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Cop tells student filming him: ‘You just lost your free speech rights!’ [VIDEO]
The Daily Caller ^ | 2-27-2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 02/27/2014 6:47:27 AM PST by servo1969

A chilling video of Maryland police silencing an innocent student who was recording the arrests of two other people has civil libertarians outraged.

The arrests were made at night on the streets of Towson, Maryland. A University of Maryland-Baltimore County student who witnessed the arrests decided to record them using his cell phone. The student, 21-year-old Sergio Gutierrez, was soon approached by officers who objected — wrongly — to his actions.

Gutierrez repeatedly told the officers that he knew he had the right to film them, but the cops were prepared to use any excuse to shut him down. First they told him that he was hampering their investigation, even though he was standing well enough away while the arrests were being made.

Still, the student maintained that he was in the right.

“I am allowed to film,” said Gutierrez.

The cops told him that he was diverting their attention and that he had to leave. When Gutierrez persisted, they told him that he would be arrested if he did not stop recording.

“I thought I had freedom of speech here,” he said.

The cop’s answer? “You don’t. You just lost it. Walk away and keep your mouth shut.”

Police shoved Gutierrez, told him to “shut your f---ing mouth,” and eventually forced him to leave the area.

Many of the people who watched the video were disturbed by the officers’ behavior. So too was the Baltimore County police department, which has launched an investigation, according to WBALTV-11.

Gutierrez told local news that he was glad he recorded the incident. Police may have acted even worse if they knew the camera was off, he said.

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KEYWORDS: abuseofpower; anchorbabies; arrest; baltimore; bordercrashers; cop; donutwatch; dopedealers; film; filmingpolice; illegalaliens; lawenforcement; maryland; police; recording; sergiogutierrez; tyranny; video
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America's policemen are being encouraged more and more to operate as if they are at war while America's armed forces are being forced more and more to operate as if they are policemen.

This does not bode well.

1 posted on 02/27/2014 6:47:27 AM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

“The fish rots from the head”. Obama pays no attention to laws, so why would anyone else?


2 posted on 02/27/2014 6:50:08 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: servo1969

Police are out of control. They are just mad that they can’t beat the crap out of someone anymore because of cameras. This guy needs to be fired immediately.


3 posted on 02/27/2014 6:52:07 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: servo1969
they told him that he would be arrested if he did not stop recording.

This has been the case in these parts of south Kalifornia for at least forty years.

4 posted on 02/27/2014 6:54:08 AM PST by ErnBatavia (The 0baMao Experiment: Abject Failure)
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To: servo1969

Actually the more and more I hear of these kinds of incidents, the more and more I am lead to believe we’ve always had police brutality/abuse. It is just with modern technology they are getting caught more violating citizens rights.


5 posted on 02/27/2014 6:54:41 AM PST by EBH ( The Day of the Patriot has arrived.)
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To: servo1969
You would think that these cops would eventually learn that they lost that battle long ago and with the ease of recording and instantaneous posting to the Internet, (which will only get easier with products like Google Glass), that they really should assume they are being recorded at all times and therefore not make such asinine statements.
6 posted on 02/27/2014 6:55:04 AM PST by apillar
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To: servo1969
I've never had an issue with people filming me while I worked. If anything it would help me if there was any question as to what happened.

On one hand, though, police are allowed to lawfully order people out of an area for legit reasons. If you don't move, the level of force escalates. Yeah, this cop is an idiot, but let's not make this into the Ukraine.

7 posted on 02/27/2014 6:55:53 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: servo1969
America's policemen are being encouraged more and more to operate as if they are at war while America's armed forces are being forced more and more to operate as if they are policemen.

That's a brilliant observation, and allow me to expand on it under the meme of everything is bass ackwards: Democrats are at war with conservatives and think our sworn enemies abroad are no problem. The GOPe is at war with the Tea Party and thinks the Democrats are no problem. Bureaucrats now make more money than entrepreneurs who take all the risk and who pay the very bureaucrats who destroy them. I could go on and on (and I do in my books) - but we're in bass ackward times.

8 posted on 02/27/2014 6:57:08 AM PST by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: EBH

You win the cigar.


9 posted on 02/27/2014 6:59:45 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: napscoordinator

Fired? What about charged with official oppression, and denial of civil rights under color of authority? Possession of a firearm while committing a felony? There’s much more than this officer’s job at stake here.


10 posted on 02/27/2014 7:00:35 AM PST by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: napscoordinator

This is what scares me when I see police departments advertising for recruits as shockingly low salaries.

When you go dumpster-diving like that you are bound to hire low quality, maladjusted people.


11 posted on 02/27/2014 7:02:52 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: servo1969

Don’t worry, the police investigation will find that the officers did nothing wrong and the whole thing will be swept under the rug.


12 posted on 02/27/2014 7:04:20 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: apillar; servo1969

As public servants and public employees, everything an officer does in his official duties is a matter of public record. When that record is a written record that the officer creates, they have control of the story and how it’s told. When it’s on video, the story unfolds (more or less) as it actually occurs, so they can’t spin it in their favor if they do something that puts them in a bad light.


13 posted on 02/27/2014 7:06:21 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: thefactor

This cop committed multiple Federal felonies. Google up 18USC242.


14 posted on 02/27/2014 7:07:03 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: napscoordinator

There are alot of conservatives out there who are having a hard time dealing with increasing reports of police state issues. Some believe you should blindly obey LEO even if they are acting unconstitutionally. They live in Leave it to Beaver times. False arrests are proliferating. I was recently arrested trying to demonstrate on a median. He wanted me on the curb seated I refused. He expected me to carry my ID on my person...I was on foot. Had to get an ACLU attorney for this one. Then there was the girl jogger in Austin-she violated the signal at an intersection as a pedestrian was detained and did not hear the cops approaching her from behind. In her case the cop had probable cause and will likely succeed in avoiding litigation (he will get “qualified immunity”). Tort Reform will keep costs down for cities or govt. entities so they will never have the fear of a large sledgehammer cost lawsuit to inspire them to train their officers correctly. The pincers between Tort Reform (forced settlements) and the SCOTUS case Atwater (2001) will blossom police civil rights abuse against citizens. In Texas, the Ruling Class has successfully neutered the trial lawyers on many areas of law, capping awards, creating a judicial branch with executive authority for judges to dismiss out of hand...it will end up being a problem.Anyway here is my vid on my arrest...I DID FILM! https://vimeo.com/87769802


15 posted on 02/27/2014 7:08:15 AM PST by magna carta
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To: servo1969

Scary video.
Police have been fired for this in the past, and departments and cities have been sued. And taxpayers always pick up the tab.
Sue the individual law enforcement personnel instead, and these incidents (crimes) will stop.

http://www.thedailysheeple.com/7-rules-for-recording-police_042013


16 posted on 02/27/2014 7:13:17 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: Lurker
I don't see it that way at all. As a fireman, can I run into your house and physically remove you from it? Cops have the ability to make you move away from a location in certain circumstances.

I would have said something like, "Sure you can film! Just do it while you're walking away from this area, which is now a crime scene. Or did you want to be taken to the station house to be interviewed over then next several hours about what you saw here and your phone taken as evidence?"

The public wants all the bad guys off the streets and all the crimes solved. But they don't realize it's not an episode of Law & Order and bystanders get hurt all the time.

Again, let me say, this cop is an idiot. Don't accuse me of defending him.

17 posted on 02/27/2014 7:15:19 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: RandallFlagg

On a 1983 civil rights case you must sue the cop first....they do get sued.


18 posted on 02/27/2014 7:15:20 AM PST by magna carta
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To: servo1969

Maryland just went through an expensive lawsuit over this last year, and the police lost. Why didn’t Baltimore County get the memo?


19 posted on 02/27/2014 7:16:31 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: servo1969

Today’s ‘police’ force is nothing more than ANOTHER gang.

We need to abolish them. They do NOT keep law or order anymore. They’re a legalized gang.


20 posted on 02/27/2014 7:16:49 AM PST by joethedrummer
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To: magna carta

Do you have a version WITHOUT the music?
I can barely hear what everyone’s saying.


21 posted on 02/27/2014 7:17:35 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: magna carta

Yeah, but not so much anymore.


22 posted on 02/27/2014 7:19:14 AM PST by RandallFlagg ("I said I never had much use for one. Never said I didn't know how to use it." --Quigley)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

Not in this economy.

The proper way to run law enforcement is as it has always been. Moderately low pay with little advancement. Fill it with young men who work it for a few years and then get out. Nothing else is financially viable.

The people who could be persuaded that another path could be viable are responsible for our unfunded public pension mess. And only those people. All of them. No exceptions even if they are Freepers.

We knew the math back in the seventies. Politicians promised someday the money to pay for all these increasing numbers of lifelong government workers would materialize. Idiots from both major parties were foolish enough to believe an obvious lie because they wanted it to be true.

It sounds so desirable. How can something that sounds so reasonable be wrong?

Because of math. Math doesn’t care. Math has no mercy.

This message has been brought to you by unpleasant reality.


23 posted on 02/27/2014 7:21:08 AM PST by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: apillar

Cops don’t mind being photographed for the show “Cops” and similar documentaries.The obvious reason is that they have “creative control” over what segments will air, and they’re usually on their good behavior while on camera. Any misconduct will hit the cutting room floor, to borrow a phrase from the movies.


24 posted on 02/27/2014 7:28:25 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: servo1969
The cop had every right to stop the filming. He probably felt that he was in danger. After all, the camera could have been a cleverly disguised derringer.

Or perhaps the cop thought that the cameraman was about to rush him. Cell phone cameras are blunt instruments, and can do great damage close-quarters.

I think we all ought to applaud the cop for showing great restraint in not shooting the cameraman, or any dogs that happened to be nearby.

25 posted on 02/27/2014 7:33:51 AM PST by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: RandallFlagg
http://www.thedailysheeple.com/7-rules-for-recording-police_042013

Thanks for posting that informative article. Covers most things that could happen if a citizen thinks of recording an incident involving officers of the law.

26 posted on 02/27/2014 7:38:33 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

I am pretty sure that cops are overpaid no matter what you pay them.


27 posted on 02/27/2014 7:39:06 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: EBH

bingo


28 posted on 02/27/2014 7:40:23 AM PST by cizinec ("Brother, your best friend ain't your Momma, it's the Field Artillery.")
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To: trisham
"“The fish rots from the head”. Obama pays no attention to laws, so why would anyone else?"

So why should a State pay any attention to a federal judge who nullifies their marriage laws or any other law or amendment to their State's Constitution? "Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander'.

29 posted on 02/27/2014 7:42:38 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: MrEdd
...Because of math. Math doesn’t care. Math has no mercy...

So true. I've always said the left is math-impaired. They're not so hot on any of the hard sciences, in fact.

30 posted on 02/27/2014 7:43:12 AM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: trisham

The guy doing the recording should have told the cop that he was just ignoring any law that supposedly forbids his actions. Just like Obama does. Works for him doesn’t it? What’s good for the goose is good for the gander.


31 posted on 02/27/2014 7:45:19 AM PST by NCC-1701 (I am proud of what America USED TO BE.)
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To: DariusBane

We need sensible cops, we don’t need jackbooted Stasi.


32 posted on 02/27/2014 7:46:01 AM PST by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: thefactor

You just did defend him. This cop is now a felon. Did you even read the Statute I cited?


33 posted on 02/27/2014 8:01:31 AM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: servo1969

Cops have no respect anymore.


34 posted on 02/27/2014 8:09:58 AM PST by plainshame
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To: servo1969

I’m reminded of this scene from A Clockwork Orange, when Alex encounters his former friends who were now policemen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DZQOBLqinQk


35 posted on 02/27/2014 8:10:36 AM PST by VR-21 (Next Stop, Willoughby.)
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To: Lurker
Yes I did, but you didn't address the extenuating circumstances I noted. If you have a CO2 leak in your home but you don't want to leave, can a fireman or cop force you out of your own home? Of course.

If you're standing on a crime scene and cops are fighting with a suspect can you be moved fomr the area for your safety? And if you turn into a little punk with an iPhone and won't leave, then it's on you. Now the cops have to deal with wide-eyed (propbably drunk) gawkers who want a cool video while the other cops are rolling around with the suspect.

Again, I'm not defending the cops words and tactics. I'm saying he had a duty to do what he did. He just did it in the absolute wrong way.

36 posted on 02/27/2014 8:21:35 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: thefactor
If you have a CO2 leak in your home but you don't want to leave [...]

Do you heat your home with CO2?

Regards,

37 posted on 02/27/2014 8:33:07 AM PST by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: servo1969; Alaska Wolf

In a just world the cop would lose his job and pension.


38 posted on 02/27/2014 8:40:56 AM PST by null and void (<--- unwilling cattle-car passenger on the bullet train to serfdom)
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To: thefactor

no, you are merely defending the tactics used...


39 posted on 02/27/2014 8:50:08 AM PST by joe fonebone (a socialist is just a juvenile communist)
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To: joe fonebone
maryland offers yet more proof that it is THE Freak state. Leave while you can. It is hopeless there.
40 posted on 02/27/2014 8:52:10 AM PST by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: alexander_busek

Ha. Force of habit. Of course I meant CO.


41 posted on 02/27/2014 8:59:11 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: joe fonebone

Please see the last line in my post #36. His tactics were awful.


42 posted on 02/27/2014 9:00:25 AM PST by thefactor (yes, as a matter of fact, i DID only read the excerpt)
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To: RandallFlagg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iBRAM3QCq7Y


43 posted on 02/27/2014 9:01:22 AM PST by Karl Spooner
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To: servo1969
launched an investigation

No doubt looking for a rug to sweep this under..

44 posted on 02/27/2014 9:03:33 AM PST by IamConservative (&#9581;&#8745;&#9582;&#65288;&#65078;&#65087;&#65078;&#65289;&#9581;&#8745;&#9582;)
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To: MrEdd

County deputies here average 45k plus more beni’s than the rest of us get. This is rural N.C. Down the road in York county S.C. a deputy shot a 72 year old man that was ordered out of his car. He complied ,grabbed his cane and was rewarded with a sw 40 hollow point. I trust the police about as much as our elected officials.


45 posted on 02/27/2014 9:04:44 AM PST by rsobin
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To: thefactor; alexander_busek; Lurker
"If you have a CO2 leak in your home but you don't want to leave, can a fireman or cop force you out of your own home? "

Huh?

46 posted on 02/27/2014 9:16:58 AM PST by semaj (Nothing will change until lying becomes an extremely dangerous & expensive habit.)
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To: coloradan
Fired? What about charged with official oppression, and denial of civil rights under color of authority? Possession of a firearm while committing a felony? There’s much more than this officer’s job at stake here.

Those are not crimes, Comrade. Those are the rightful entitlements of the State against disrespectful hooligans that interfere with social justice and progress.
47 posted on 02/27/2014 9:29:03 AM PST by Robert Teesdale
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To: thefactor
I think what law enforcement does not publicly state, but wholly realizes (hence the escalating militarization), is the following:

Citizens no longer trust law enforcement.

Citizens no longer respect law enforcement.

Citizens now actively despise law enforcement.

They have overwhelming reason. And law enforcement brought it on itself. It put toys and self-congratulatory testosterone over the Republic.
48 posted on 02/27/2014 9:32:22 AM PST by Robert Teesdale
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To: RandallFlagg

I do. will post soon


49 posted on 02/27/2014 9:38:39 AM PST by magna carta
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To: servo1969

!


50 posted on 02/27/2014 9:39:30 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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