Posted on 03/25/2014 7:17:19 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
What kind a suicidal person would take everyone else out with them, unless they were a terrorist suicide bomber?
the south pole still has the secret nazi ufo base from ww2.
Please get it right!
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Fish poisoning?
This scenario means that the Malaysian government will have to cough up maximun payout to the families of the survivors — as opposed the the fire/mechanical failure scenario which would mean that Boeing would be on the hook for a large portion of it.
Well -- kill two birds with one shot or rather a flock of birds one shot.
By doing this he gets back at his wife/exwife as support payments to her are gone, and his financially troubled employer who had probably been putting the squeeze on the pilots -- particularly the older ones, and the Malaysian government for convicting a friend of his.
He deaded a lot of people with this move.
Your scenario is right in the ballpark according to the facts as we are finding them out to be.
The Malaysian military is now admitting that it had the flight on radar from 1:19 until 2:40 — a major reversal of their original denial.
It took two minutes to turn it around.
It went up to 45,000 for 23 minutes then dropped precipitously to 12,000ft and headed northwest up to waypoint Igrex, a busy flight corridor, that he was on until probably 2:40 when Malaysian radar lost contact.
When Inmarsat paints it at 3:11, it is no longer on that northwest heading but heading south.
Two questions:
1] How long did he remain at 12,000ft — until 2:40 or all the way south and why???
2] Did he drop to 12,000ft so that at some point west of Indonesia he could get the door open and bail out to be picked up by the person he got an illegal cell phone call from just before the flight?
It is kind of odd how all these questions seemed to be answered and claims made that are not backed by actual fact, but accepted as the official explanation.
The whole two week episode has kind of disappeared just like the plane.
I hope that eventually the truth will be revealed, but I doubt it now.
There are reports of debris again today. However we haven’t seen any of it yet.
French satellite spots 122 objects up to 75ft long in Indian Ocean that appear to be debris from doomed airliner
122 objects is a lot of debris —
Well, I hope it is the debris. We will see, I guess.
If I cannot go armed I do not go.
Are you privy to the details of this mathematical data ? Otherwise it could easily be hocus pocus. I work in math and it is very easy to massage numbers.
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OK, so the Malaysians have something to cover up (so the story goes).
Help me understand, in your scenario, what the British have to gain from lying about this?
The whole two week episode has kind of disappeared just like the plane.
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Really? Where do you live?
It was still the top story on all the news stations last night and this morning and was the lead story on GMA, as it has been every day for the last 2+ weeks.
It is the lead story on cnn.com, abcnews.com, and cbsnews.com this morning as well. I stopped looking after that.
I never watch the last 3 you mentioned. However, FOX has not been on it like before.
As for GMA, nope, don’t listen to them either.
I’m with you, Buddy!
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Most of us pilots in my sphere of influence do not believe there was any climbing and certainly no rapid descent. It would not have served any purpose unless there was a struggle involved. Remember the transponder is off and Malaysian military radar can not accurately know for certain altitude from the distance all this was suppose to occur. Most importantly, in any scenario, who knows, who cares about the climb and descent. Mostly a sideshow element.
It never occurred to me to think about before this incident, but yes it would very simple to kill off passengers and most crewmembers. Again absolutely no reason to climb to accomplish. Certainly one would not descend rapidly if that is what you are trying to accomplish. 777 chemical oxygen generators last 22 minutes. HOWEVER that 22 minutes takes into account the plane is descending. IF the plane does NOT descend, the oxygen lasts less than the 22 minutes. How long is anyones guess.
The Captain would have been acutely aware of the Helios flight 522 crash where a B737 flew for almost 2 hours with the pilots and passengers dead. HOWEVER, an off duty cabin crewmember survived the whole period using the portable oxygen bottles. He made acess to the cockpit, but did not know how to establish communication and of course how to fly the plane. He made a heroic effort but ended up spinning it end.
ADS-B is part of the transponder system. You turn off transponder, ADS-B is turned off. Again has no meaning.Turning off ACARS much more simple than many make it out to be.
Autopilot automatically disconnects when an engine fails due to many reasons. All very simple, all very logical to the system. IF pilot still alive, he would just re connect. If he is dead, the plane plummets from that position. The failed engine provides too much drag and aerodynamics are interrupted.
Pilot suicide has as much possibility as any other theory right now. I hope you understand that most of in the pilot community, again in my sphere of influence see alot of problems with that theory. Mostly because we spend our whole career protecting what we consider to be the most valuable commodity on board that plane. That would be the passengers. Also, we have established relationship with many many of the cabin crewmembers. In and off the plane, on the road, we would do anything to make sure they are protected and safe. Not in our psych to kill them. Yes there have been two recent examples, but it is hard to accept.
I don't think he was there very long. They seem to think he flew about 8 hours before crashing -- no way he could've stayed down that low and kept going that long, not even close. Too much fuel consumption.
2] Did he drop to 12,000ft so that at some point west of Indonesia he could get the door open and bail out to be picked up by the person he got an illegal cell phone call from just before the flight?
That would be a crazy experiment. I'm not saying it wouldn't work but I've never heard of anyone attempting it. The slipstream from most of the doors is not located in places that make it safe to jump. He could have depressurized. slowed (with the flaps/slats out) and opened up any of the doors, but it'd be very risky to jump from there. I think there's an avionics compartment under the cockpit, that's accessible from the cockpit. I'm not sure if someone could fit through it wearing a parachute. That would be your best bet if you could get through it wearing a parachute. Any other door, you might end up in an engine (the crew doors up front) or hitting the horizontal stabilizer (aft cabin doors, over the wing).
Cargo jets and turboprops used in the military for jumpers have air deflector doors for static line jumps (side doors) and the aft ramp is well clear of the tail (the jets are T-tail, and a C-130 has a high horizontal stabilizer too). They of course are designed with jumpers in mind. They jump out at 150 knots or less, even with air deflector doors in use. That's about the airspeed limit for the ramp & door too, since buffeting becomes a factor.
When DB Cooper did it many years ago, it was a 727 and he jumped from the aft door under the tail -- much safer than from a side door on an airliner.
Just thought of this -- if he jumped out west of Indonesia then the airplane would have had to climb back up to above 30,000 feet to make it as far as it did (or at least as far as they say the airplane did). He would have had to configure the airplane with slats & flaps to go slowly enough to jump out -- but nobody would be there to retract them (though the FMS could be programmed to climb without anyone at the controls). So I'd have to rule out him jumping out alone without help from inside the airplane.
Why isn’t wife in the middle of a media storm?
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