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Most Ruthless leaders of all time
Business Insider ^ | October 7, 2015 | Elena Holodny and Amanda Macias

Posted on 10/16/2015 3:29:36 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy

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41 posted on 10/16/2015 4:27:08 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Yes, Liberals, I question your patriotism)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

how did two Catholics who killed a few thousand and a few hundreds respectively, make the list? :)

There are guys like Hitler and Stalin who killed tens of millions!!!


42 posted on 10/16/2015 4:34:32 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
It is just sad that she has gotten such a bum rap. When Mary died Elizabeth and her councilors had to face the fact that the new queen was hated and no one trusted her.

So, her chief of staff Cecil hired a guy named John Foxe to rewrite history in such a way as to make Elizabeth the better woman.

The fact that laws were passed which made it illegal to print anything countering the regimes lies surely helped their effort.

People make a big deal about 280 people when Elizabeth had 900 executed over the course of nine months called the Rising of the Northern Earls. For starters.

She also hired a man, Richard Topcliffe, who worked as her personal torturer. He had a dungeon in his house and, well, sometimes people died at his hands. He would send info to the queen and there was no middleman between him and the queen. He specialized in killing priests, or at least finding them guilty and having them hung, emasculated, drawn and quartered.

Mary never ordered any deaths, but her sister ordered it all and put England into 45 years of chaos.

To add insult to injury Elizabeth in buried directly over Mary, as if the cathedral where they are buried had not enough room for two royal tombs.

Yeah, it all sticks in my craw.

43 posted on 10/16/2015 4:35:35 PM PDT by Slyfox (Will no one rid us of this meddlesome president?)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
I didn't Oliver Cromwell on the list.
Cromwell enslaved a full 2/3s of the Irish population and sold them into slavery in the Caribbean.
44 posted on 10/16/2015 4:36:55 PM PDT by BuffaloJack (Political Correctness is Suppression of Free Speech. Thank the Commies for Political Correctness.)
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To: Slyfox
Interesting history. It certainly gives some insight into why so many at the time America was founded insisted on the 1st Amendment.
45 posted on 10/16/2015 4:38:35 PM PDT by Idaho_Cowboy (Ride for the Brand. Joshua 24:15)
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To: stormhill
Agree with the general theme; however, I do believe Augusto Pinochet got a bad rap because communists had to divert attention from the economic miracle he created by following the advice he got from Milton Friedman.

Milton Friedman was pilloried for helping Chili and Pinochet. His answer was until their is a Free Market Economy there will be no Freedom. He was right.

List of Heros in the last hundred years:
Milton Friedman for the above.
Winston Churchill
Harry Truman oddly enough, but he dropped the bomb.
Dwight David Eisenhower, no World War he keep us strong.
Lech Valensa, Pope John Paul, Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan. They defeated the evil empire but due to the Obama Administration we must defeat them once again.

46 posted on 10/16/2015 4:41:03 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Franco saved Spain from the communists. Juan Carlos saved Spain from Franco. All in all it was a pretty damn good outcome.


47 posted on 10/16/2015 4:42:56 PM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

A DOJ memo to Obama says the success of universal background checks would depend in part on “requiring gun registration,” and says gun buybacks would not be effective “unless massive and coupled with a ban.”

http://news.yahoo.com/nra-uses-justice-memo-accuse-obama-guns-084745794.html


48 posted on 10/16/2015 4:46:24 PM PDT by ForYourChildren (Christian Education [ RomanRoadsMedia.com - Classical Christian Approach to Homeschool ])
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To: nevergore

He didn’t have you over for dinner?

Guess not, you’re still posting.


49 posted on 10/16/2015 4:48:59 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

So the guy who murdered 77,000,000 is ranked in brutality just above Pol Pot with a measly 2 mil? Below Hitler with a token 21 mil? Below Stalin with respectable 32 mil?

Something is off here ....


50 posted on 10/16/2015 4:50:13 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
If "all time" includes ancient history, I'll humbly suggest a couple of the Assyrian kings, Ashurnasirpal and Shalmaneser III. This is Ashurnasirpal:

“I flayed as many nobles as had rebelled against me [and] draped their skins over the pile [of corpses]; some I spread out within the pile, some I erected on stakes upon the pile … I flayed many right through my land [and] draped their skins over the walls.”

And in another instance:

“In strife and conflict I besieged [and] conquered the city. I felled 3,000 of their fighting men with the sword … I captured many troops alive: I cut off of some their arms [and] hands; I cut off of others their noses, ears, [and] extremities. I gouged out the eyes of many troops. I made one pile of the living [and] one of heads. I hung their heads on trees around the city.”

Real bundle of chuckles, ol' Nassy. His son Shalmaneser was about the same, especially with the flaying and impalement part.

All that and they don't even merit a mention? What's a bloody-handed despot got to do, that's what I want to know...

51 posted on 10/16/2015 4:50:24 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ForYourChildren

The Red China deaths is now rated from 60 Million to 80M or more, while the Soviet Union is about 40 million for the whole Soviet Bloc.

The former/late dictator of Pt. Equatorial Africa killed hundreds of thousands as has Mugabe in Rhodesia/Zimbabwe.

THe Castros and Che killed by execution anywhere from 14,000 on upwards to over 20-30 thousand since 1960, not including the number of Angolans the Cuban troops killed in the 1970’s. Remember this was on an island of maybe a couple million in the 1960’s.

Red China: Add millions of dead in Tibet.

North Vietnam: Responsible for a minimum of 50,000 in their 1950’s Land Reform Programs, an estimated 250,000+ So. Vietnamese troops, over 100,000 civilians (killed and/or kidnapped but never returned); Laos - the deaths of tens of thousands of Meo tribemen and Royal Laotian soldiers and political figures, including in concentration camps; over 80,000 SVN POWS from the war, killed by various means in SVN from 1975 through at least 1986, probably more), and aided in the death of tens of thousands of Cambodians before the Khmer Rouge took-over and committed their genocide).

Ceaucescu of Romania - mass torturer and murderer.

Tito - no one knows how many non-communist Yugoslavians he killed during WW2 (the Chetniks, among others) and in his consolidation of power afterwards.

The Democratic Republic of the Congo, another communist hellhole with tens of thousands or more, deaths.

As the creator and coeditor of the Senate study “The Human Cost of Communism in Vietnam”, 1972, I’m well acquainted with communist terrorism and political genocide (which I studies while there during the war/and in Cambodia).

As a member of a Holocaust devastated family, I’m well acquainted with what the Nazis did, but the Russians, under Stalin, also killed tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands or even millions (re Poland) of Allied soldiers and civilians, or helped the Nazis do it during the 1939 invasion and at the Warsaw Uprising in 1944.

Remember, the Hanoi Lobby says a lot of this never happened in Southeast Asia or even in Red China, or blamed it all on Pol Pot (who was trained by Red China and militarily aided for years by Hanoi).

The cost in lives by Fascism and Communism is well over 100,000,000 and still rising (Peru, Nepal, India, No. Korea, Cuba, Venezuela and those killed during guerrilla wars in El Salvador and Nicaragua in the 1980s).

The Black Book on Communism and newer works will verify the figures I have posted above.


52 posted on 10/16/2015 4:51:37 PM PDT by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper (.)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy

Where’s Castro? He had tens of thousands murdered and hundreds of thousands imprisoned and tortured.


53 posted on 10/16/2015 4:59:41 PM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion)
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To: nevergore

Yeah, ruthless killers who aren’t charismatic end up in the electric chair. Ruthless killers who are charismatic sometimes end up on the throne!


54 posted on 10/16/2015 5:03:40 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: cpdiii

Franco is only on that list because he stopped the Communists destroying Spain.

To suggest Franco was a tyrant is just idiocy, to put him on a list with total lunatic savages such as Idi Amin is completely moronic.


55 posted on 10/16/2015 5:04:34 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: Idaho_Cowboy
Tamerlane was so ruthless that he warned NOT to open his tomb. Centuries later, on June 20, 1941 the tomb in Samarkand was opened despite the warning and THIS is what happened.

On June 20 the tomb of Tamerlane was opened and the mausoleum was filled with sharp choking odor of the mixture of resins, camphor, rose and frankincense. It should be noted that Temur died in Otrar on his way to China. Therefore to bury his body in Samarkand he had to be embalmed. Even the British and French scientists noticed that at the opening of the tombs of Egyptian pharaohs, the air was filled with a sweet scent. At first the Europeans thought that the smell was the sign of a variety of curses, but then it was proved that it was just the smell of oils used in the embalming. So in the case with Timur’s tomb we can say that the smell at the opening of the tomb was not of the curse, but of the oil for embalming.

Two days after the opening of the Timur’s tomb, on the night of June 22, Nazi Germany without declaring the war invaded the Soviet Union. Many people linked it with the opening of the tomb of Tamerlane. Samarkand people were panic-stricken. The expedition was immediately winded up, and the remains of Temur and his dynasty were sent to study in Moscow.

Finally, almost 2 years later, Stalin ordered Tamerlane's remains to be returned to the tomb. At the moment this happened, the course of the war was reversed at Stalingrad. Oh, and guess what? Tamerlane's remains were never touched again.

56 posted on 10/16/2015 5:05:23 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (DUmmie Skinner: Bought & Paid For By Hillary)
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To: nevergore

Of course! He had no interest in you. If however, you were a friar (fryer), you would have been cooked!


57 posted on 10/16/2015 5:18:09 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind but now I see...)
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To: MadMax, the Grinning Reaper

“but the Russians, under Stalin, also killed tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands or even millions (re Poland) of Allied soldiers and civilians”

Stalin killed roughly 29 million, deliberately starved to death, including 5 million in the Ukraine alone, executed, Guglags. Most of the 29 million were actually civilians, specifically his OWN citizens.

So it wasn’t “tens of thousands, maybe hundreds of thousands or even millions”

It WAS millions, 29 million of them.


58 posted on 10/16/2015 5:25:29 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

Gulags even. Doh.


59 posted on 10/16/2015 5:26:13 PM PDT by Lucy Hamilton (Lucy from Occupied Europa)
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To: Lucy Hamilton

I would have put Enver Hoxha on the list, although Albania is a small country in comparison.


60 posted on 10/16/2015 5:28:04 PM PDT by dfwgator
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