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SS Screwup Takes My SS Check Away
FreeRepublic ^ | 8/21/21 | Chuck Ness

Posted on 08/21/2021 1:39:50 PM PDT by OneVike

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I ask that you please bear with me as get something off my chest. I have been somewhat calm, yet quietly angry inside for the last 5 years. However,
something happened today that is finally making my frustration meter reach the ballistic stage. Before I start going Rambo on some bureaucrats, I need to
get this all off my chest. This will be long, but what I am sharing with you is what my life has been like in the last 5 years.

I turn 65 on September 17, next Month. Now I have been collecting my SS check for 3 years, and in less than one Month I am set to begin getting my well
earned medical insurance which I qualify for at 65. Yet I received this letter today from the SS administration. In it, they never tell me what information they
need. Yet they already passed judgement. Allow me to rant as I offer some history.

Thanks to Obamacare, I lost my private insurance 5 years ago after I turned 60. Until then I had above average insurance policy my employer offered at very
little cost to me, because they graciously picked up 95% of the cost of the premiums. Well after 30 plus years my insurance was terminated when the
company premiums went up to over $500 a Month. Plus they were facing another increase come 2017. Thanks to Obamacare, after about 3 years of
escalating costs, the company was spending over $million a year for employee insurance.

Well, instead of paying the exuberant premiums the small family operation was forced to close shop. This left me and all other employees without a job and
no insurance. They gave us a severance stipend, but at 60, I was expecting to retire in 5 years in a much better situation financially. All that was
gone. Wiped out by Obamacare.

So on January 1, 2017 I lost my $50,000 plus a year job, my great insurance, and met expected retirement. . So for the last 5 years I have struggled to get
work, and I had no insurance. I did had my IRA money to help make ends meet, but that was supposed to be my retirement, and I did not expect to tap into it
for some time. OK. like everyone back then I did my share of complaining, but I put it all in God's hands. My wife who is a paraplegic has never worked, so
between her disability benefits and what jobs I could find we managed to eek out an existence. Our home was paid for, so I was not in as bad of shape as
many.

As I watched my nested become smaller by the Month, come 2018 I decided I needed to start collecting my SS retirement check early, and it helped us out.
Then later that year in November, the Campfire burned down town of Paradise California. Paradise was 8 miles from our home, and as we watched the fire
burn we wondered if we would lose everything. Fortunately for us it never advanced towards us. Now I originally figured I would retire early, since we owned
our home, and just spend our leisure years taking it easy. A little less perky, but retired just the same. However, the fire changed everything. Then after the
town of Paradise burned down leaving thousands of friends homeless or out of work, we decided it was time to leave the state.

So we sold our house. Mind you, we could have sold our house for almost $200,000 more than it was worth, since many people who lost everything
started bidding wars for any old house being sold. However, being a good Christian, we sold it for what the market value was before the fire. We were not
going to benefit from someone else's misery. The sale of the house was finalized before we could find a suitable place in Idaho, but even though the sale was
final, we had an agreement with the new owners that we would not leave until we found a place in Idaho. Figuring it would not take long.

Well, it took longer than we expected. So we packed everything up in one of the biggest rental trucks we could find, which was twice the going rate
because everyone one was abandoning CA. We ended up staying in a motel for a Month before we found a home. I want you to picture us in a motel room
with two 120 pound German shepherds. Every noise caused them to bark. They finally moved us as far away from the office and other rooms as possible
because of the dogs, and even threatened to kick us out. I believe they would have if it were not for the fact my wife is a paraplegic and needs a wheel chair
and handicap accessible room. It would not have been go PR for that. So they put up with us and our dogs for the Month.

At the time, a decent home in Idaho was going for an average of about $150,000 to $300,000 each. However do to a housing shortage because of the
influx of people moving to Idaho, bidding wars began happening, and houses were disappearing off the market as fast as they went on the market. Soon the
the average price of a decent home jumped to $280,000 to $400,00 each. So while I was the niece guy when we sold our home, we ended up paying almost
as much for a home in Idaho that we sold our home for in CA.

I had originally expected to have extra money after the move. Unfortunately we ended up about even, with a home that was not nearly worth what we
were forced to pay. We did end up purchasing a brand new home however, but we also sacrificed some things we wanted. We ended up 50 Miles North of
Boise in Payette ID on the Idaho/ Oregon border. Right where the Payette and the Snake rivers converge. I figure God is in control, so we moved in and started
making the best of things.

I got a job across the border in Oregon as a driver for a company that delivers invalids and elderly to and from Dr apointments. It was a perfect job for an
older guy who just drove around transferring patients. from p[lace to place. I loved it, and I always get along with people so I was perfect for the job. However,
because the company deals with Idaho and Oregon, the state with the most extreme regulations is the one the company must abide by. In this cased Idaho
has more stringent regulations than Oregon. Yea, shocked me to. Well after about 6 Month I was called into the office one day and told they had to let me go.
Turns out I could not keep the job because of a long ago forgotten conviction of contributing to the delinquency of a minor.

The minor in question was my wife. Back in 1987, we were on a road trip in Montana, drinking some beer and having a good time of it. My problem was I
did not know the driver was as drunk as she was. Or back then I didn't care. Stop, I know. Well my future wife an I were passengers in the back seat of the car
when the driver missed a curve and drove right off a 35 foot embankment. The car flipped and eventually landed on all fours in the thicket of weeds and
bushes right next two a pretty good sized creek. It was just about a mile from Norris Hot Springs.

Well the driver was ejected and broke her neck. She died instantly. My girlfriend was ejected and landed on the bank of the river, breaking her back
and severing her spina cord. To this day she is a paraplegic. We got married a few years later. Mind you, we have been together now for 34 years since that
accident happened. Now, because I was over age, and the girl who was driving was under the drinking age, I was convicted of contributing to the delinquency
of a minor. OH, I did not purchase any alcohol, the driver did, but I was a passenger and the authorities needed a pound of flesh, and they got from me.

As I said it was near Norris Hot Springs which itself is like 20 miles from Virginia City Montana. At the trial I plead guilty, what could I do, by law I was. Now
the judge told me if plead the case, and kept my nose clean for a year the conviction would be expunged from my record. So I did, since then I figured it was
long forgotten. However, 32 years later I found out they never expunged my record. Gee, what a shock. Now Idaho tells me I can never work around children,
the elderly, and neither can I ever work for any medical establishment in the State of Idaho, and since Oregon mimics Idaho's more stringent rules I can never
work in those positions in Oregon either. So, I lost the job.

A Life Changing Road Trip
an account of the facts I
wrote about the accident

Things were beginning to pile up. So I decided to apply for a disability. See I have been diagnosed as being legally deaf, because a birth defect in my ears
makes it difficult to hear in situations when there are a lot of other noises. The noises do not have to be real extreme. Its the combination of noises that
confuse my ears. Interestingly, back in 1973, the military did not notice, because back then the military did not do intensive ear exams. Until I was almost 58 I
never knew I had a problem. Oh I knew I did not hear as good as others, but never knew it was as bad as it was until years later. My wife, family, and friends all
used to tell me I should have my ears tested, and maybe get a hearing aid. Me? I am hard headed so I refused to admit it was that bad. Besides, I was real
good at reading lips in certain situations where external noises made it difficult.

Well I finally caved and got my ears tested. Turns out I am deaf to many sounds I never knew existed. Now I know why the music from a portable radio
sounds as good to me as an expensive stereo does to others. The expensive ones are a waste of money for people with bad hearing. Turns out my problem is
with deciphering certain tones. As the meter tracks what I hear, the meter reaches a certain point and it drops like a rock. At one point I respond that I can
hear the tone, the next point I hear nothing. I remember wondering why the tester took so to give me another beep. Later I asked the doctor, "I guess I need a
hearing aid huh?" To which the doctor tells me that a hearing aid will not help me, because what is wrong is that something is missing in my ear. I was born
with a defect that no one knew, because I never complained.

See I growing up with 7 brothers and sisters, there was always someone talking or fighting, with the radio playing or noise from the television. Everyone
just figured I was a quiet kid, and even a bit slow. Years later they realized I have an above average IQ, and they were the slow ones not me. I just though
everyone heard like me. I do know that because of other noises I started reading lips to go along with sounds I could understand and it worked. I still do. I
have been accused of refusing to look people in the eyes, when in fact I look at their lips to properly understand the words I am hearing.

So I asked my doctor. "So tell me, does this mean I cannot hear certain sounds and maybe even struggle hearing some people speak?" To which he tells
me, "well Mr Ness, in rooms with a lot of people you may not be able to properly understand what people talking about. Plus some peoples voices could be at
a such tone which is indistinhuishable to your ears. If your back is turned from them you will hear, but may misunderstand what you hear." Now I know why I
never enjoyed concerts, bars scenes, or big parties.

I then asked the Dr "So tell me Doc, does that mean that some women's voices might be harder for me to hear properly?" To which he shook his head and
said, "OH sure, that is very good possibility." So I then asked him, "Could you write that down so I can explain it to my wife, and could you send a copy to my
two ex-wives?" He laughed and asked, "Do you really think they will believe me?" " I replied, "My present wife might". Later I told her, and she shrugged it off
by claiming I just wanted an excuse as too why I ignore her. OH well.

So back to me applying for disability. Because after my financial troubles of losing the job I decided to apply for disability insurance. After all, it was the
government who screwed me over with Obamacare, and while I hate taking something for free, they owe me this time. So I applied. Three Months later I
received a letter from them that I was denied because the value of my IRA was too high and that my income level had to drops below $10,000 before I would
be eligible for disability payments.

Now I was back to square one. Well, at least I was making ends meet. So I began doing handyman jobs and while I was new to Idaho I was able to do some
jobs. Although they were few and far between. I figured in time my reputation would be built and I would get some good work. Them one day I was helping a
contractor do some work, and while I was coming down off a ladder, it seems someone pulled the air hose which pulled the air compressor to the bottom of
the ladder. I did not see it, and tripped backwards taking the full brunt of the fall right on my high elbow. It cracked like a watermelon, and swelled up like one
also.

Well, NO INSURANCE. and I was getting paid cash, so no compensation neither. This would cost me out a lot of money I scarcely had to spend. What with
emergency room bill, x-rays, MRI's, and follow up Dr appointments it started draining what expendable funds we had. So I started dipping into my IRA again. I
was already a newcomer to the area with little friends and fewer contacts, and add in the fact that most people want younger workers, things were looking
bleak now because I was out of work for 6 Months heading into the Winter. Add to the fact I am turning 65 soon, and most want to hire younger men.

Then just as I thought I thought I could get back out looking for jobs to do, Trump was tricked into shutting down the country. Now things took a turn
for the worse. Once things started opening up I was able to find some jobs. Thank God. Then one by one I began getting calls from clients that the price of
materials were too high for them to do what they wanted to do. So again, being the new guy around, those who had long standing reputations in the area
were sucking up what jobs were still available.

So long story I know, but I wanted to set things up so you can truly appreciate my frustration and anger.

All the while, ever since we moved to Idaho, one of my prize AKC German Shepherds has been dealing with a weird rash on her stomach that has had us
returning to the Vet for tests and ongoing pills to fix. Eventually they diagnosed her an auto immune problem that makes her allergic to something in the
ground where we live. They tell us that it is something that other dogs in this are are suffering from. Now sadly, many have put their dogs down because they
cannot afford the costs of medication and vet bills. One guy had two bull dogs he dropped off at the shelter, which in turn they had to put down.

You heard about the "Boy In A The Bubble?" Well we have a dog that needs a bubble it seems. Her vet bills has run into the thousands of dollars in the
last year alone, and they are no closer to solving the problem. She is fine after taking steroid pills, but then within a Month we are back at the vet with the
same. problem.

I know, I know, put a bullet in her head and bury her. That is the harsh fix I get from some friends believe it or not. However, my wife and I have no
children. I have children and grandchildren from my first two wives, but in the 34 years with my wife, Sharee, she has never gotten pregnant. So her
children are our shepherds, and I would no sooner put them down over financial troubles than I would a teenage girl or boy. Yet, I know I cannot lastforever without some relief.

So I turn 65 next Month and I am finally going to get relief by getting my medicare insurance started. With every passing Month we seem to be hit with more unexpected expenses. Mind you my IRA which kept me from getting disability has now almost shrunk to the point that I may soon be eligible for disability.

After I finished walking the dogs by the river, I checked the mailbox and pulledl out this letter from the SS Administration, that tells me I will not be receiving my SS
check. I'm like, EXCUSE ME?!!! That is not all though. While I have yet to start my medicare, the letter goes on to tell me they will still charge me for my medicare premium.



As I said in the beginning, I have been somewhat calm, yet quietly angry inside for the last 5 years. However, my level of frustration has finally reached the
ballistic stage. Mind you, there are other things I could add about what my wife has gone through, but those are more expected considering her condition.
Her problems come from the accident we were in 34 years ago. So I cannot lay those at the feet of anyone but us. I just wanted to share the many things that
have frustrated me in the last 5 years since the Obama virus infected my world in late 2016. If things do not change soon, I swear I am going to go Rambo on
some bureaucrats. If I lose my Monthly SS check, it could be devastating to us.

I have never been one to worry the sky is falling, but take a stroll in my shoes and you may understand why I begin to start worrying that one day I will
need to have some type of life altering procedure done, but because I refuse to get a vaccines shot that the hospital with blackmail me into getting one. Then
due to an adverse reaction, I'll end up drooling on myself while sitting in the corner of a room at the county hospital half comatose for the last 15 years of men
life, If I live that long. While my wife is left alone with having to care for herself.

By the way, while In have had my share of injuries through my life, I have never been one to get sick. Me getting sick is a 24 hour bug that I am over with
faster than it takes to sleep at times. Never in my life have I ever gotten flu shots, and I do not plan on starting now. Not with some illness that has a higher
survivability rate than a baby in the womb does these days, and I do not see them cracking don on abortions.. In the last year there have been 650,000
abortions in America, while 9,300,000 females of child bearing ages has taken the morning after pill. Sorry, but there has not been more than 10,000,000
people ending up dead form the damn KungFlu.

So, I now will go down to the SS office on Monday and try my best to be kind enough not to be kicked out as I try to get to the bottom of this SS problem

Thanks for listening to my rant. I feel much better now.


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1 posted on 08/21/2021 1:39:50 PM PDT by OneVike
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To: OneVike

TL;DR


2 posted on 08/21/2021 1:46:39 PM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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To: OneVike

tldr;


3 posted on 08/21/2021 1:46:40 PM PDT by A Cyrenian (MO's state motto: Let the welfare of the people be the supreme law.)
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To: A Cyrenian; CarmichaelPatriot

You cool kids know all of the slang.


4 posted on 08/21/2021 1:54:23 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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To: OneVike
TL;BSR. Too Long But Still Read.

Dealing with bureaucracy has to be the worse experience ever. Hope your meeting goes well. At least not so bad as jail time for acting like I would.

5 posted on 08/21/2021 1:55:25 PM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (⭐⭐To the left, truth is right-wing extremism.⭐⭐)
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To: OneVike

1. DO NOT GO TO YOUR LOCAL OFFICE WITHOUT AN APPOINTMENT. Because of COVID, you have to have an appointment.

2. Do not call on a Monday; everyone else will be calling too. Call on Wednesday after the office has been open about an hour; that should cut your time on hold.

3. Not knowing the reason they’re cutting off the Social Security, it’s hard to say what the next step should be. I would suggest filing an online non-medical appeal. https://secure.ssa.gov/iApplNMD/start

4. A friend of mine had a similar issue earlier this year (getting a letter saying his SS was being stopped). Turns out, he had incorrectly told SS he was getting earned income every month when he also retired at 62. He hadn’t been; he misreported his defined benefit pension. Once he provided the information/proof he wasn’t working, they reinstated his SS *and* calculated his backpay for what they withheld the past 3 years due to his *earned* income. He didn’t even miss a month of SS.

Not saying that’s the reason for your situation, just a suggestion of what can happen. Oh, and he never went to the office; it was all done over the phone.


6 posted on 08/21/2021 1:57:28 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (~Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged.~)
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To: OneVike

I have actually found the ss people to be very good. You often get the best service on the phone after you make up.yout online account. Good luck


7 posted on 08/21/2021 1:59:03 PM PDT by Chickensoup (Voter ID for 2020!! Leftists totalitarian fascists appear to be planning to eradicate conservatives)
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To: TangoLimaSierra

I know people on SS disability for legitimate and serious disabilities. People who need a lot of medical care and have no way of paying for it. It’s a total mess dealing with the SSA.


8 posted on 08/21/2021 2:01:47 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them )
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To: Spirit of Liberty

yeah its probably a simple straight forward thing to resolve.

its a similar situation to when you get a letter from the IRS. Write an informative response and they are satisfied.


9 posted on 08/21/2021 2:03:17 PM PDT by ChronicMA
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To: Spirit of Liberty

Thanks for the tips. I will do that


10 posted on 08/21/2021 2:03:38 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

You left identifying info on that picture! The BNC number and the QRC barcode. Suggest you ask the mods to delete your post.


11 posted on 08/21/2021 2:11:23 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Claiming Racism, the antidote to personal responsibility)
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To: OneVike

I work for a state agency, so I understand your frustration. I don’t deal with SS but I do deal with Medicare on the fringes so I have a nodding acquaintance with both.

If you can’t get it resolved, then my next suggestion would be contacting the local (not DC) office of your Congressman. They have people who help with constituent issues; I’ve been on the receiving end of those contacts. Put your tax money to work.

Good luck!


12 posted on 08/21/2021 2:12:07 PM PDT by Spirit of Liberty (~Truth does not mind being questioned. A lie does not like being challenged.~)
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Full disclosure; I have not read your post, too long-winded.

But are you SURE this letter is LEGIT and not an elaborate SCAM to extract more personal information from you? I guess that if you did not receive your payment it is legit but perhaps some sort of shenanigans stopped your payment to begin with?

I wish you the best. Prayin' for ya!

13 posted on 08/21/2021 2:13:34 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing (Get off my back for my usage of CAPS, especially you snowflake males! MAN UP!)
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Wow, please let us know how this turns out. My experience with the SS office is you have to make an appointment. I continued to work way after my SS kicked in so when I did retire I wanted to activate the Medicare Part B. I tried to make an appt. during the Covid lock down and the building was shut down. I found the right form on line and filled it out and mailed it back for both me & hubby. Several weeks later I got a phone call from someone working from home who could activate mine but not his because they didn't have his form. They were mailed in the same envelope. It took 5 months to finally get our Part B activated.
14 posted on 08/21/2021 2:14:53 PM PDT by Bearshouse
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To: OneVike

Well, everyone has lots of problems.
I am glad to hear that you are a good Christian. But telling us that sort of might negate your reward. (Do your good deeds in secret ...)
Anyway, I am not so sure that I would say that you were being a good steward by selling property for $200k less than it was worth. Maybe ... God was giving you a way to recover that $50k per year that went away.
I get it that we are all in a lot of hurting. And it will likely get much worse pretty fast.
Hope that you can see God’s hand in what is going on. It is very hard for many of us.


15 posted on 08/21/2021 2:15:24 PM PDT by Honest Nigerian
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To: NonValueAdded

I removed them all

but thanks for the concern. Serious. Thanks.


16 posted on 08/21/2021 2:16:25 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: Spirit of Liberty

Thanks I’ll keep that in mind as I go through the process of getting things cleared


17 posted on 08/21/2021 2:18:22 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

It’s legit. It came with other paperwork. I just shared what you see, and removed all pertinent info.

But thanks for the concern


18 posted on 08/21/2021 2:19:38 PM PDT by OneVike (Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike

At 65, my SSD changed to regular SS. That is, instead of it being paid out of the disability part, it is now paid out of regular SS. The amount did not change.

As their letter said, contact them. That is the only way you will know what is going on.


19 posted on 08/21/2021 2:22:45 PM PDT by TomGuy (!)
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To: OneVike

Sorry to hear of all this. Bureaucracy is something that easily sends me off the deep end. I’ll pray on it.

Oh, and do a couple shots of whiskey before going into the SS office. Won’t help help solve the problem, but may help putting up with the bullshit.


20 posted on 08/21/2021 2:23:15 PM PDT by Made In The USA (Ellen Ate Dynamite Good Bye Ellen)
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