Posted on 07/07/2016 5:47:16 PM PDT by SMGFan
When news broke that John Chos Hikaru Sulu would be revealed in the upcoming Star Trek Beyond as gay in a tribute to original Sulu actor George Takei the revelation was met with an overwhelmingly positive response. Except, as it turns out, from Takei himself.
I think its really unfortunate, the veteran actor and gay icon who came out to much fanfare in 2005 tells The Hollywood Reporter.
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That would be an even bigger slap in the face to fans. Not only is Spock explicitly shown to be straight in the TV series and ALL previous films (Star Trek goes into great detail about "Pon Farr", the Vulcan male mating urge to reproduce with females, and that Spock was betrothed to T'Pring since childhood)... but Gene Roddenberry HIMSELF also PERSONALLY debunked the Kirk/Spock gay sex fantasy fan fiction in his novelization of Star Trek: The Motion Picture, by having Admiral James T. Kirk state that homosexuality does not exist on Vulcan and IF it did, Kirk is straight as an arrow and would hardly want to take a "mate" that only has sex every seven years anyway.
The gaystapo will never admit it, but even though the "progressive" Gene Roddenberry was very friendly to the idea of having an open gay person appear on Star Trek, he was adamantly against messing with any of the existing straight characters and turning them "gay" for PC purposes.
I just wanted to get my “logical” joke in.
Where’d you get that Roddenberry info?
Star Trek: Beyond Gay
To boldly go where lots of men have gone before.
Well, I certainly wasn’t being pedantic. I know there is a real cult following. Hope I didn’t offend.
God’ll get you for that, Walter.
I call it “Faux Trek: Beyoncé”, but yours will work, too.
This Faux Trek abomination has literally ruined every character entirely. If this crap had been what premiered 50 years ago, it would’ve been about as well remembered as “My Mother, The Car.”
Kirk, the whiny, angsty runway teen model.
Spock, the angry, horny-for-Uhura, dork.
McCoy, the what happened to my blue eyes, not believably grumpy Gary Mitchell lookalike.
Scott, the clownish twit with a silent midget alien sidekick, whut ?
Sulu, the Chinese(!) non-entity, now magically a meatsicle lover.
Uhura, Black Rollergirl with a ‘tude.
Chekov, 5th Grader on Speed. (RIP)
These people are all supposed to be trained military professionals, college graduates, for which you never doubted on TOS. I don’t buy any of them as such, they’re all special snowflakes that would melt under 10 minutes of Gunnery Sergeant Hartman’s rapier tongue at Parris Island. What a gee-awful mess.
and your father smelt of eldeberries!
(no charge)
Gonna be a fruit in the next star wars too.
All the money I’m saving.
Hell, if there’s TWO characters in a movie, one will be gay these days
I agree. Takei has ALWAYS been liberal. Since he "came out", he's ALSO been very vicious and mean towards anyone who doesn't agree with his agenda as well. Weird that he's become some kind of Twitter "star" now that he's in his 70s.
But the fact he's willing to stand up for the integrity of his character and point out its a butchering of the source material gives him kudos from me. If this rumor is true, I pray the morons in Hollywood listen and delete the "gay Sulu" scene.
Patrick Stewart also gets brownie points for me because he spoke out against forcing Christian bakers to make "Celebrate Gay Marriage" wedding cakes, even though Stewart himself is ultra-liberal and loudly pro-gay marriage.
Still, gay agenda aside, it would be no difference than if Hollywood tried to pander to ME by saying "We've never had an openly Catholic character on Star Trek, so Captain Kirk is going to reveal in the next film that he's Catholic and goes to Mass every Sunday and prays the rosary every night in his quarters". I'd oppose it for the same reason: it does not fit with the way the character has been portrayed for decades, and it is an insult to the way Gene Roddenberry established the Star Trek universe. They could create a new character that is very similar to modern day religious Catholics to tell a compelling religious story and use sci-fi as an allegorical device. But they couldn't make Captain Kirk INTO a Catholic without seriously insulting the source material.
"Sulu is gay and married to a man" is right up there with the last film's "Khan is a white British guy" revisionism.
Still, I'm going to take a wait and see approach. I skipped Deadpool in February because the filmmakers were crowing that he was "openly pansexual" but then I saw the film on DVD and that wasn't the case at all. The only character he hits on in the film is a female. A lot of the internet "rumors" trying to generate "buzz" for a film are just that, rumors.
But if they screw up the 50th anniversary of Star Trek and give us ANOTHER shallow action movie that insults the source material, fans WILL go on the warpath and it will be the end of the JJ Abramsverse. Stick a fork in her, she's dead, Jim.
That made me snicker; thanks.
This story sounds even more depressing, if its true. It says Takei was told about the “tribute” to him and met with the director/writers trying to talk them out of ruining Sulu, but it was in vain and his protests fell on deaf ears:
http://io9.gizmodo.com/george-takei-tried-to-convince-the-team-behind-star-tre-1783306619
You said what was on my mind pretty much.
The problem is less that there’s a gehy character around.
It’s more that it’s a “LOOK AT ME! LOOK AT ME! PRAISE ME FOR MY LIBERALISM!” moment.
I looked up pedantic, but still don’t understand what you mean. Yes, I’m a huge fan. Read hundreds of books about Star Trek. Used to read novelizations of the scripts.
There are millennial source material fans?
Cho’s portrayal of Sulu is terrible, utterly boring and lifeless. These idiots think that by making him a flamer, it will make his character more interesting. They’re wrong. Add to that, with all the complaints in Hollyweird regarding casting, he will be a STRAIGHT man playing a gay character. You’d think gays would be up in arms demanding an actual gay Japanese-American actor assume the role.
Wait, they made Sulu Chinese too? I didn’t notice. What’s the evidence of that?
Maybe it’s a different guy with the same name and hobby (fencing). I think I’m gonna go with that.
“Uhura, Black Rollergirl with a tude.”
LMAO!!
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