Skip to comments.Why ‘Game Of Thrones’ Is The Most Frustrating Show On TV
Posted on 04/15/2014 7:09:01 PM PDT by Perdogg
Dont think this is a burial of Game of Thrones; it really is one of the best shows on TV right now. But the best and frustrating arent mutually exclusive, and theres a lot Game of Thrones does that it could stand to stop doing. Like, for example
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I’ve never seen it, but then I don’t have HBO.
“It Wont Stop Killing The Most Interesting Characters”
That means plenty of surprises for the viewers. So?
“It Wont Kill Boring Characters Off, Or At Least Push Them Off-Screen”
Because those “boring” characters end up playing key roles here and there.
“It Needs More Focus”
Is the author of this piece an idiot?
“And yes, eventually she does actually get involved in what amounts to the main plot, but really, just either give her her own show, or have her show up out of nowhere riding a dragon.”
Oh, he IS AN IDIOT.
“Its A Little Too Faithful To The Books”
No such thing when the books are really good.
“Theres Always Room For Improvement”
Sure. We could see it in an IMAX and the episodes could be 2 hours long. I would like that. Also, the show could be on year round and new episodes could appear EVERY DAY. All of that is unrealistic, however.
Here’s the problem: the original novels are extremely complex with multiple plots going on at the same time. It’s even kind of a miracle the writers of the TV series has been able to write episodes without totally confusing viewers for each season.
Have you read the books?
I mounted a frontal assault on them at first, and failed. But then, I found a strategy...
The books are a ghastly bizarro-world imitation of the books of Tolkien—the writer of the semi-porn crap is just a dirty-minded loser. Yuck. Hate to see it take up space as anything resembling art on FR.
Yeah man, did you read the books?
I’ve not been confused by the complex multiple plots. I just don’t understand why that Tyrion guy is so short.
No, you couldn’t.
I might take issue with you on that.
I find very little that imitates Tolkien, other than the exercise in world building. The books are more a subversion of fantasy tropes, and I find that refreshing. The stories are more about power struggles and political maneuvering than the hero’s journey.
Obviously, they are doing something right considering the high popularity of the show. I will continue to tune in to see my favorite characters Arry, Sandor, Tyrion, Bronn, and the new Kingslayer Olenna Tyrell even if I have to endure Stannis, Theon, or any of the Freys.
That and it always shows boobie play time
The same writers that put GWB’s severed head on a pike, and saw all the Leftists have little puppy-orgasms?
I am reading Book 3 right now. I really like Martin’s style of writing. As you already know, each chapter is written from the viewpoint of a particular character.
I actually like Stannis, and I like the actor. He did a very good job as Thomas Jefferson in “John Adams.” His story does tend to drag though between Blackwater and his next move.
I just finished marathoning the first 3 seasons On Demand. I had watched them previously, but it was so long between season that I forgot who was who.
I am now ready to start Season 4. I let a few episode air, as I will probably marathon them On Demand, too.
It is soft porn with a plot
Actually I think of Martin as the anti-Tolkien - everything that is good and noble in Tolkien (and other High Fantasy books) is deliberately left out. Every character is deeply flawed, there is no good vs evil because everyone is evil, there is no romance, only tawdry sex. He can feel free to kill off anyone because there are no heroes. It's likely because Martin is a flaming leftist and thus only has evil in his heart. And yet the books are very good, though the last was less good - Martin is falling into the "stretch out the story to make an extra buck" trap that Robert Jordan also fell in. Martin is getting on in years - hope he doesn't die before he finishes the series llke Jordan did (though in Jordan's case it was finished by a technically better writer so it worked out fine).
The books have very little overt sex in them.
The discussion of sex in the books is not a bit out of line with what is normal in literary works, particularly of the realist sort. Sex is implied, or baldly discussed, but rarely if ever shown, and then without prurience. It is a very adult sort of treatment of life.
Consider Flaubert, Balzac, Zola or Hugo.
As for what HBO did, that is their doing and not essential to the work. The series would be substantially better with some editing of HBOs extra features.
btw, his wife is certifiably insane.
Author of this article should stick to watching ‘Keeping Up with the Kardashians’!
welllll I dont wanna spoil it for you.. just wait for a cpl of episodes
Ah, so you haven’t seen the episode yet where Loras gets his sex change operation and then marries Sandor Clegane.
Frustrating maybe but the ending of the latest episode was a most satisfying character resolution.
Shall we offer opinions on who killed you-know-who?
It is a realist approach to fantasy, to make a sort of oxymoron. Martins people are real people, imperfect. And he has killed off some of the most upright.
Consider the Iliad. For all the gods and goddesses, magic and myths, it reads very much like a modern novel.
The best of literature is full of compelling but imperfect characters. In the Iliad the best man is killed and the most annoying man manages to eventually get over himself, at least a little.
Couldn’t agree more. Mammothly complex books wonderfully brought to the small screen. I am amazed at what they have done. Just one of the great shows.
Wasn’t it just! ; )
To the positive, it’s a gorgeous series, from the locations to the costuming to the sets. It’s as close to perfect in casting as I’ve ever seen. The writing is first-rate, otherwise the very elaborate plot lines would devolve into gibberish.
To the negative, there is too much gratuitous sex that does not add a thing to the story. The most memorable, engaging characters all get killed off. It can be quite violent. It almost made me sick when Eddard Stark was beheaded, and not just because his was such an engaging, real character. It was also because the show lingered a little too long and lovingly on an incredibly upsetting and gory scene, one of many.
All that said, it’s the most awesome thing to hit tv that I’ve ever seen, I thought that with the first season and I still think so with the fourth having just begun. It’s beautiful and very affecting. Human weakness, greed, arrogance, scheming and murderous anger are on full display.
I watch it via On Demand with friends who have cable, I cut the cord years ago. I love the show, warts and all.
My kids call it: “Lord of the Rings without a plot.”
That is aline straight out of the Tragical History of the Life and Death of Dr. Faustus" as spoken by Mephistopheles to Faustus.
Best TV in a generation.
Not really. The story is sort of “The War of the Roses” in a fantasy setting. It’s the seriousness that the author puts into his writing that invites the Tolkein comparison.
Well, I’m only on season 3, but I know by know that it’s just one long soap opera. With multiple non-intersecting storylines no episode will ever end on with a satisfying conclusion.
Arya Stark gets one early in season four.
I tend to agree generally. I did think that aspects of book 5 were very good (Wyman Manderly, the storyline at The Wall). I think Martin became tangled in the Mereen plot line much as Daenyres was tangled in Mereen itself....
He obviously struggled with extracting Dani and the plot line from Mereen...
I'm currently struggling through a novel just like that ('Atlas Shrugged'). You come to the end of a chapter and then it's like, What? You mean there's more? Frustrating, to say the least!
I read the books.
Watched the first season, and several minutes actually went by between copulations. Found a lot that was pretty, the stunningly beautiful dogs, the theme music. That reminds me most of the sex was doggy style. Never watched the second season.
I understood that you read the books.
I was asking if you had to do anything different to actually get through them.
I had to use a different reading strategy than I normally use.
“I was asking if you had to do anything different to actually get through them.”
“I had to use a different reading strategy than I normally use.”
What did you do? I know some people read them by character sections rather than by sequential chapters.
IMO, George R.R. Martin writes his GoT novels like he’s writing a script for TV. You get to the end of a chapter and BAM! cliffhanger! Then off to the next character’s chapter.
Agree with you about the author.
I also read the comments after the end of the article, which showed me the real “problem” with GoT.
It is not the show, but the lazy, single-dimensional viewers, who have never read complex (normal for the times, but complex and “boring” by current popular standards) works like most of the classics of English and American literature.
“Detailed “world building” began with Tolkien?!? Bwaaahahahaha!
If you haven’t read the books then all is lost, the book had chapter titles so at least you knew where you were going next.
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