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GREENWALD: "Trump's failure to pardon Assange and Snowden was one of the worst and most cowardly mistakes he made"
twitter ^ | June 18 | Glenn Greenwald

Posted on 06/18/2022 6:13:25 AM PDT by RandFan

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To: Guenevere

Truth hurts.


61 posted on 06/18/2022 8:36:18 AM PDT by TTFlyer (Lenin: that by the infliction of terror, a well-organized minority can conquer a nation.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

You have no idea about security clearances.


62 posted on 06/18/2022 8:38:27 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: ClearCase_guy

“If Trump gets in again, he needs to swing for the fences and have no fear of anyone.”

Personnel IS Policy.

But the corrupt Senate won’t let him get who we need. Because, the Senate is corrupt.

America can’t be saved with Mitch and Corynn running the Senate.


63 posted on 06/18/2022 8:38:45 AM PDT by Basket_of_Deplorables (Putin is behaving rationally.The war is on Biden and Obama. )
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To: Lumper20

I’m not referring to security clearances


64 posted on 06/18/2022 8:42:33 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

Need to KNOW! Add same security clearance or higher. I was also in TSN unit.


65 posted on 06/18/2022 8:44:41 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Lumper20

Still not talking about security clearance.

Nor is the article.


66 posted on 06/18/2022 8:45:57 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: billakay

So, you’re saying the Chinese and Russians let him hang around because they were feeling generous.


67 posted on 06/18/2022 8:49:49 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Krosan
"Rachel Maddow, as a reward for feeding liberals demented conspiracies, was just rewarded by Comcast with a contract for $30m/year: $2.5 million/month. Yet few journalists object or call her a "grifter". Why? Because she works for a huge corporation, so they see it as legitimate."

—Glenn Greenwald

68 posted on 06/18/2022 8:49:58 AM PDT by Drew68 (Ron DeSantis for President 2024)
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To: airborne

“ Trump must have been shocked to discover just how large and deep the Deep State swamp is.”

I do believe that Trump had no real idea going in just what Washington D.C., the uniparty and the federal bureaucracy were. He believed they were captured by ideology and were not very bright people. He even understood that they were deeply corrupt.

But he had no idea whatsoever how maliciously evil they were. (Something that honestly amazed me, I know who these people are…I think it was obvious what they were and are…but I guess perspectives can be different). It was his greatest flaw in dealing with them and with the federal behemoth. The bottom of the well of evil there can never be found.

I strongly suspect he really gets it now.


69 posted on 06/18/2022 8:53:54 AM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast (Make Orwell Fiction Again)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

This truth is Assange used the punk.


70 posted on 06/18/2022 9:00:15 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

This truth is Assange used the punk.


71 posted on 06/18/2022 9:00:29 AM PDT by Lumper20
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To: Guenevere; MinuteGal; M Kehoe

“I don’t appreciate this from Greenwald even though I have generally liked his writings”

Greenwald (who is gay by the way) is a Libertarian, which is why Tucker Carlson (who once was and probably still is or leans that way a Libertarian) has Greenwald on his show all the time.


72 posted on 06/18/2022 9:03:32 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior Advisor))
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To: RandFan

Too soon. It would have sent the message that leaking government secrets is okay.


73 posted on 06/18/2022 9:04:16 AM PDT by x
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To: Brookhaven

“But now the US has charged an Australian citizen, who was not in the US, of breaking US law? It’s absurd.”

He is being extradited to the U.S. and therefore will be on U.S. soil to be charged for breaking U.S. law.


74 posted on 06/18/2022 9:06:18 AM PDT by flaglady47 (Donald J.Trump, President in 2024 - DeSantis for VP (or Senior Advisor))
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To: RandFan
He got scared by threats from GOP Senators that they'd vote for impeachment if he did it.

Blame the political blackmailers, not Trump. Trump was trying to stay there for the good of the whole country, as against two controversial figures little understood by the general public.

75 posted on 06/18/2022 9:06:41 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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To: Lumper20

Assange accepted documents from a wide variety of sources... acting as a journalist outside the USA and was a non-citizen.


76 posted on 06/18/2022 9:21:15 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion (Fraud vitiates everything. )
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To: flaglady47

I do know this……but Greenwald minded his p’s and q’s and wasn’t calling Trump a coward


77 posted on 06/18/2022 9:29:27 AM PDT by Guenevere (“If the foundations are destroyed, what can the righteous do?”)
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To: Guenevere
What’s with Greenwald throwing around the word ‘cowardly’

Greenwald inserted himself into both the Snowden and Assange situations early on. IIRC, he was helping Snowden find safe houses while he was still on the run, and also viewed and defended Assange from the libertarian viewpoint, national security precedents be damned.

Here's an article that gives a certain amount of factual background; even though it is from the New Republic, a leftish publication:

Would You Feel Differently About Snowden, Greenwald, and Assange If You Knew What They Really Thought?

78 posted on 06/18/2022 9:38:14 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (“Government is the problem.” --Milton Friedman)
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To: flaglady47

So, a foreign citizen has to follow US law because they might be extradited to the US?

So, if you were extradited to China to be tried for criticizing the Chinese government, that would be OK?


79 posted on 06/18/2022 10:03:26 AM PDT by Brookhaven (Ted Cruz said Jan. 6 was terrorism)
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To: flaglady47

Hi.

Here’s the problem. Assange didn’t steal anything, but published “State” secrets from many countries. A or the Deep state(s) want him dead.

Even though Assange did the world a favor, he might be too hot to handle.

Snowden on the other hand stole state screts and exposed the federal Deep State. Which we all knew existed in some form.

See above for Mr. Snowden’s fate.

5.56mm


80 posted on 06/18/2022 10:04:46 AM PDT by M Kehoe (Quid Pro Joe and the Ho got to go.)
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