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Warfarin Replacement?
Today’s Geriatric Medicine ^ | December 2013 | Mike Bassett

Posted on 09/08/2020 9:27:12 AM PDT by ConservativeMind

New atrial fibrillation drugs possess significant advantages over warfarin for reducing the risk of embolic events such as a stroke or peripheral embolism.

Patients with AFib have an especially high risk of blood clots that can lead to stroke. Warfarin (Coumadin) has been the gold standard for stroke prevention in patients with AFib for the past 50 years. But to be effective, warfarin requires careful monitoring.

Within the last several years, the FDA has approved several new anticoagulants as alternatives to warfarin: dabigatran (Pradaxa), a direct thrombin inhibitor; rivaroxaban (Xarelto), a factor Xa inhibitor; and apixaban (Eliquis), also a factor Xa inhibitor.

In testing these drugs’ efficacy against warfarin’s performance, the newer drugs showed some significant advantages. All were studied in large clinical trials of between 14,000 and 19,000 subjects—and all showed that these drugs were equal to warfarin or superior in reducing the risk of embolic events such as a stroke or peripheral embolism.

“By a significant percentage—30% to 40%—there was a reduction in stroke or systemic embolism,” Sheikh says. “And all of these drugs did it with at least equivalent safety or, in some cases, even greater safety.”

Additionally, there are dietary restrictions associated with warfarin that aren’t necessary with the new anticoagulants. Warfarin works against vitamin K, which the liver uses to make blood-clotting proteins, reducing the liver’s ability to use vitamin K to produce these proteins. So if a patient on warfarin eats too many foods with high levels of vitamin K, such as leafy greens or liver, it can affect warfarin’s metabolism. “It could either get very high or very low and increase the risk of bleeding or stroke,” Sheikh says. “But with these new drugs you don’t have to worry about these types of food interactions. People can eat what they want.”

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TOPICS: Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: atrial; fibrillation; geriatric; medication
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The Money Quote: “Additionally, there are dietary restrictions associated with warfarin that aren’t necessary with the new anticoagulants. Warfarin works against vitamin K, which the liver uses to make blood-clotting proteins, reducing the liver’s ability to use vitamin K to produce these proteins. So if a patient on warfarin eats too many foods with high levels of vitamin K, such as leafy greens or liver, it can affect warfarin’s metabolism. “It could either get very high or very low and increase the risk of bleeding or stroke,” Sheikh says. “But with these new drugs you don’t have to worry about these types of food interactions. People can eat what they want.””
1 posted on 09/08/2020 9:27:12 AM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: Sacajaweau; catnipman; BiteYourSelf; Ruy Dias de Bivar; Moonman62; Salamander

Ping to all of you.


2 posted on 09/08/2020 9:36:50 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Something better than rat poison . . . whouda thunk???


3 posted on 09/08/2020 9:37:27 AM PDT by RatRipper ( Democrats and socialists are vile liars, thieves and murderers - enemies of good and America.)
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To: ConservativeMind

Eliquis....................


4 posted on 09/08/2020 9:41:02 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: RatRipper

And this is an article from 2013, so there should be other options now, too.


5 posted on 09/08/2020 9:41:38 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: ConservativeMind

My buddy was on Xarelto and it worked very well. Then his insurance decided it didn’t want to pay for that anymore and forced him onto Coumadin.

Skin issues, light sensitivity, overall malaise. He even needed to see a dermatologist.

He’s still trying to get back on Xarelto. A-hole insurance...


6 posted on 09/08/2020 9:42:08 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: RatRipper

While better for a fib there are still some conditions that require coumadin. As always talk with your doctor before making any change


7 posted on 09/08/2020 9:42:49 AM PDT by Mom MD
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To: ConservativeMind

Thanks for posting my husband just had a stroke about a month ago. Only clue was ability to speak got him to my cardiologist and MRI showed a stroke had occurred
Dr could not find significant risk factors artery clogs or irregular heart beat nor high BP. Put him on 325 aspirin looked at Cholesterol ( only 140) and said let’s shoot for zero cholesterol.
Put him on 40mg Crestor
We will get full results of heart monitoring in a week.
I put him on a glass of red wine daily. Glad better drugs coming forward.


8 posted on 09/08/2020 9:44:57 AM PDT by magna carta (TX all you have to do is send an email to principal with a witness included on the communication.)
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To: ConservativeMind

The actual money quote:

“Sheikh notes that the newer drugs are expensive...”


9 posted on 09/08/2020 9:45:09 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Red Badger

Eliquis...you too?
;>)


10 posted on 09/08/2020 9:45:12 AM PDT by Covenantor (We are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who can not govern. " Chesterton)
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To: ConservativeMind

Maintenance costs are lower (fewer office visits, no need for regular tab tests (INRs) and fewer risks which lead to better outcomes.

In Canada, new, higher cost anticoagulant drugs like Apixaban have to be paid for out of pocket because the state will only pay for the very cheap Warfarin which carries a much higher overhead.


11 posted on 09/08/2020 9:47:20 AM PDT by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: ConservativeMind

“Coumadin requires careful monitoring”

Yes, you really should monitor your rat poison levels. Don’t want to lose control of that.


12 posted on 09/08/2020 9:47:48 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom ("And oft conducted by historic truth, We tread the long extent of backward time.")
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To: ConservativeMind

“Eliquis”

States on the bottle and their web site, “Not for people with artificial heart valves.”


13 posted on 09/08/2020 9:48:22 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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The list price for a 30-day supply of ELIQUIS is $471
The average retail price of a 30-day supply COUMADIN is $12.53

Factor in cost of intermittent Protime/INR blood tests and Dr. visits


14 posted on 09/08/2020 9:50:09 AM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Paladin2

With my insurance I pay $50 for a 90 day supply of Eliquis. Without the insurance it would be over $1,600.


15 posted on 09/08/2020 9:51:23 AM PDT by ph_balanced
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To: ConservativeMind

4 years ago, I was diagnosed with A/Fib, was not put on any of these drugs.

Then, we joined the big West Coast HMO, and they did a lot of tests, and I was put on apixaban (Eliquis), also a factor Xa inhibitor.

I take the drug twice a day. There are no dietary restrictions nor lab tests.

In January of last year, I had a stent installed and was kept on Eliquis, plus one baby aspirin a day and another blood thinner for a year post stent. If someone looked at me, I bruised. Then, the other blood thinner was stopped, and my bruisin basically stop.

We are on the Med. diet with a lot of green stuff and no problem.

I have been on apixaban (Eliquis) basically 3 years and no problems.


16 posted on 09/08/2020 9:52:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (11/3/2020! VOTE FOR JOBS! NOT RIOTING BLM/ANTIFA/DEM/MOBS! POLICE FOR US! NOT JUST FOR THE ELITE!!!)
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To: Covenantor

Yep, for two months after my quad by-pass................Not on it now, praise the Lord!.................


17 posted on 09/08/2020 9:53:08 AM PDT by Red Badger (Sine Q-Anon.....................very............)
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To: Covenantor

Me too


18 posted on 09/08/2020 9:53:19 AM PDT by leftee
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To: ConservativeMind

This isn’t new. I’ve been on Eliquis for a year.


19 posted on 09/08/2020 9:55:12 AM PDT by Ace's Dad (Trump 2020!)
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To: ph_balanced

I wonder what the manufacturing costs would be with and without Chinese manufactured components.


20 posted on 09/08/2020 9:56:01 AM PDT by Paladin2
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