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Amateur Treasure Hunter Finds Roman Gold Hoard
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Posted on 02/22/2014 10:07:09 AM PST by nickcarraway

German archaeologists have recovered a find of over a million euros worth of Roman gold and silver jewellery from an amateur treasure hunter who dug it up illegally in a forest.

The unnamed treasure seeker came across the buried treasure, estimated to be worth more than €1 million, while searching a wooded area in southern Rhineland-Palatinate with a metal detector.

The trove includes a number of leaf-shaped solid gold brooches which are thought to have formed part of the decorations from a coat of high office which once belonged a very important Roman ruler. They date from the late antiquity period - around the time of the fall of the Roman Empire.

Experts say the find could be the largest and most magnificent collection of late antiquity pieces ever found in Germany. It also includes a solid silver bowl set with gold and stones and a set of gold and silver plated statuettes which formed part of a military commander's portable chair.

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"The [original] owner lived well," said chief archaeologist Axel von Berg as he presented the find to press on Tuesday evening.

The treasure hunter initially kept his discovery secret and is thought to have sold off part of it on the black market, but it was seized by the authorities when it came to their attention.

"The looter rendered up [the pieces] himself - but only under pressure from investigators," said Ulrich Himmelmann, head of the Speyer branch of the state archaeology authority.

Prosecutors in the west German state are now investigating the case and will attempt to uncover any further missing pieces, said von Berg, without elaborating further on the circumstances or charges against the finder.

Experts say the treasure, some of which appears Eastern European in style, was buried around 1,500 years ago about the time when Germanic Teutons were plundering and pillaging their way through the crumbling Roman empire.

In the chaos, the so-called barbarians were looting valuables from Romans and each other. Either a Roman ruler buried the treasure as they fled the area or it was hidden by a barbarian and never recovered.

Archaeologists say the thousands of amateur treasure hunters armed with metal detectors are a nuisance and pose a serious danger to historical artifacts.

They often damage or destroy pieces when they dig them up and then attempt to sell them off on the black market and destroy the dig site.

In this case, a silver folding chair was "brutally torn out of the earth and destroyed," said von Berg. The find will soon appear on display to the public in a special exhibition, said Rhineland- Palatinate Culture Minister Doris Ahnen.

In Rhineland-Palatinate searching with a metal detector is a minor offence, but taking the find is a criminal matter under property laws. Not telling authorities about the find can lead to a fraud prosecution, while selling it on can end in a charge for dealing in stolen goods.


TOPICS: History; Local News
KEYWORDS: epigraphyandlanguage; germany; godsgravesglyphs; metaldetecting; romanempire

1 posted on 02/22/2014 10:07:09 AM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Did a hole in your own backyard and tell them you found it there.


2 posted on 02/22/2014 10:10:37 AM PST by struggle
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To: nickcarraway

about $1.5 Million


3 posted on 02/22/2014 10:11:11 AM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: nickcarraway
a number of leaf-shaped solid gold brooches

Not lightly do the leaves of Lorien fall.

4 posted on 02/22/2014 10:12:56 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: struggle
Did a hole in your own backyard and tell them you found it there.

That doesn't seem like it would matter either. It's a shame, but the only way to have kept it would be to melt it.

5 posted on 02/22/2014 10:13:47 AM PST by xone
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To: nickcarraway

A prepper 1,500 years ago hid his gold in the ground. What goes ‘round...


6 posted on 02/22/2014 10:14:40 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: nickcarraway

It’s not illegal to search with a metal detector, but it’s against the law to find something with it.

I understand now.


7 posted on 02/22/2014 10:15:35 AM PST by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: nickcarraway
In Rhineland-Palatinate searching with a metal detector is a minor offence

No picking up lost change I guess.

8 posted on 02/22/2014 10:16:13 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: nickcarraway

WOW! I’d have to think long and hard before I turned that in!


9 posted on 02/22/2014 10:18:23 AM PST by Ditter
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To: nickcarraway

“”The looter rendered up [the pieces] himself”

Translation

“The non-degreed, amateur rendered up [the pieces] himself”


10 posted on 02/22/2014 10:26:31 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: Fresh Wind
In Rhineland-Palatinate searching with a metal detector is a minor offence, but taking the find is a criminal matter under property laws.

Apparently you can get a ticket for even using a metal detector. Not any more illegal to find something, but illegal to take it away.

11 posted on 02/22/2014 10:35:23 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: nickcarraway
Amazing Nick......

"Archaeologists say the thousands of amateur treasure hunters armed with metal detectors are a nuisance and pose a serious danger to historical artifacts"....Archaeologists are unhappy...BOO HOO......they won't dig but get mad if someone does...

12 posted on 02/22/2014 10:38:31 AM PST by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: nickcarraway

In Germany, It is illegal to find an archaeologist by using a mental detector.


13 posted on 02/22/2014 10:47:42 AM PST by bunkerhill7 ("The Second Amendment has no limits on firepower"-NY State Senator Kathleen A. Marchione.")
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To: nickcarraway

Btt


14 posted on 02/22/2014 11:38:22 AM PST by wildbill
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To: xone

Exactly. They should go lightly and compensate him more than the value in bullion lest other discoveries get melted without ever hearing of them.


15 posted on 02/22/2014 11:44:06 AM PST by Justa
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To: struggle

Over there they still claim to own everything, even if buried in your backyard.


16 posted on 02/22/2014 11:57:41 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: nickcarraway
Not telling authorities about the find can lead to a fraud prosecution, while selling it on can end in a charge for dealing in stolen goods.

Stolen from whom?

Oh, I see: The treasure hunter initially kept his discovery secret and is thought to have sold off part of it on the black market, but it was seized by the authorities when it came to their attention.. Everything belongs to the "authorities" even if they had nothing to do with finding it (or inventing it, or building it, or operating it...)

17 posted on 02/22/2014 11:58:45 AM PST by Robwin
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To: nickcarraway

“Archaeologists say the thousands of amateur treasure hunters armed with metal detectors are a nuisance and pose a serious danger to historical artifacts. “

In their mind its better that they remain buried forever, and are probably never discovered. Petty jealousy is all it is.


18 posted on 02/22/2014 12:00:00 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Justa
They should go lightly

Whatever agency this is, it likely has the same tread as our IRS. I'd try and dispose of it anonymously, even though that is largely impossible. You would have to destroy it (the art)to keep it (the gold). Lousy position to find yourself.

19 posted on 02/22/2014 1:14:54 PM PST by xone
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To: struggle

Europe doesn’t quite have the private property rights of America.


20 posted on 02/22/2014 1:29:12 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: xone

He’d be better off selling the pieces bit by bit every month.


21 posted on 02/22/2014 1:30:40 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: 1010RD

All it would take is one of his buyers get into it with the cops, the cops realizing the art, the buyer rolls on the seller to save himself. I got to go with melting it.


22 posted on 02/22/2014 1:37:22 PM PST by xone
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To: xone

How do you sell unmarked gold ingots? Plus, the value isn’t just the gold itself, but the antiquity. It’s not that hard to sell an antiquity one piece at a time.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_trksid=p2053587.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.Xaureus+coin+gold&_nkw=aureus+coin+gold&_sacat=0&_from=R40

Sell one a month and you’re doing well. Keep your job, use the money to save and save. Retire in ten years or so and no one’s the wiser. Too much greed ruins the deed.


23 posted on 02/22/2014 4:39:26 PM PST by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; ...
Thanks nickcarraway.

24 posted on 02/22/2014 5:45:34 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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https://maps.google.com/maps?q=Rhineland-Palatinate&ie=UTF-8&ei=-FIJU7G_FYKRrgG26oG4DA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAg


25 posted on 02/22/2014 5:47:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: nickcarraway

Those would have ALL been sewn as decorations on clothing, for me a formal dress. They are uniform enough to look factory manufactured and would not be that detectable.


26 posted on 02/22/2014 5:50:32 PM PST by madison10
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To: struggle
In Rhineland-Palatinate searching with a metal detector is a minor offence, but taking the find is a criminal matter under property laws. Not telling authorities about the find can lead to a fraud prosecution, while selling it on can end in a charge for dealing in stolen goods.

Sounds like he should have just left it buried. You get punished for finding something.

27 posted on 02/22/2014 5:57:20 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: 1010RD
How do you sell unmarked gold ingots? Plus, the value isn’t just the gold itself, but the antiquity.

Gold is testable, probably cost you something, but they sell gold dust all the time to an assayer. I agree on the antiquity value, but once discovered, you'd have little chance of keeping it.

28 posted on 02/22/2014 9:13:08 PM PST by xone
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To: SunkenCiv

Blast! All you ask is that your Roman gold hoard remains hidden. Is nothing sacred these days?


29 posted on 02/22/2014 10:06:34 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: nickcarraway
My dad is sure he is going to find something like this one day with his metal detecting. He is really big into treasure hunting and unearthing hidden historical artifacts.

I swear that every time you talk to him he brings up metal detecting in some way or another. He even recently created a website with a best metal detector list in the hopes of getting more people interested in the hobby, and so more history can be discovered and learned about.

I think he is a bit disappointed that I never really got into it like he is, but sometimes I do find some of the stuff he brings home interesting.
30 posted on 02/23/2014 2:28:48 AM PST by MonsterPiggy
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To: Sherman Logan

Apparently, you, like I, have watched that movie waaaayyyyy to many times!

LOL!


31 posted on 02/23/2014 6:02:53 AM PST by sneakers ( Quinn: "Liberty is the solution to the human condition.")
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To: sneakers

Museums’ storehouses are full of “antiquities”. Never shown to the public because most museum holdings are in storage for “study”. You’d think these greedy archeologists would have to compensate an individual who finds something...at current value. They enjoy ripping-off the public, don’t they? If you find something, never tell them.


32 posted on 02/23/2014 6:18:00 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: 1010RD

[”Europe doesn’t quite have the private property rights of America.”]And we don’t quite have as many as we used to!


33 posted on 02/23/2014 6:18:30 AM PST by ABN 505
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To: ABN 505

The German “authorities” should offer a healthy percentage of the find to the finder and thus encourage rather than discourage amateur archaeology.


34 posted on 02/23/2014 7:05:16 AM PST by Yollopoliuhqui
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An amusing vignette from "I, Claudius":
Caligula's Dance

35 posted on 02/23/2014 8:03:10 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: Altariel

:’)


36 posted on 02/23/2014 8:04:26 AM PST by SunkenCiv (http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: nickcarraway

What a great way to encourage people to just dig up these relics and melt them down in to untraceable “scrap” metal. Typical liberal thinking. Farmers will lose there land if the three speckled titmouse is in his fields so he kills everyone pf them to save his farm. Any amatuer will now just keep his mouth shut.


37 posted on 02/23/2014 2:00:08 PM PST by Organic Panic
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