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How 'Star Wars' ruined sci-fi
CNN ^ | 5/2/2014 | CNN

Posted on 05/04/2014 2:13:54 PM PDT by Dallas59

Now that the cast of the seventh "Star Wars" movie has been announced, you can imagine the anticipation among the millions of fans of the film franchise. And why not? The six "Star Wars" films have been enormous successes: they have grossed over $2 billion domestically at the box office, spawned scores of books, comic books and merchandise (how many kids have their own light saber?) and made household names of characters like Darth Vader, Han Solo and Luke Skywalker.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Music/Entertainment; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: cinema; film; movies; sciencefiction; scifi; starwars
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1 posted on 05/04/2014 2:13:54 PM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
“Moichandising . . . moichandising!”


2 posted on 05/04/2014 2:17:09 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Dallas59
thinking science fiction is some computer graphics-laden space opera/western filled with shootouts, territorial disputes, evil patriarchs and trusty mounts (like the Millennium Falcon).

Of course it is, among other timeless plots laced with sciency-things. "Star Wars" has a particularly aristocratic Space Western origin, since the writer of "The Empire Strikes Back," Leigh Brackett, also wrote a couple of classic John Wayne movies ("El Dorado," "Rio Bravo").

She was also a very successful science fiction author in the 1930s. The "science" is dated - nobody thinks humans could survive on Mercury anymore - but a good story is a good story, and a good story can be made into a successful movie.

3 posted on 05/04/2014 2:18:04 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Happy Star Wars Day! May the Fourth be with all y'all.)
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To: Aevery_Freeman; ShadowAce; Jack Hydrazine; Altariel; nuancey; Thorliveshere; skinkinthegrass; ...

ping


4 posted on 05/04/2014 2:20:57 PM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Dallas59

Star Wars is Science Fiction Fantasy. Star Trek is more Science Fiction as in “it could happen”.


6 posted on 05/04/2014 2:22:05 PM PDT by Dallas59 ("Remember me as you pass by, As you are now, so once was I, As I am now, so you will be")
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To: Tax-chick
Gene Roddenberry pitched Star Trek to the networks as a "Wagon Train" in space.
7 posted on 05/04/2014 2:22:50 PM PDT by Bratch
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8 posted on 05/04/2014 2:25:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Dallas59
There are, for example, no light sabers, spaceships or Death Stars in the 1979 novel "Kindred," by Octavia Butler, who won the Hugo and Nebula, sci-fi's top awards, and was also awarded a MacArthur Foundation "Genius" Grant.

Just time travel, race and lots of kinky sex.

This somehow being more science-y then light sabers and space ships.

9 posted on 05/04/2014 2:27:40 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Dallas59

Time for something new! How about doing a movie of the great book “A Mote In God’s Eye?”


10 posted on 05/04/2014 2:27:45 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: Bratch

All literature, and I consider movies as literature, is based in a handful of grand themes. “Wagon Train” is “Silk-Road Caravan,” if you want it to be, or “Star Trek.” Leadership vs. rebellion, order vs. chaos, how romantic relationships bollux everything up, etc.

Michael Hurst, “New Zealand’s most successful Shakespearean actor,” said of his co-star turn in “Hercules: The Legendary Journeys” that the themes were no different from the themes of Shakespeare, because people are always the same, only settings (and quality of writing ;-) change.


11 posted on 05/04/2014 2:28:05 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Happy Star Wars Day! May the Fourth be with all y'all.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

“Star Trek” did race, “Star Trek” did time travel, “Star Trek” implied kinky sex.


12 posted on 05/04/2014 2:28:56 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Happy Star Wars Day! May the Fourth be with all y'all.)
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To: Dallas59

Look at what we have today that was used in Star Trek, the original with James T. Kirk. The flip phone for one. Flat screen TV for another.


13 posted on 05/04/2014 2:29:08 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Intereferes With Justice. And Pay Your Liberty Tax Citizen.)
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To: Dallas59

Butler’s main themes are race and sex, and in “Kindred” she wrote about a modern black woman who travels back in time to the antebellum South, where she is enslaved. The novel is regularly taught in classrooms and has made at least one list of “Great Books By Women.”

But Hollywood has yet to adapt it for the screen.

“How many of those white people are evil movies are they going to make”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nN9hy4YNIv0 [language]


14 posted on 05/04/2014 2:30:25 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Dallas59

Interesting article, though I disagree with the premise. As much as I loved the original Star Wars films, I never thought (even as a kid) they were the end all, be all for science fiction.

Consider some of the really great sci-fi made during or just after the original trilogy of Star Wars flicks: Alien, Blade Runner, John Carpenter’s version of The Thing, Starman, etc. Later on, we’d also have the likes of Dark City, Gattaca, and so on.

Now, I *do* think there is a trend towards on over-reliance on action in the sci-fi genre. But that’s what sells summer movie tickets these days, and I don’t think Star Wars is to blame or even that sci-fi is the only genre to have this trend.

As for the author’s assertion that The Matrix is the most original movie of the last 25 years, well, each to their own. The first film was visually impressive, but I’ve never found the films that deep or inspiring. Gattaca left a much bigger impression on me than Matrix. And in the vein of virtual/alternate reality, I like Dark City and the low-bugdet eXistenZ (a birthday IS a special occasion) just as much, if not more, than Matrix.


15 posted on 05/04/2014 2:31:05 PM PDT by DemforBush (A repo man is always intense.)
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To: Dallas59

Star Wars owes a lot to Jack Kirby, too. It’s not difficult to see the influence of The New Gods in the Star Wars mythology, and Dr Doom clearly influenced aspects of the Darth Vader character.

I don’t think Lucas ever owned up to that, but I confess I don’t know for sure


16 posted on 05/04/2014 2:31:15 PM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Tax-chick
Accurate.

But this article was a whine fest about Star Wars, which I submit, that the author has his panties in a wad over because there were "white" heroes in the story.

17 posted on 05/04/2014 2:32:10 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Dallas59
Butler's main themes are race and sex, and in "Kindred" she wrote about a modern black woman who travels back in time to the antebellum South, where she is enslaved. The novel is regularly taught in classrooms and has made at least one list of "Great Books By Women."

But Hollywood has yet to adapt it for the screen. Maybe if the lead character had a Wookie by her side...

Who knows, maybe Moochelle Obama is available?

Seriously though, that's his example of thought provoking science fiction? Sounds like Uncle Tom's Cabin with a time machine.

18 posted on 05/04/2014 2:36:17 PM PDT by Hugin
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To: Tax-chick

Star Wars is a story about a farm boy, an old wizard and a pirate who rescue a princess from an evil sorcerer in an impregnable castle. The sci-fi part is just window dressing.


19 posted on 05/04/2014 2:41:46 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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Flat screen for viewing monitors on decks but in the rooms they had bulky consoles.


20 posted on 05/04/2014 2:42:05 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Conseravtives are all that's left to defend the Constitution. Dems hate it, and Repubs don't care.)
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