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Earliest shrine' uncovered at Buddha's birthplace
BBC News and Environment ^ | 25 November 2013 | James Morgan

Posted on 11/26/2013 3:47:06 PM PST by ThanhPhero

They unearthed a 6th Century BC timber structure buried within the Maya Devi Temple at Lumbini in Nepal.

The shrine appears to have housed a tree. This links to the Buddha nativity story - his mother gave birth to him while holding on to a tree branch.

Its discovery may settle the dispute over the birth date of the Buddha, the team reports in the journal Antiquity. Radiocarbon

Every year thousands of Buddhists make a holy pilgrimage to Lumbini - long identified as the birthplace of Siddhartha Gautama, who became the Buddha. Continue reading the main story Lumbini

Located in the south-western Nepali plains 300km from Kathmandu and very close to India's border Birthplace of Siddhartha Gautama, who later become the Buddha Designated a Unesco World Heritage Site in 1997 Surrounded by large zone in which only monasteries can be built and no commercial premises The site has a number of ancient ruins of monasteries, a sacred Bo Tree and a bathing pool

Lumbini: What happened to 'Buddhist Mecca'? Buddhism at a glance

Yet despite the many texts chronicling his life and teachings, it is still uncertain when he lived.

Estimates for his birth stretch as far back as 623 BC, but many scholars believed 390-340 BC a more realistic timeframe.

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.co.uk ...


TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: bhuddism; faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; india; nepal; shrine; siddharthagautama

1 posted on 11/26/2013 3:47:06 PM PST by ThanhPhero
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To: ThanhPhero

Not really interested in that stuff but “gave birth while hanging from a tree” was not that unusual for the time with difficult births. Apparently they did stuff like that all over Asia.


2 posted on 11/26/2013 3:50:22 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: ThanhPhero

Has Hawaii DOH started on a birth certificate for him yet?


3 posted on 11/26/2013 3:51:54 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: ThanhPhero
Every year thousands of Buddhists make a holy pilgrimage to Lumbini - long identified as the birthplace of Siddhartha Gautama, who became the Buddha ...

Good Buddhists don't worship Buddha, nor do they pray to him. He's not a god.

4 posted on 11/26/2013 4:02:26 PM PST by Usagi_yo
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To: Usagi_yo

“Good Buddhists don’t worship Buddha, nor do they pray to him. He’s not a god. “

You are correct. I know several Chinese who believe in Buddhism as a way of life, and believe in Jesus as their savior. They say the two paths are in perfect concordance.


5 posted on 11/26/2013 4:14:29 PM PST by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: GeronL

Gravity is very helpful in delivery. Hanging on to a tree branch, if one is available, makes perfect sense.


6 posted on 11/26/2013 4:15:03 PM PST by Tax-chick (Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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To: Usagi_yo
Accepting his Academy Award for The Killing Fields in 1985, Dr. Haing S. Ngor thanked "my god, Buddha".

This may have been a figure of speech to avoid a lengthy explanation where one wasn't appropriate.

7 posted on 11/26/2013 4:32:57 PM PST by ExGeeEye (The enemy's gate is down...and to the left.)
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To: Tax-chick
I have seen them do that in some of the historical Korean dramas


8 posted on 11/26/2013 5:02:38 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...

Thanks ThanhPhero.

9 posted on 11/26/2013 5:36:13 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: GeronL

Conception involved a magical elephant.


10 posted on 11/26/2013 6:18:55 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

probably more than I need to know already


11 posted on 11/26/2013 6:20:23 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

“One night, Queen Mayadevi dreamed that a white elephant descended from heaven and entered her womb. The white elephant entering her womb indicated that on that very night she had conceived a child who was a pure and powerful being. “

http://www.aboutbuddha.org/english/life-of-buddha.htm/


12 posted on 11/26/2013 6:23:28 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Tax-chick

Didn’t work too well, she died 7 days after the birth.


13 posted on 11/26/2013 6:24:19 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

A queen, well that couldn’t possibly be self-serving

Like Mohmmad making up a faith to get his troops fired up as he ravaged the region


14 posted on 11/26/2013 6:34:42 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

The queen didn’t make up any faith.

Nor did she talk to a burning bush.


15 posted on 11/26/2013 6:54:59 PM PST by James C. Bennett (An Australian.)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Usagi_yo

“Good Buddhists don’t worship Buddha, nor do they pray to him. He’s not a god. “

You are correct. I know several Chinese who believe in Buddhism as a way of life, and believe in Jesus as their savior. They say the two paths are in perfect concordance.

* * *

Buddhism, as I understand it, is indeed a philosophy and approach to living, rather than a religion. However, it is widespread in the East, and has tended to mingle with the local earlier religion as it spread from place to place, resulting in some really interesting (and not terribly germane or appropriate) legends about the Buddha.

For instance, it mingled with the Bo religion in Tibet, resulting in some very colorful rituals featuring devil costumes and such, which has nothing at all to do with anything the Buddha ever said or did, but a lot to do with the earlier indigenous animistic religion.


16 posted on 11/26/2013 10:13:18 PM PST by Hetty_Fauxvert (FUBO, and the useful idiots you rode in on!)
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To: Usagi_yo

depends on which buddhist denomination: Theravada do not, but many Mahayana sub-sects do


17 posted on 11/27/2013 2:01:38 AM PST by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: GeronL; driftdiver
In fairness, the Buddha categorically said that people were not to worship him and if you read his teachings, he did not believe in the need to worship gods or indeed in their presence (when asked, he refused to answer).

all the tales of the Buddha's pre-births etc. arose later

what IS definite is that he was a prince

18 posted on 11/27/2013 2:15:34 AM PST by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: driftdiver

Oh, well. They didn’t have antibiotics then.


19 posted on 11/27/2013 2:18:20 AM PST by Tax-chick (Are you getting ready for the Advent Kitteh?)
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To: James C. Bennett; GeronL

No she didn’t talk to a burning bush. She was impregnated by a magical white elephant.

She also died shortly after the birth.


20 posted on 11/27/2013 6:27:40 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hetty_Fauxvert; Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; Usagi_yo
"Good Buddhists don’t worship Buddha, nor do they pray to him. He’s not a god. “

You are correct. I know several Chinese who believe in Buddhism as a way of life, and believe in Jesus as their savior. They say the two paths are in perfect concordance."

I've spent a lot of time in South Korea where they have extensive temples. I've been in numerous temples which have been there since the beginning of the religion; 1000-2000 years. I've seen the 60 foot tall gold plated buddha built in 1200 AD.

Every single temple has a multitude of buddha icons. Many of which people bow down in worship too and dedicate offerings. You can argue that its a philosophy and not a religion but the evidence indicates otherwise.

21 posted on 11/27/2013 6:33:34 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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