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Harlan Ellison turns 80 today
Multiple links in body of thread | May 27, 2014

Posted on 05/27/2014 10:57:16 AM PDT by EveningStar

The great writer Harlan Ellison turns 80 today.

Ellison has won eight Hugo Awards, a shared award for the screenplay of A Boy and his Dog that he counts as "half an Hugo" and two special awards from annual World SF Conventions; four Nebula Awards of the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America (SFWA); five Bram Stoker Awards of the Horror Writers Association (HWA); two Edgar Awards of the Mystery Writers of America; two World Fantasy Award from annual conventions; and two Georges Méliès fantasy film awards. -- Wikipedia

Ellison is known primarily to television viewers as the author of two episodes of The Outer Limits (original series) -- Demon with a Glass Hand, and Soldier. He is also the author of The City on the Edge of Forever episode of the original Star Trek series. The episode was heavily rewritten by others. He was also creative consultant for the 1980s version of The Twilight Zone, and Babylon 5

He is also known for threatening to sue the producers and distributor of The Terminator because he felt that the story was based on his Soldier episode. He recieved an out of court settlement. (video)

Ellison is known for his colorful personality, as evidenced by this video clip (PROFANITY ALERT!): Harlan Ellison -- Pay the Writer


TOPICS: Books/Literature; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; hack; harlanellison; literature; sciencefiction; secondamendment

1 posted on 05/27/2014 10:57:16 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Borges; Perdogg

ping


2 posted on 05/27/2014 10:57:41 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Weird guy, but great SF writer.

I should say “weird when compared to people who aren’t great writers.”


3 posted on 05/27/2014 11:00:32 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: EveningStar

A complete maniac. Anyhow, here’s an interview with Isaac Asimov, Gene Wolfe and Harlan Ellison, from 1982.

Gene Wolfe rules.

Warning, a little bit of off-colour vocabulary is utilized.

http://www.sfsignal.com/archives/2013/06/a-1982-video-interview-of-isaac-asimov-harlan-ellison-and-gene-wolfe/

Freegards


4 posted on 05/27/2014 11:00:33 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: EveningStar
Ellison is an bsolutely brilliant SF writer, author of I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream and countless others.
5 posted on 05/27/2014 11:03:36 AM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Ransomed

Unfortunately that video has been zapped. :(


6 posted on 05/27/2014 11:04:26 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Ellison is an absolutely brilliant SF writer, author of I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream and countless others.

Associative Menace.

A great screen name! Wish I'd thought of it!

7 posted on 05/27/2014 11:06:35 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: All

was also personally fired by Walt Disney (Elison suggested an adult themed cartoon back when animation was only for children)


8 posted on 05/27/2014 11:07:38 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: EveningStar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZvcKB9vQO0

That should do it. My first thought was Ellison must not have received additional royalties or something...

Freegards


9 posted on 05/27/2014 11:10:12 AM PDT by Ransomed
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To: longtermmemmory

I believe he was fired by Roy Disney.

Harlan was overheard discussing involving Mickey Mouse in a pornographic situation; the discussion took place in the Disney studio cafeteria.

Ellison was fired when he returned to his desk after lunch.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 11:11:04 AM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: Ransomed

Thank you. :)


11 posted on 05/27/2014 11:14:56 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

Happy birthday to a talented writer.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 11:22:25 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: EveningStar

Harlan better not mellow out in his old age, we won’t live long if he mellows out as hell may think it is safe to take him....


13 posted on 05/27/2014 11:23:43 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: EveningStar
I have no mouth, but I must scream:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY, HARLON!!!!!!!!!!!!
14 posted on 05/27/2014 11:24:51 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: left that other site

Harlon = Harlan.

Ooopsie.


15 posted on 05/27/2014 11:35:22 AM PDT by left that other site (You shall know the Truth, and The Truth Shall Set You Free.)
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To: EveningStar
He is also the author of The City on the Edge of Forever episode of the original Star Trek series. The episode was heavily rewritten by others.

In 1995, Ellison published the original version of this teleplay. I remember seeing it in a mall bookstore, with a photo of Harlan posing with Shatner and Nimoy (both in costume) on the cover. The introduction was vintage, ranting, profane Ellison.

I glanced through it and noticed some of the changes, but given that it was a prime-time series, I totally understand why portions were rewritten. It's probably the most highly-acclaimed episode of the entire Star Trek franchise, yet Ellison has been bitter about it for decades. Stereotypical artist - so gifted, but "not quite normal".

16 posted on 05/27/2014 11:39:19 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: EveningStar
I have several items (posters and books) signed by Mr. Ellison when I met him in public forums like conventions...he was very nice and a perfect gentleman on those occasions.

I would read his 'F*** Christmas' essay every December as a reminder to friends and relatives of where they could shove their phony holiday cheer. Saturnalia? Not interested.

Thanks for the peace and quiet, Harlan.

17 posted on 05/27/2014 11:53:00 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: Charles Martel

I have that book and have read it. I agree that for the most part the changes were justified.

If you look at the Wikipedia article on “The City on the Edge of Forever” you will find summaries of the original treatments.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 11:54:15 AM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

It is easy to spot the Ellison books in my bookcase...they are the ones with the broken spines, creases and dog-eared covers.


19 posted on 05/27/2014 12:00:46 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: EveningStar

Ahhhhhh.....A BOY AND HIS DOG.....the newly divorced man’s favorite movie.


20 posted on 05/27/2014 12:08:28 PM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: All

Ellison at his best...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mj5IV23g-fE


21 posted on 05/27/2014 12:34:02 PM PDT by Borges
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To: EveningStar

Met him once andd have his autograph Arrogant @asshole.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 1:02:09 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: MomwithHope

That’s part of his charm.


23 posted on 05/27/2014 1:14:04 PM PDT by Borges
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To: MomwithHope; Borges
When I was about 18, I went to a science-fiction bookstore in Berkeley, Calif., to attend a book signing by Harlan Ellison. I had a couple of well-thumbed paperback collections for Ellison to sign, and was totally unprepared for the long line of fans, many of them bearing 10 or 15 pristinely preserved hardcover books. The college-age woman in front of me had just such a pile, but was carrying something else too. When she got to the front of the line, she cleared her throat and thrust something toward Ellison. "Mr. Ellison, I wrote a story and you're in it," she said. "You're an elf!"

As Erik Nelson, director of "Dreams With Sharp Teeth," a film about Ellison that just premiered at the South by Southwest Film Festival, observed when I told him the story, that woman was enough of an Ellison fan to want to include him in her literary universe -- but not enough of one to understand just how little he would be interested. Along with the other people in line, I cringed and cowered, expecting a nuclear outburst. Ellison went on signing her books, lifting his eyes from the page only to declare in a level voice, "I don't want to read your ****ing story."
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24 posted on 05/27/2014 1:25:40 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

He was short as I recall, probably did not like being an elf.


25 posted on 05/27/2014 2:13:13 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: EveningStar

“The two most common elements in the Universe are Hydrogen and Stupidity.”


26 posted on 05/27/2014 2:32:30 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: MomwithHope
IMDb lists him at 5' 2½"
27 posted on 05/27/2014 2:44:14 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: MomwithHope

Seriously, it’s considered low class to do what this lady did. And people frequently do this.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 2:47:23 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: EveningStar

I remember an article he wrote about writing for Star Trek and how William Shatner came over to his home on a motorcycle and spilling it on his driveway leaving a mark that he still sees.

He said Shatner was counting the number of lines he had in the script compared to the other actors which made Ellison very mad.


29 posted on 05/27/2014 2:58:52 PM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

I read that same article. Line counting was common back then with some actors. They wanted to have the most lines. Ellison believes Shatner was upset because Nimoy had more lines than Shatner did. Considering Shatner’s ego, that might well be true.


30 posted on 05/27/2014 3:09:04 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Aevery_Freeman; ShadowAce; Jack Hydrazine; Altariel; nuancey; Thorliveshere; skinkinthegrass; ...

ping


31 posted on 05/27/2014 3:13:04 PM PDT by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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> An outspoken gun control advocate, he is responsible for the removal of B-B gun ads from DC Comics. According to a convention transcript printed in The Comics Journal, on a Friday he made a phone call to DC publisher Jeanette Kahn, suggesting that such ads were inappropriate for children. She called him back before the weekend was out assuring him that there would never be another B-B gun ad in a DC comic. In the same transcript, when prompted by Marvel Comics executive Stan Lee (also an advocate of gun control), Ellison admits that growing up with these ads didn’t do him any harm.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0255196/bio


32 posted on 05/27/2014 3:41:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: EveningStar

I have read much of his stuff. Yes he has talent. Yes, he used it in pretty destructive ways. He has plenty of hatred for western society, perhaps just everyone, in his books.

I would not say that I am a fan.


33 posted on 05/27/2014 5:17:30 PM PDT by marktwain (The old media must die for the Republic to live. Long live the new media!)
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To: marktwain

He’s a pretty big defender of the best of western culture. He hates mediocrity.


34 posted on 05/27/2014 5:21:15 PM PDT by Borges
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To: EveningStar

Flaming libtard but a great writer. I still enjoy reading his “Glass Teat” TV columns from the 70’s, lib bias and all. If Ellison were as opinionated a conservative as he is a lib, he and his writings would be banned by the libtard Taliban.


35 posted on 05/27/2014 5:23:01 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: Charles Martel
I glanced through it and noticed some of the changes, but given that it was a prime-time series, I totally understand why portions were rewritten. It's probably the most highly-acclaimed episode of the entire Star Trek franchise, yet Ellison has been bitter about it for decades.

You think he was bitter about that, ask him about what the writers did with "A Boy & His Dog!" Or ask him what he used to think about "She Hulk" in comics (yes, it's been a very long time since I've seen him or spoken to him in person).

Mark

36 posted on 05/28/2014 5:42:09 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: EveningStar
"I don't want to read your ****ing story."

He's repeatedly, publicly said that he will never read any work done that was submitted to him, unsolicited. Besides being far too busy, it would open him up to law suits for "stealing" the work from others.

Mark

37 posted on 05/28/2014 5:47:23 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
You make some great points about Ellison. He is a raving lefty, but some of his rants are pretty darned entertaining. I remember his review of the movie "Gremlins," which I believe he declared as the greatest evil ever hoisted on society.

You're right, "The Glass Teat" collections were VERY entertaining (he reminds me of a more opinionated, self centered, and "potty mouth" version of Camille Paglia.) In his collections of short stories, I often enjoyed his introductions more than the stories themselves. Mark

38 posted on 05/28/2014 5:55:36 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Steely Tom

Highly opinionated, but but he can also be extremely charming and nice. Harlan does NOT suffer fools lightly.

While he’s best known as a writer, my introduction to his work was actually with him as an editor, through his “Dangerous Visions” anthologies. I feel that he is one of the best “Speculative Fiction” editors around.

I rarely agree with Ellison’s opinions on politics, but I credit him with introducing me to a great number of writers that I probably never would have “found” on my own, in particular, Piers Anthony, with his short story, “In The Barn.”

Mark


39 posted on 05/28/2014 6:04:40 AM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.

Haven’t seen the first book, but I found a copy of “The other Glass Teat” in a discount bin years ago, without knowing that it was a follow up book (not exactly a sequel) or that it was just a bunch of columns. It was a fun read — and at the time, columns were all I had time to read at a stretch.


40 posted on 05/28/2014 10:39:15 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Some Fat Guy in L.A.
"...the libtard Taliban"

Now theres a working title right there. Call the publisher...

41 posted on 05/30/2014 11:08:31 PM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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