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Ebola ‘out of control’: Doctors Without Borders
Associated Press ^ | Jun 20, 2014 8:53 AM EDT

Posted on 06/20/2014 6:27:09 AM PDT by Olog-hai

A senior official for Doctors Without Borders says the Ebola outbreak ravaging West Africa is “totally out of control” and that the medical group is stretched to the limit in its capacity to respond. […]

According to the latest figures from the World Health Organization, Ebola has already been linked to more than 330 deaths in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia. …

(Excerpt) Read more at hosted.ap.org ...


TOPICS: Health/Medicine; Society
KEYWORDS: africa; doctorswoborders; ebola; pandemic
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1 posted on 06/20/2014 6:27:09 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

What a nightmare. The Ebola virus is frightening.


2 posted on 06/20/2014 6:28:11 AM PDT by Beowulf9
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To: Olog-hai

Coming soon to a Brownsville hospital near you!


3 posted on 06/20/2014 6:29:12 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Olog-hai

Three hundred thirty-three deaths.

How many deaths does the U.S. experience every year just from influenza? I don’t know, but it is a lot more that 333!


4 posted on 06/20/2014 6:29:20 AM PDT by SatinDoll (A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN IS BORN IN THE US OF US CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: Olog-hai

Wonderful. I wonder how much of it is coming across the southern border


5 posted on 06/20/2014 6:29:48 AM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Olog-hai

You can count on Obama to increase legal immigration from those areas.


6 posted on 06/20/2014 6:30:25 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

Obama and his agents must be thinking hard
how to move a slow moving type of this
to the open southern border of the US.


7 posted on 06/20/2014 6:31:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Gay State Conservative

It will definitely be on our shores shortly, having come through “our future”, the immigrants.


8 posted on 06/20/2014 6:31:09 AM PDT by Individual Rights in NJ (I don't even know what to say anymore..)
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To: Gaffer

I think he should personally go and see how bad things may be on the ground in those countries. Maybe some even have a golf course for him to partake of.


9 posted on 06/20/2014 6:32:19 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping!


10 posted on 06/20/2014 6:33:07 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SatinDoll
How many deaths does the U.S. experience every year just from influenza?

It is the percentage who recover from Influenza which makes it preferable to contracting Ebola, not the bulk number of deaths.

11 posted on 06/20/2014 6:34:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: SatinDoll

CDC doesn’t have a clue:

http://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/disease/us_flu-related_deaths.htm


12 posted on 06/20/2014 6:55:28 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Gaffer
You can count on Obama to increase legal immigration from those areas.

I don't think so. Ebola spreads much more rapidly in crowded areas such as cities (his voters) and among those with weakened immune systems (druggies and gays, two groups Obama identifies with for obvious reasons). I think he'll care about keeping Ebola out, unlike most things he does that harm America. If I'm wrong, this could get ugly (no matter what, I suspect Obama wants things to get ugly, just not in a manner that hurts his voters more than it hurts productive people.

13 posted on 06/20/2014 6:56:35 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Olog-hai; neverdem; ProtectOurFreedom; Mother Abigail; EBH; vetvetdoug; Smokin' Joe; Global2010; ...
Bring Out Your Dead

Post to me or FReep mail to be on/off the Bring Out Your Dead ping list.

The purpose of the “Bring Out Your Dead” ping list (formerly the “Ebola” ping list) is very early warning of emerging pandemics, as such it has a high false positive rate.

So far the false positive rate is 100%.

At some point we may well have a high mortality pandemic, and likely as not the “Bring Out Your Dead” threads will miss the beginning entirely.

*sigh* Such is life, and death...

14 posted on 06/20/2014 7:01:02 AM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: Olog-hai

Those doctors without borders need to be quaranteened for a long period before they are ever allowed to enter the country again.


15 posted on 06/20/2014 7:02:48 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: SatinDoll

This is 333 in a reasonably isolated third world craphole. If it ever gained a foothold in a civilized country within weeks there would be nobody to even pull the cart and cry out “bring out your dead”.

This is not influenza or even close.


16 posted on 06/20/2014 7:05:21 AM PDT by RJS1950 (The democrats are the "enemies foreign and domestic" cited in the federal oath)
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To: Pollster1

He recently lifted a 22 year restriction on people with HIV entering this country. Why on earth do you think he cares about Ebola? Why do you think he’s allowing a near 100,000 children and near-adults with drug resistant Tuberculosis, Chagas, measles, mumps, rubella, flesh eating diseases, mircrobes, spores and other heretofore considered US extinct diseases?

Thinking he’s got to have some limit is worthy of Disney’s Pollyanna....


17 posted on 06/20/2014 7:05:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Olog-hai

We need to bring them to America to save them all.
/sarc


18 posted on 06/20/2014 8:11:01 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SatinDoll

“How many deaths does the U.S. experience every year just from influenza? I don’t know, but it is a lot more that 333!”

With influenza the deaths are primarily the elderly. It rarely kills those who are infected. The population, 330 million or so, hardly notices. But Ebola kills 99% of those infected regardless of age. The potential infection areas in Africa are relatively unpopulated populated. But when it gets to a village it has been known to kill everybody.

If Ebola got to, say, New York, we could be looking at 20,000 deaths per day. People would flee New York and it would go with them and rapidly cover the country. In the 1918 flue epidemic my grandfather went with the sheriff to put a sign on the main road that influenza had reached the town. They were lying in the hopes of keeping people fleeing large cities away. But it was too late. The flu hit their tiny town and killed a hefty percentage. Ebola would likely have killed them all.

That’s the difference. BTW, at the last large outbreak Iran sent “doctors” to collect samples. Imagine weaponized Ebola in the hands of people who think dying for Allah is the best thing they can do.


19 posted on 06/20/2014 8:15:37 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


20 posted on 06/20/2014 8:22:51 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: SatinDoll

From an epidemiology perspective, that is apples and oranges. The mortality rate of novel H1N1 case is minuscule compared to ebola/ hemmoragic fever. H1N1 (common influenzas) really don’t kill you - the complications of it do. Ebola *DOES* kill most infected humans.

It’s bad stuff. Won’t spread much in 1st world countries or amongst populations with decent health and sanitary habits. But still bad stuff.

posting from mobile; excuse typos


21 posted on 06/20/2014 8:33:36 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Gen.Blather

Going to go look it up, but I am pretty sure ebola doesn’t have an airborne human to human vector.

ebola is a contact/ bodily fluids/ contaminated environment AFAIK.

Google and CDC are my friends. BRB.

Point is, not sure it would spread like a Hanta or novel H1N1 would.


22 posted on 06/20/2014 8:37:12 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Beowulf9

Not as frightening as Univ of TX bio prof Pianka who teaches his students he wants an ebola outbreak to take out 90% of earth’s population. Just keeping up the city motto of, “keepin’ Austin weird.” Austin is the blue blight in the middle of a Texas political map with libnut UT being a more intense shade of blue.

http://rense.com/general70/massdeath.htm


23 posted on 06/20/2014 8:39:43 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Gen.Blather

just back from the CDC site. Ebola’s natural reservoir is believed to be bats, with African fruit bats the likely culprit. They are the carriers. contact with the bats and/or their feces/bites is the presumed vector to a human ‘index’.

No identified vector beyond contact and contamination.

SO ... not a typical ‘outbreak’ sort of virus.


24 posted on 06/20/2014 8:41:52 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Coming soon to a Brownsville hospital near you!

Remember a couple years ago when some illegals, after a couple days of mall shopping and spreading germs, took their kid to the Brownsville Hosp. with H1N1 or whatever it was.

25 posted on 06/20/2014 8:42:25 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Diogenesis

It doesn’t have to come through the southern border, all he has to do is send a few airline tickets. Hey, he already brought over thousands of illegal kids so a few infected Africans should be easy.


26 posted on 06/20/2014 8:46:22 AM PDT by bgill
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To: null and void

Add me please and thank you.


27 posted on 06/20/2014 8:51:33 AM PDT by LilyBean
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To: Gaffer
Why do you think he’s allowing a near 100,000 children and near-adults with drug resistant Tuberculosis, Chagas, measles, mumps, rubella, flesh eating diseases, mircrobes, spores and other heretofore considered US extinct diseases?

One would think he'd be concerned with his daughters catching something but he's too far into LaLa Land to realize that could happen. Just because they're surrounded by security and go to a private school doesn't make them immune. Even he's not immune. Just let someone cough in his vicinity or he picks up a germ from a golf cart or the gal at the ice cream shop who makes his cone could pass a bug along.

28 posted on 06/20/2014 8:55:50 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


29 posted on 06/20/2014 8:57:35 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: bgill

He’s not at all concerned about that. He and his family are protected against all ill - foreign or domestic.

He just really doesn’t care. Even if he’s purportedly called Mexico and said they’d have to go back, he knows that won’t happen. It’s all just political maneuvering and he is trying to stem the tide of political disaster for him when the House and the Senate move out of his control.


30 posted on 06/20/2014 8:58:46 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Blueflag

http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1996-04-16/news/9604160114_1_monkey-facility-bites-or-scratches-ebola

Not so fast there with it only being in African fruit bats. Some research monkeys in Texas had it and there was a big scare. I couldn’t find a link (the posted link is, I think, of the same facility but earlier timeframe) but iirc there were some that got loose about 8 years ago and there was a panic to get them back and play the story down.


31 posted on 06/20/2014 9:05:13 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Blueflag
Going to go look it up, but I am pretty sure ebola doesn’t have an airborne human to human vector.

Correct. In this current outbreak the spread has reportedly been caused by people eating bats.

32 posted on 06/20/2014 9:48:15 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Blueflag

Correct, but infected people leak bodily fluids. So a sneeze, cough, blood dripping, and so on spread the disease. Very easy to transfer to caregivers if precautions are not taken.


33 posted on 06/20/2014 10:36:12 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Beowulf9

What a nightmare. The Ebola virus is frightening.


And a person who has it can hop on a plane and be in any large city in the world inside of 24 hours.


34 posted on 06/20/2014 12:34:40 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Olog-hai

“The Hot Zone” (true story)

“The Ebola virus kills nine out of ten of its victims so quickly and gruesomely that even biohazard experts are terrified. It is airborne, it is extremely contagious, and in the winter of 1989, it seemed about to burn through the suburbs of Washington D.C.”

“At Fort Detrick’s USAMRIID, an Army research facility outside the nation’s capital, a SWAT team of soldiers and scientists wearing biohazard space suits was organized to stop the outbreak of the exotic “hot” virus. The grim operation went on in secret for eighteen days, under unprecedented, dangerous conditions.”

“The Hot Zone tells this dramatic story in depth, giving a hair-raising account of the appearance of rare and lethal viruses and their outbreaks in the human race. From a remote African cave hot with Ebola virus, to an airplane over Africa that is carrying a sick passenger who dissolves into a human virus bomb, to the confines of a Biosafety Level 4 military lab where scientists risk their lives studying lethal substances that could kill them quickly and horribly, The Hot Zone describes situations that a few years ago would have been taken for science fiction. As the tropical wildernesses of the world are destroyed, previously unknown viruses that have lived undetected in the rain forest for eons are entering human populations. The appearance of AIDS is part of a larger pattern, and the implications for the future of the human species are terrifying.”

“The first chapter of The Hot Zone is one of the most horrifying things I’ve read in my whole life–and then it gets worse. That’s what I keep marveling over: it keeps getting worse.”
–Stephen King

http://richardpreston.net/preston-books/hot-zone


35 posted on 06/20/2014 12:39:19 PM PDT by chessplayer
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To: Alamo-Girl

You’re Welcome, Alamo-Girl!


36 posted on 06/20/2014 12:44:59 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: headstamp 2
I wonder how much of it is coming across the southern border

The southern border of West Africa?

Oh, you meant of the U.S. -- please tell me about cases in Mexico and southward. Do you honestly think they'd survive the trip north for more than 8 hours or so?

37 posted on 06/20/2014 12:48:25 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: Olog-hai

Can we stop visas from such countries? Or will this be like AIDS and a ton of Americans will be dying soon?


38 posted on 06/20/2014 1:47:16 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Gaffer

He recently lifted a 22 year restriction on people with HIV entering this country.


I missed this news. The CDC does not have our backs. It’s all political bullcrap.

You can come in with HIV but I can’t give blood ever in my life because I lived in Switzerland in the late 1980s. Reason being because there was mad cow in the UK during a small part of that time. So anyone living in Europe, including serving in the armed forces, at that time can’t give blood ever. (In the USA). Even though I wasn’t in England and the Swiss import no English beef.


39 posted on 06/20/2014 1:51:03 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: Olog-hai

thanks for the update. what with everything else,
I can’t keep up on this.


40 posted on 06/20/2014 2:04:01 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: Diogenesis

strict quarantine works IIRC.a a book I read about one
area in Africa years ago detailed a smallpox epidemic;
no one could go in or out. It ended; note that their
food was almost all produced locally and they were without
electric power, etc.


41 posted on 06/20/2014 2:05:50 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: Diogenesis

strict quarantine works IIRC.a a book I read about one
area in Africa years ago detailed a smallpox epidemic;
no one could go in or out. It ended; note that their
food was almost all produced locally and they were without
electric power, etc.


42 posted on 06/20/2014 2:05:51 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: Gaffer

HIV+ people live quite a while, even without optimal treatment. Treating them is a perfect Cloward Piven
strategy.


43 posted on 06/20/2014 2:08:26 PM PDT by cycjec
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To: Olog-hai

All we need is a couple of these kids coming over the border infected with something like this to really screw us up.


44 posted on 06/20/2014 2:09:31 PM PDT by jetson
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To: bgill
One would think he'd be concerned with his daughters catching something ...

You don't really think he cares about them, do you?

Remember his crack about not wanting them to be "punished with a baby"?

That baby would have been his grandchild.

He doesn't care about his grandchildren, he doesn't care about his children, he doesn't even care about himself.

All he cares about is "Death to the Great Satan".

45 posted on 06/20/2014 3:23:01 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping.


46 posted on 06/20/2014 5:53:24 PM PDT by GOPJ (#2 reply spot RESERVED for Tokyo Rose comments: "nothing works - give up - it's all hopeless".)
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To: LilyBean

Done, and you’re quite welcome!


47 posted on 06/20/2014 7:00:53 PM PDT by null and void (In this war, the front line is at your front door...)
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To: carriage_hill

Interesting find. Thanks.


48 posted on 06/20/2014 8:17:48 PM PDT by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: SatinDoll
How many deaths does the U.S. experience every year just from influenza?

Around 40,000 to 50,000 people die from influenza every year.

The big fear about Ebola is its case fatality rate, which is well over 50% and can run up to 90% in some strains. It is spread through contact with infected bodily fluids, so is not as contagious as flu. If Ebola were to somehow become highly contagious, the results could be devastating. However, most viruses show an inverse relationship between lethality and contagiousness--if Ebola is the same way, then it would become less lethal if it became more contagious.

49 posted on 06/20/2014 10:38:43 PM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: Gay State Conservative

More likely the Bronx or Newark. People don’t walk here from Africa, they fly...


50 posted on 06/20/2014 10:41:13 PM PDT by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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