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Typhoon Haiyan makes Sandy, Katrina look like weak cousins
Los Angeles Times ^ | 11/08/2013 | Michael Muskal

Posted on 11/08/2013 1:02:51 PM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
Camille hit 212mph straight winds and anemometer at Keesler AFB broke at 245. She wasn't 300 miles across but she was 150 miles across.
21 posted on 11/08/2013 1:33:26 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: SeekAndFind

My prayers go out to everyone affected... I KNOW what it is like.


22 posted on 11/08/2013 1:33:59 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Zuben Elgenubi
Then I’m going to say it again and again and again until you believe me.

Never in a hundred, never in a thousand, never in a million years.

23 posted on 11/08/2013 1:38:49 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: TurboZamboni; Jonty30
Don't you keep up?

Climate Change is the mantra now!

24 posted on 11/08/2013 1:39:31 PM PST by WVKayaker ("Because nothing says "rugged individualism" like heavy-handed big government.../sarc" -Sarah Palin)
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To: LibLieSlayer
To: SeekAndFind Camille hit 212mph straight winds and anemometer at Keesler AFB broke at 245. She wasn't 300 miles across but she was 150 miles across.

I was at Keesler, and left there shortly before Camille hit. It was a bad one.

25 posted on 11/08/2013 1:42:26 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71)
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To: SeekAndFind

I have family in the Philippines. We bought them a stone house on a tall hill but this storm makes me wonder if that will not be enough. :(


26 posted on 11/08/2013 1:42:52 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: TurboZamboni
Last I heard there were 4 dead. Not that I want more, but that’s all for ‘the worst storm ever’ the media have hyped?

People in the Philippines take these storms very seriously because they have them frequently. They don't sit around waiting to blame their upcoming misery on Bush xD
27 posted on 11/08/2013 1:44:03 PM PST by Wanderer99
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016

Depends which side of his mouth he is speaking from!!!!


28 posted on 11/08/2013 2:01:27 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (An Administration of communists, incompetents, and the corrupt ...reminds one of FDR's brain trust.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Few death reported so far. The Philippines will be up and working again before the close of the next news cycle or two..

Here this would drag on for months or years...


29 posted on 11/08/2013 3:34:05 PM PST by montanajoe
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To: Mark17

She was truly awful. Glad you got out!


30 posted on 11/08/2013 3:52:26 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Wanderer99

freeper alex w is in cebu hope he’s ok


31 posted on 11/08/2013 4:51:58 PM PST by sopwith (LIVE FREE OR DIE)
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To: CaptainK

LOTS of good info. here (meteorological forum):

http://www.storm2k.org/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=76&t=115958&start=1240

I tracked the thing throughout: This storm is at the very top of the list, for sure. Unbelievable satellite images; virtually a true “perfect storm” just before it hit. The so-called “ADT” (Dvorak) chart only goes to 8.0, our Navy (JTWC) pegged Haiyan for a while at 8.1.


32 posted on 11/09/2013 12:29:38 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: montanajoe
I'm afraid that's going to change. I pulled the following by one of the "typhoon chasers" from my wife's Facebook acct.:

First off, Tacloban City is devastated. The city is a horrid landscape of smashed buildings and completely defoliated trees, with widespread looting and unclaimed bodies decaying in the open air. The typhoon moved fast and didn't last long-- only a few hours-- but it struck the city with absolutely terrifying ferocity. At the height of the storm, as the wind rose to a scream, as windows exploded and as our solid-concrete downtown hotel trembled from the impact of flying debris, as pictures blew off the walls and as children became hysterical, a tremendous storm surge swept the entire downtown. Waterfront blocks were reduced to heaps of rubble. In our hotel, trapped first-floor guests smashed the windows of their rooms to keep from drowning and screamed for help, and we had to drop our cameras and pull them out on mattresses and physically carry the elderly and disabled to the second floor. Mark's leg was ripped open by a piece of debris and he'll require surgery. The city has no communication with the outside world. The hospitals are overflowing with the critically injured. The surrounding communities are mowed down. After a bleak night in a hot, pitch-black, trashed hotel, James, Mark, and I managed to get out of the city on a military chopper and get to Cebu via a C-130-- sitting next to corpses in body bags. Meteorologically, Super Typhoon HAIYAN was fascinating; from a human-interest standpoint, it was utterly ghastly. It's been difficult to process.

33 posted on 11/09/2013 12:33:40 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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34 posted on 11/09/2013 12:37:37 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: SeekAndFind

How many billions/trillions do they now print at the Fed to send over there to build them back. The USA will probably be the only nation that does this. All the Arab oil dollars and China will not send a Yen. Only America does this stuff. The Navy is probably sailing there now to assist. We do that you know. This un-Christian nation the Dictator calls us.


35 posted on 11/09/2013 12:39:53 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: Paul R.
As the storm approached... Tacloban is at the NW end of that bay the eye was going into (Leyte Gulf).


36 posted on 11/09/2013 12:46:55 AM PST by Paul R. (We are in a break in an Ice Age. A brief break at that...)
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To: SeekAndFind
Katrina made Sandy look anemic. Sandy got the extra creds because it hit a liberal bastion.

After going through Katrina, I'm in absolute awe of this typhoon - it was more like a huge tornado in power (went through the one that busted up Altus AFB in the early '80s - it looped around my house). Unless folks have been through either/both, they can only guess at it and they will always guess low...

37 posted on 11/09/2013 2:41:57 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Reporters confuse the storm of hype with actual storm strength and intensity. Camille remained a hurricane well inland. i was born over a decade later and I recall that there were still pockets of unrepaired damage in coastal towns, boarded up, with “Camille was here” spraypainted on the boards. The most memorable was the high water marks from the storm surge. I don’t know why but restaurants, hotels and such actually put a line and a measurement there, well up into the second story. Seems like that would be a deterrent to tourism but they did do that.

Sandy was hyped because it hit the northeast. People had no idea what to expect, buildings were very unwisely sited and constructed and the populace is, well, much more prone to complaining. The damage was immense, the whine larger still. The storm wasn’t.

Katrina appeared to be a death blow looming for New Orleans and the Louisiana coast, a Cat 5 but it slowed considerably to a 3 and veered off. I recall because there was a live thread here into the thousands of replies. The narrative was already set, however, and the hype rolled on. New Oreleans flooded, yep. A levee broke, yep. As if that’s never happened before. Damage was far, far worse at Pass Christian, Mississippi but the narrative of poor, downtrodden minorities desperately needing money was more important to the news media.


38 posted on 11/09/2013 3:11:26 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry
I have lived through every hurricane that has hit here in Mississippi since Betsy. Camille was the most severe... over a smaller area and Katrina destroyed almost everything with flood waters. My old family home was destroyed by 10 feet of water in Katrina but water never got close to that house in Camille. I hate every one of these bitches!
39 posted on 11/09/2013 4:35:38 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: trebb

“Katrina made Sandy look anemic. Sandy got the extra creds because it hit a liberal bastion.”

Yea. Ray Nagin, his voters, and the riff raff of Bourbon Street just needed to be a little more liberal, LOL.


40 posted on 11/09/2013 5:09:34 AM PST by ScottfromNJ
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