holes in your theory.
Article II specifies “citizen” at the time of adoption of the constitution, and “natural born citizen” thereafter.
“Citizen” necessarily encompasses “naturalized citizen” as well as “natural born citizen”. If a naturalization statute creates “natural born citizens” then there is no need for Art. II’s grandfather clause, “citizen” would have sufficed.
Cruz is a US citizen by US naturalization statute.
Yes. Since September 2008.
Cruz is not a US natural born citizen.
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