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Pat Robertson says birth control ‘very important’ to limit Appalachian ‘ragamuffins’ (Video)
Life Site ^ | Ben Johnson

Posted on 07/31/2013 8:36:12 PM PDT by Morgana

VIRGINIA BEACH, VA, July 31, 2013 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Two days after saying he found nothing sinful about sex-change operations, televangelist Pat Robertson said contraception is “a very important part of humanity” that would prevent the birth of too many Appalachian “ragamuffins.” He also said that Natural Family Planning violated the provisions of the Old Testament.

On today's episode of the 700 Club, a woman asked whether the use of birth control is sinful, something about which Catholics and Protestants disagree.

When Robertson's co-host, Wendy Griffith, said not all families could afford to have multiple children, Robertson replied, “That's the big problem, especially in Appalachia. They don't know about birth control. They just keep having babies.”

“You see a string of all these little ragamuffins, and not enough food to eat and so on,” he said, “and it's desperate poverty.” Pat Robertson discusses NFP on today's 700 Club. Pat Robertson discusses NFP on today's 700 Club.

“I'd say yes, birth control is absolutely an important thing for people to use,” he added, saying contraception “is a very important part of humanity.”

Robertson said that “birth control in the Protestant churches has always been permitted,” because they “feel that the care and rearing of children is a tremendous obligation.”

However, the 83-year-old host had negative words for the Natural Family Planning method. “Our good friends in the Catholic Church forbid the use of birth control but they allow people to use what's called 'rhythm,'” he said at the beginning of his answer. “If you read the Old Testament they were forbidden to have sex while women were having their menstrual period, and the Catholic Church is telling women to do just that, and it's OK.”

The Bible discouraged men from having sexual relations with a woman during her menstrual cycle – or touching her – in Leviticus 15:19-33, a provision taken up by Judaism and Islam.

However, Robertson went on to tell another writer later in the segment that eating pork, which is banned in Leviticus 11:7 and Deuteronomy 14:8, is not a sin.

“Where do people get all these things?” he asked. “This is ridiculous.”

The Protestant Reformers opposed artificial contraception, something not embraced by Protestants until the Anglican Communion's Lamberth Conference in 1930.

Pro-life activists point out that many forms of “birth control” – including the morning after pill, the IUD, and hormonal birth control pill – may cause a chemical abortion by blocking the implantation of a newly conceived child.


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KEYWORDS: 700club; abortion; contraception; pat; patrobertson; prolife; robertson
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To: Morgana

“What a terrible thing to have lost one’s mind. Or not to have a mind at all. How true that is.”

—Dan Quayle


61 posted on 08/01/2013 1:08:21 AM PDT by kaehurowing
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To: dfwgator

hahahahaha!!


62 posted on 08/01/2013 1:58:59 AM PDT by MacMattico
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To: Morgana

“See, Pat Robertson said something stupid too,” posted the defensive Catholic.


63 posted on 08/01/2013 2:04:24 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I think this whole thing is much ado about nothing.


64 posted on 08/01/2013 2:27:51 AM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Morgana

I hate this guy. Bashing Catholics? You jerk!!!! He has caused more crap for Evangelicals than anything positive. He is worthless to all Christians.


65 posted on 08/01/2013 2:45:24 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: beaversmom

Came across the 700 club as that was about the only decent thing on after watching Idiocracy which come to find out is really a documentary on the here and now.

Even as a Catholic, I would watch 700 club 25 years ago when it was inspirational, but Pat has turned into a loon. I just can’t listen to him anymore.


66 posted on 08/01/2013 2:52:01 AM PDT by napscoordinator (Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the Country!)
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To: flaglady47

Pat Robertson has always been outspoken and often controversial. His brain is increasingly disengaged from his tongue as he slips into his dotage, and views that even he once declined to verbalize are getting a public airing.

And it ain’t pretty.

He’s an imperfect, fallen sinner just as we all are. I’m surprised at just how malleable he perceives certain things to be, he doesn’t come across as being all that anchored by scripture, a problem several reputedly Christian figures in the public eye share, including Rick Warren and the current pope, Francis.


67 posted on 08/01/2013 2:53:25 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: POWERSBOOTHEFAN
Eating pork IS a sin. Then Paul came around and altered the eternal Word of God which is meant to be ETERNAL and unchanging in any way shape or form.

Actually, if you read Acts you will see that it was a vision of Peter that led to this change.

68 posted on 08/01/2013 3:30:09 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Morgana

Robertson is just another liberal globalist shill. His 700 Cult is to Christianity like Detroit is to sound fiscal policy


69 posted on 08/01/2013 3:40:13 AM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Difference between George Zimmerman and Al Sharpton is that Sharpton woulda let honky family burn)
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To: ronnietherocket3

I also wonder what his opinion is on eating cheeseburgers. These appear to be prohibited by Ex. 23:19; Ex. 34:26; Deut. 14:21.


This one is hard to understand but i think it has to do with butchering a calf that is still being fed by its mother,

It would be a waste. just like picking squash before it gets big enough to make a meal.

I do not believe it has anything to do with eating meat and drinking milk together.

As far as eating pork, the Bible says it is unclean for the Jews, but if we can be forgiven for all of our other abominations i guess we will probably be forgiven for that also.

Leviticus 15:19-33,
I believe it was considered being ungodly back then, most Christians today would say it was ungodly, the others would just say bloodhound.

Yes i would say that Pat Robertson should retire.


70 posted on 08/01/2013 4:17:01 AM PDT by ravenwolf
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To: Morgana

Somebody needs to give this guy the hook.


71 posted on 08/01/2013 4:18:32 AM PDT by old and tired
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To: Morgana

Pat Robertson needs to be put out to pasture. Has he turned into a DEMOCRAT??


72 posted on 08/01/2013 4:48:42 AM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion......the HUMAN Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Morgana

What’s his FR name?


73 posted on 08/01/2013 4:57:45 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: BeadCounter

He’s wrong. NFP methods exclude sexual intercourse during menstruation. If you’re genuinely interested in NFP, the basic methods are the Billings Ovulation Method, the Creighton Method, and the Sympto-Thermal Method.


74 posted on 08/01/2013 5:07:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (Ask me about the Weiner Wager. Support Free Republic!)
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To: Morgana

He’s senile as heck. Why is he still on television? Starving children in Appalachia was a socialist cause decades ago. I guess it seems like yesterday to Pat.

Keep yourself and your faith with Jesus and the Bible and you won’t ever lose it or be confused or discouraged by senile old codgers who have egos too big to know it is time to retire or the liberal entertainment shysters dialing for mega dollars. Just observe the circus go by and don’t accept it has anything to do with our faith. I bet Pat is driving people in that organization crazy. I would not be feeding them money right now.

We live in interesting times. : (


75 posted on 08/01/2013 6:08:28 AM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: Morgana
Morgana, you wrote: " It bothers me that most protestants will actually listen to him".

May I ask where you got that statistic about "most Protestants"? Sounds to me like you really don't know much about "most Protestants" and who they "listen" to.

By the way, I am Protestant and I don't like being lumped into this group you have defined. Those of us with discernment see Pat Robinson for who he is, DON'T LISTEN to him, and feel sorry for him and a bit ashamed that he continues to appear to speak for Christianity. He is just a human with many faults (as we all are).

I would like to add that as a Christian, I do not look to men or women as my example of who I want to strive to be more like or listen to advice on life choices from.... but instead look to Jesus Christ. I can tell you that I am still far from that goal I strive for, but never-the-less keeping my eye always towards the true Savior instead of false prophets or as I suspect in Robinson's case, prophets who start out meaning well, but loose focus somewhere along the way.

76 posted on 08/01/2013 6:13:59 AM PDT by Apple Pan Dowdy (... as American as Apple Pie)
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To: Morgana

Televangelists: the pro-wrestlers of organized religion.


77 posted on 08/01/2013 6:59:15 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: Apple Pan Dowdy

“Morgana, you wrote: “ It bothers me that most protestants will actually listen to him”.

May I ask where you got that statistic about “most Protestants”? Sounds to me like you really don’t know much about “most Protestants” and who they “listen” to”

Well being that most Catholics are listening to Mother Angelica over at EWTN and not the crap Pat Robertson is spewing out then yes I would say “most protestants”. ALSO The 700 Club is a show by protestants for protestants. Now granted not all protestants watch it, therefor I sad “most protestants”.


78 posted on 08/01/2013 7:11:21 AM PDT by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Okay, thanks for posting this reminder that I need to call today to cancel my monthly donation to CBN. I’ll be sure to cite this, along with the transgender thing, as the reason.


79 posted on 08/01/2013 7:43:15 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
You don’t get to play God

Hmmm.

Many children are born with birth defects that need surgical correction, or they're born premature and need special care.

Are we playing God when we step in and undo/alter what has been made? Did God will these conditions? If so, is it playing God to change these things? What about doomed children born with uncorrectable conditions? Do we just let them suffer? I don't know.

It's a deeply philosophical question. On one extreme, you have the eugenicists that believe they know what works and doesn't work. They're brutally confident.

On the other extreme you have people that believe nature should take its course, that any assistance outside the most basic care goes against God's will or against nature.

It seems to me contraception is somewhere in the reasonable middle.

80 posted on 08/01/2013 8:12:33 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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