Posted on 06/10/2015 7:45:16 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Asian American students may be at a distinct disadvantage when applying to highly competitive colleges, according to Sara Harberson, a former Ivy League admissions dean.
In a recent op-ed in the Los Angeles Times, Harberson — the former associate dean of admissions at the University of Pennsylvania and the former dean of admissions and financial aid at Franklin & Marshall College — writes that there is always a reason for a college applicant's rejection. In many cases, students are denied admission because they don't have a "tag" associated with their application — what Harberson calls "the proverbial golden ticket for a student applying to an elite institution."
Students with tags may be "recruited athletes, children of alumni, children of donors or potential donors, or students who are connected to the well connected," according to the former admissions dean. However, Harberson writes, "Asian American students typically don't have these tags." As she notes:
Asian Americans are rarely children of alumni at the Ivies, for example. There aren't as many recruited athletes coming from the Asian American applicant pool. Nor are they typically earmarked as "actual" or "potential" donors. They simply don't have long-standing connections to these institutions.
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The data is a bit old but if you look at the years covered the rates stay about the same.
Looking at graduates in four years:
Asians and whites hover around 60%
Latinos: 35-40% Blacks: 25-35%
RE: Our very history with traditional minority preference (quotas, action and preferential emphasis) dictates preference be given to those who cannot compete fairly.
Let’s put it another way — in MANY great colleges around the country, Asian Americans ( especially Chinese and Koreans ) are already DISPROPORTIONATELY represented compared to their population in the USA.
So disproportionate that many students are joking about their own schools. For instance, MIT is known jokingly as Made in Taiwan. UCLA is jokingly referred to as University of Caucasians Lost Among Asians, UC Irvine is University of Chinese Immigrants, etc.
So, you are the admissions dean and you see this phenomenon, what would you do to make the racial balance more (how to put it ) diversified?
Tags include “recruited athletes, children of alumni, children of donors or potential donors, or students who are connected to the well connected.”
The dean omitted the most important tag of all — dark skin.
That's about the long and short of it. Being a "minority" isn't enough, you need to be a dysfunctional and under-performing minority to get the apparatus of the Affirmative Action racket to back you unconditionally.
I thought there were 8 Ivy League institutions??
1. Harvard
2. Yale
3. Princeton
4. Dartmouth
5. Brown
6. Columbia
7. Penn
8. Cornell
are there others??
I don’t care what the makeup of a particular school is as long as the entrance requirements are NOT BASED ON RACIAL PREFERENCE one way or the other. So what if the majority in any given school is one race or another - as long as the positions were competed fairly without preference given to race/color/ethnic origin. I don’t give a rat’s patootie about correcting past injustices or diversity.
That word, DISPROPORTIONATELY, is a pathetic canard for RACISM, frankly. Preference and special treatment is how we got a Muslim President with no provenance at all save that of being half black and possibly a ‘foreign’ student.
I think those are the only “official” ivies, but there are other universities in America that are as difficult to get into if not more so (Stanford, Chicago, MIT, CalTech, etc)
B.S.
With this admission policy plus affirmative action, the Ivies are going to be stuck with dumb legacy + trust fund brats (Bushes, Gores, etc), jocks taking sham classes in communications to get their mandatory "C", and swarms of affirmative action blacks and hispanics who can barely function at a middle school level. So much for the best and brightest.
Obama went to a school (Punahou) that had an active policy of discrimination against Asians because if admissions were by academic merit they would have predominated the student body. In that environment Granny Dunham knew how to play the Kenyan race card for little screw-off Barry
The difference is that they're disproportionately represented by virtue of academic merit, unlike the free ride given to blacks and hispanics who score well below the average for both whites and Asians in grades and test scores. What's being said about east and south Asians today in STEM fields is more or less the same complaint people had 50 years ago about the disproportionate numbers of Jews in academia, medicine, etc.
The universities which want to develop an elite football program do so by hiring a proven coach and then recruiting HARD the high school players with the best prospects.
Do the same academically. Present the challenge to a genuine Nobel laureate in the hard sciences, math & engineering disciplines. Someone like Walter Lewin of MIT, or Richard Feynman.
“We want to to build the finest __________ department (fill in the blank: Math, Physics, Chemistry, Engineering) in the world. One with the reputation and track record of producing outstanding graduates. One with the reputation of having the finest teachers and mentors. You will not be here to feather your nest with research aimed at another Nobel. Your job will be to pass along your fire for knowledge and the tools to obtain it to the next generation of great men & women who will become like you.”
Then send out invitations to “outstanding students who want more than an Ivy League label. We want students who want to become the finest scientist & engineers in the world. You will be accepted or rejected because of who YOU are and your academic achievements, NOT because you are a member of a favored GROUP. If you are rejected for admission, but you feel you have the ability, discipline & drive, spend two years at another institution or the military then reapply.”
Students with tags may be "recruited athletes, children of alumni, children of donors or potential donors, or students who are connected to the well connected," OR BLACK.
You know that is what colleges do. They hate it that their leftist K-12 educators and the liberal ghettos they created raise such idiots. So they put a huge thumb on the scale.
If the Ivys are selling access, you can’t really expect them to give all their spots to whoever best games K-12, because the skill set needed to do that is not the same one you need for succeeding in life.
What I wish they would do is to stop being quite so asleep at the switch because they are picking some real lulus with respect to who gets let in the club.
Looking at graduates in four years:
Asians and whites hover around 60%
Latinos: 35-40% Blacks: 25-35%
They have a lower grad rate because they are under qualified. Private schools give free rides to the capable minorities. Many of the minorities failing out of Berkeley should be at SF State but get scooped up by Cal because they have a nice tan.
Was at Yale last month for a graduation. Tons of Asians represented.
The tag is they cannot be molded into liberal ways.
In spite of being financially well-off compared to other “minorities” and a generally good work ethic, Asians still vote for Democrats disproportionately. What was said about Jews “earning like Presbyterians but voting like Puerto Ricans” is generally true of Indians, Koreans, and Chinese too. Perhaps recognizing that they’re getting the short end of the Affirmative Action stick just as whites are will change this over time.
“asian privilege” ?
once in those schools, the only performance that matters is graduating.
no one cares what grades the kid got. no one.
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