Soviet Advisor on the right:
Posted on 12/22/2015 6:54:03 AM PST by C19fan
Well, gee, that's 'cause blood was invented by that Tarantino guy.
Once he figured it out, it splattered every where...even if they got shot in the foot.
Go back in history to the invention of the Stone M16. It was designed to be an end run around the Geneva Convention prohibition of hollow point AMMO. The round was designed to tumble and it had a light copper jacketing that was sure to disintegrate upon impact. Thus way more bang for the buck. Because the round was light, a soldier could carry much more ammo. All in all a brilliant weapon before the army screwed it up, when they chose the wrong powder for the rounds. And the gun always required scrupulous cleaning.
Good point...and there is no "logistical logjam" as a result of Mustafa Bin Sky Hook going down.
His compadres simply know that allah and mohamhead (p p be upon BOTH their heads) will either cure him or send him on to his dubious paradise.
I want the goat humping jihadi to suffer as much as possible, scream, thrash about, moan, groan, call out to his moon-god...so that his fellow goat humping jihadis know that even if allah (p p be on his head) does take him off to paradise, it's going to be one hell of a rocky road.
“I want the goat humping jihadi to suffer as much as possible, scream, thrash about, moan, groan, call out to his moon-god”
You don’t want that if said jihadi is still firing his AK47 at your squad or still running at you or your vehicle wearing a bomb vest.
Interesting as one of the reasons the Army switched to the 1911 Browning .45 was the previous side arm had insufficient stopping power used against fanatical Muslims in the Philippines.
“If it won’t fire, caliber is worthless. That
s why the AK is so ubiquitous. Extreme reliability that takes no skill to maintain.”
It is so ubiquitous because the Soviet Union handed them out like candy to every knuckle-dragging third world terrorist group they could find, and lavishly supplied them to turd-world dictators to gain favor and destabilize half the globe. The various groups of murder-monkeys have stayed with them out of familiarity, like we were equipping the New Iraqi Army with Soviet-bloc equipment because that was the fastest learning curve.
The main reason the 5.56 rounds we fired from our M-16s in Vietnam tumbled was because those M-16 barrels were rifled with one twist in twelve inches (1X12)making the bullet very unstable as it left the twenty inch barrel. As unstable as the bullet was, it wasn't very accurate but was frequently already tumbling when it hit its target even at close range and created terrible wounds in human flesh.
When I saw exit wounds from 5.56 rounds fired from M-16s during the 80s and 90s in Central and South America and saw a 5.56 entry hole and a straight through 5.56 exit hole in human flesh, I knew the M-16 had changed drastically since the Vietnam War. In an effort to make the M-16 more accurate the U.S. had changed the rifling in the M-16 from one twist in twelve inches (1X12) to one twist in seven inches (1X7) making the rifle much more accurate but reducing its lethality to an unacceptable level. The rifling was then changed to one twist in nine inches (1X9) to somewhat increase the lethality with the M-16 and M-4, but it's no where near what it was in Vietnam with its one in twelve (1X12) rifling.
Which seems to me why for the majority of basic fighters, particularly non professional soldiers, the 7.62x39 and the AK would be more real world effective. My accuracy out to 100-150 yds is, for all practical purposes, no different with AK or AR. Also, if I could afford the optics that would make me reliably effective at 500 yards, I wouldn't put them on an AR.
It’ll run dirty, but it has to be well lubed. Lube is more important than cleanliness.
***but M-16 wounds that did not hit something solid usually went out the other side pretty quickly.***
Would that be the original 1 in 14 twist, the later 1 in 12 twist, the 1-7 twist or the 1-9 twist.
I’ve read the original 1 in 14 twist was devastating but the bullet would tumble before it hit the target in cold weather.
The 1x9 twist was for the 62 grain bullet. The 1x7 was for heavier bullets - 69 and up. The optimal twist for the 55 grain bullet is 1x12.
Yes, you are basically making my point. There is no lowest common denominator for skill required to operate & maintain an AK. Cheap to make, effective at short ranges, while simple and reliable enough for any illiterate to operate.
That’s a good thing when a significant number of participants in a conflict are not professional soldiers and not backed up by a military infrastructure.
Can you believe when my first XM16E1 was issued to me in 1964 we were told the weapon didn't need cleaning, because to shoot it was to clean it, and we weren't even issued cleaning equipment for the rifle?
I believe it was against the Hays Code to show blood spurting from a wound. The only ones I can remember seeing that did have blood flow was DOUBLE INDEMNITY and SHANE which shocked the audiences when the farmer (Elisha Cook Jr) was shot by Jack Palance.
Same reason the MARSOC Marines at Pendleton switched back to the 1911 .45ACP from the M9 in the 90s after training with the LAPD SWAT (and now more units are giving the option). But bigger bullet requires more training and ability.
This used to be my understanding as well, but I’ve since learned that it wasn’t the reason the military selected the 5.56/.223: http://anarchangel.blogspot.com/2007/02/okay-so-why-did-we-choose-556.html
Soviet Advisor on the right:
And me on the left? /grin
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