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CrowdStrike: a Conspiracy Wrapped in a Conspiracy Inside a Conspiracy
Frontpage Mag ^ | Nov 29, 2019 | Oleg Atbashian

Posted on 11/29/2019 5:17:25 AM PST by Openurmind

In the last few days, media talking heads have been saying the word "CrowdStrike" a lot, defining it as a wild conspiracy theory originating in Moscow. They were joined by Chris Wallace at Fox News, who informed us that president Trump and his ill-informed fans believe in a crazy idea that the DNC wasn't hacked by the Russians but by some Ukrainian group named CrowdStrike that stole the DNC server and brought it to Ukraine , and that it was Ukraine that meddled in our 2016 election and not Russia.

A crazy idea indeed. Except that neither Trump nor his fans had ever heard of it until the Democrat-media complex condescendingly informed them that these are their beliefs.

Let's look at the facts:

Fact 1. In 2016 the DNC hired the Ukrainian-owned firm CrowdStrike to analyze their server and investigate a data breach.

Fact 2. CrowdStrike experts determined that the culprit was Russia.

Fact 3. The FBI never received access to the DNC server, so the Russian connection was never officially confirmed and continues to be an allegation coming from the DNC and its Ukrainian-owned contractor.

Fact 4. Absent the official verdict, other theories continue to circulate, including the possibility that the theft was an inside job by a DNC employee, who simply copied the files to a USB drive and sent it to WikiLeaks.

None of these facts was ever disputed by anyone. The media largely ignored them except for the part about the Russian hackers, which boosted their own, now debunked, wild conspiracy theory that Trump was a Russian agent.

Now that Trump had asked the newly elected Ukrainian president Zelensky to look into CrowdStrike during that fateful July phone call, the media all at once started telling us that "CrowdStrike" is a code word for a conspiracy theory so insane that only Trump could believe in it, which is just more proof of how insane he is.


TOPICS: Conspiracy; History
KEYWORDS: 20190725; alperovitch; chriswallace; conspiracy; conspiracytheories; crap; crowdstrike; dnc; fakenews; hacking; russia; russianpropaganda; sethrich; strawdog; strawman; thumbdrive; ukraine; ukrainian; zelensky
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To: Openurmind

Oleg’s not so accurate...


21 posted on 11/29/2019 6:50:37 AM PST by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and how few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: oincobx
Re: “CrowdStrike is a US based, publicly traded company listed on the NASDAQ.”

Significant omissions in that statement.

CrowdStrike was founded in 2011 and went through five rounds of private start up funding before going public on NASDAQ about six months ago.

To my knowledge, the original funders, in round one and two, have never been publicly identified, except by corporate names.

Also - CrowdStrike did research in the Ukraine in 2016 on Russia hacking. Other cyber security companies have challenged CrowdStrike's conclusion that Russia hacked into Ukraine's military communication system.

Bottom Line - no major USA news corporation has ever seriously investigated CrowdStrike.

22 posted on 11/29/2019 6:54:55 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: zeestephen

>>>How come Trump, Trump’s lawyers, and Trump’s media people did not publish this same information months ago?

Because it is easily debunked.

1. Crowdstrike is not an obscure Ukranian owned company. It is a leading, US based cybersecurity firm that is publicly traded on the NASDAQ.

2. The founder is not a Ukranian oligarch. He is Russian born US citizen who worked at McAfee prior to starring his own firm.

3. There is no missing server secreted away to Ukraine. CrowdStrike was the firm the Democratic National Committee called in 2016 after the organization discovered that hackers had broken into its email and chat systems and stolen data. As part of that remediation, the DNC, CrowdStrike, and government investigators had to decommission more than 140 servers, remove and reinstall all software, including the operating systems, for more than 180 computers, and rebuild at least 11 servers.

When CrowdStrike or another firm investigates an incident, they typically don’t physically remove a client’s devices. Instead, they make “images” of the hard drive and memory of every relevant device so that they can preserve a sort of snapshot of the compromised systems.

In other words, there is no missing server. There’s no physical box locked away in a vault somewhere. There are simply copies of what the DNC’s systems looked like at the time of the attack, which both CrowdStrike and the DNC confirm were shared with the FBI during the investigation.


23 posted on 11/29/2019 6:56:36 AM PST by oincobx
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To: griswold3

“crowdstrike is always followed by the word ‘debunked’. Should raise interest of curious people”
.....
Same thing as “Joe Biden “.
They think by repeating debunked enough, it will become truth.


24 posted on 11/29/2019 6:59:50 AM PST by redshawk ( I want my red balloon. https://youtu.be/V12H2mteniE)
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To: SauronOfMordor

There are several good reasons to believe that what Crowdstrike reported about the DNC server need to be independently reviewed.

1. The information they used to verify that Gucifer 2.0 was the Russian hacker was so amateurish that it almost looked like he was putting a label on the hack to point to Russia.

2. The FAT block data on the Wikileaks emails indicate they were locally copied from their original source not transferred over higher latency internet connections. The VIPS organization that did this analysis has briefed Sec. Pompeo and is awaiting feedback on their conclusions.

3. It makes no sense for a Russian spy agency to hack the emails and then give them to Wikileaks. Besides raising their visibility unnecessarily it nullifies any true blackmail or coercion potential they might have and is just not the way intelligence agencies work. They don’t care who wins elections, they only want to control or influence whoever wins.

4. Julian Asange himself has denied the emails came from a state actor like Russian and confirmed that it was from a DNC insider source. One published news report that was based on a personal meeting with Asange indicated this person was Seth Rich but the story has since disappeared on the internet and can not be confirmed.


25 posted on 11/29/2019 7:06:21 AM PST by Dave Wright
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To: Dave Wright
There are several good reasons to believe that what Crowdstrike reported about the DNC server need to be independently reviewed.

It was independently reviewed. By the FBI.

All of the forensic materials gathered by Crowdstrike, including images of the servers and data storage, were shared with the FBI who conducted their own analysis - which agreed with Crowdstrike's.

26 posted on 11/29/2019 7:15:09 AM PST by semimojo
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To: Track9
Re: "CloudStrike is US owned."

CrowdStrike stock is sold on Nasdaq.

The primary owners are concealed behind corporate shell investors.

I spent 15 minutes reading SEC filings, and I still can't figure out who owns large chunks of shares.

The current market cap (number of stock shares X stock price) is $12.7 billion.

“Short” interest is a staggering 42.6%.

By comparison, the “short” interest in hugely speculative Tesla is just 17%.

27 posted on 11/29/2019 7:17:31 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: American in Israel

ABSOLUTELY Correct! There’s a whole world of news out there that people are missing if they aren’t watching OAN. The rest of it is just fake/news...politics...repeat.


28 posted on 11/29/2019 7:20:49 AM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Congress is not made up of leaders however they are representatives of their voters.)
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To: oincobx

I don’t have time to answer your post until this evening.

However, thanks for posting all the MSM and Democrat Party talking points.


29 posted on 11/29/2019 7:25:47 AM PST by zeestephen
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To: oincobx

Please educate me.

I read that when Crowdstrike was involved with the DNC server it was not a public NASDAQ company and it’s primary owner was a Russian/Ukrainian. Dmitri Alperovitch. It is now based in California and is a large company, but in 2015-16 it wasn’t.

Crowdstrike now 2019, and Crowdstrike then 2016 are two very different things.

Crowdstrike was also involved in false reports in the past
https://www.voanews.com/usa/cyber-firm-rewrites-part-disputed-russian-hacking-report

They were basically obscure, DNC linked, Russian/Ukraine linked, foreign born controlled in 2016. They have been ‘wrong’ about ‘Russian’ attacks in the past.

You stated things about Crowdstrike in 2019, but failed to review what they were in 2015 and 2016, and failed miserably to give an explanation why one company, who never gave a final report, was the ‘sole’ reviewer of the DNC server. A company who wasn’t ‘huge’ in 2015 and 2016.


30 posted on 11/29/2019 7:29:18 AM PST by Pete Dovgan
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To: ThePatriotsFlag; nathanbedford; Alberta's Child; chris37
But wait, there's more.

The endgame was US war with Russia, with the casus bellorum provided by people in Ukraine acting in their own interest.

Now, the Ukrainians working this angle had allies in the US State and Defense departments. The "let's you and him fight" crowd never had total control of policy (Victoria Nuland I'm looking at you) but internal power dynamics at State were definitely involved.

There was plenty of precedent for the US armed forces being fooled (seduced is probably a better word) into taking on enemies of other countries by disguising their self-interest as us fighting for "freedom" or "democracy".

The color revolution, the Maidan events, the installation of a Deep State friendly government went smoothly.

Insuring the election of HRC was a step too far - but it was a near run thing, with results still not totally known - although I believe things are looking up at last.

It's not just the biggest political story in US history - it's the biggest political story in WORLD history. I suspect, if and when the whole story is known, that the Ukrainian forces behind this will turn out to have been a minority of a minority.

31 posted on 11/29/2019 7:46:51 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Jim Noble

Absolutely...


32 posted on 11/29/2019 8:30:23 AM PST by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Pete Dovgan
I read that when Crowdstrike was involved with the DNC server it was not a public NASDAQ company and it’s primary owner was a Russian/Ukrainian. Dmitri Alperovitch. It is now based in California and is a large company, but in 2015-16 it wasn’t.

You're right that it didn't go public until this year, but by 2015 it was a rapidly growing company well known in its field.

The company was founded by a couple of executives from McAfee who had grown frustrated by McAfee's approach to cyber security.

Alperovich was one of those executives. He was born in Russia (Moscow, not Ukraine), and came to the US with his family when he was 15.

They were basically obscure, DNC linked, Russian/Ukraine linked, foreign born controlled in 2016.

Or you could say they were a rapidly growing firm founded by well-regarded, mainstream American cyber security executives with no known links to Ukraine or the DNC.

...failed miserably to give an explanation why one company, who never gave a final report, was the ‘sole’ reviewer of the DNC server.

Of course, they weren't the sole reviewer.

They provided the FBI all of their forensic materials including server and disk images. The FBI did their own, independent investigation.

33 posted on 11/29/2019 8:35:34 AM PST by semimojo
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To: zeestephen

https://atlanticcouncil.org/expert/dmitri-alperovitch/

Crowdstrike owner is an Atlantic Council officer. Members of the council itself include one Eric Ciaramella, as well as many minor players in the Democrat gotcha game.


34 posted on 11/29/2019 8:47:26 AM PST by pnut22
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To: ThePatriotsFlag

Chris Wallace is auditioning for a job with one of the heritage networks. He cares little what the FOX audience thinks of him.


35 posted on 11/29/2019 9:34:15 AM PST by Bookshelf
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To: semimojo

Alperovich is not by any chance related to Gar Alperovitz, the “leading cold war revisionist historian”, is he?


36 posted on 11/29/2019 9:59:25 AM PST by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: American in Israel
Then turn off the tv 📺 Freerepublic is ALL the news. Period Thank you Jim !
37 posted on 11/29/2019 10:23:58 AM PST by Truthoverpower (The guv mint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: zeestephen

Guaranteed CloudStrike is tied to the Clintons BEFORE they needed their services to cover for the DNC break in. Which means they personally KNOW and have had services from some of the CS principles. The Seth Rich murder is directly connected.


38 posted on 11/29/2019 12:05:53 PM PST by Track9
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To: Openurmind

Seth Rich bump. Assange bump.

5.56mm


39 posted on 11/29/2019 12:08:43 PM PST by M Kehoe (DRAIN THE SWAMP! BUILD THE WALL!)
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To: Openurmind

For later.


40 posted on 11/29/2019 12:19:17 PM PST by Chgogal (Never underestimate the stupidity of a DummycRAT voter! Proof: California, New York, Illinois....)
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