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Scientists say their device can pull water from the air to create green hydrogen
AsiaOne ^ | SEPTEMBER 06, 2022 | Holly Chik

Posted on 09/12/2022 5:14:47 PM PDT by nickcarraway

An international team of scientists say they have found a new way to extract water from bone-dry air to produce hydrogen, which they call “the ultimate clean energy”. Unsplash

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An international team of scientists say they have found a new way to extract water from bone-dry air to produce hydrogen, which they call “the ultimate clean energy”.

The researchers said the device could be used in an arid environment where relative humidity was as low as 4 per cent — meaning green hydrogen could potentially be created without using liquid water.

Average relative humidity is around 20 per cent, for example, in the Sahel desert in Africa and Uluru in the Central Australian desert.

“Moisture in the air can directly be used for hydrogen production via electrolysis, owing to its universal availability and natural inexhaustibility,” the researchers wrote in a paper published in peer-reviewed journal Nature Communications on Tuesday (Sept 6).

The team of chemical engineers — from the University of Melbourne, University of Manchester and Chinese Academy of Sciences — said there were 13 trillion tonnes of water in the air at any moment. Electrolysis is the process of using electricity to split water into oxygen and hydrogen. When the process is powered by renewable electricity, the green hydrogen is “the most promising energy carrier of the low-carbon economy”, the scientists said.

Hydrogen can also be used as a storage medium for energy that is not continuously available, such as solar, wind and tidal power, they said.

But a global geographic mismatch between renewables distribution and fresh water supply makes it difficult to produce hydrogen in places where drinking water is a priority, according to the paper.

It pointed to North Africa, West and Central Asia, Midwest Oceania and the southwest of North America as areas where there is a shortage of fresh water but potential for solar and wind power.

To overcome the problem of not having enough water to create hydrogen, the scientists designed a device that uses porous materials — like a melamine sponge — soaked in electrolytes to absorb moisture from the air. It then splits the captured liquid water into hydrogen and oxygen. That process could be powered by a solar panel, a wind turbine or other renewable generators.

The team’s prototype machine is 1 square metre and can produce 93 litres of hydrogen per hour, according to the study. The device was tested to produce hydrogen of high purity for more than 12 days in a row at 40 per cent relative humidity without any liquid water added.

Study co-author Fan Xiaolei, from the University of Manchester’s chemical engineering department, said the device had several advantages.

“A lot of places with abundant renewable energy sources have limited water supply. Instead of competing for scarce drinking water, the device collects water from the air – which can hardly be used by humans anyway — to produce hydrogen,” he said.

“The production process also makes use of excess renewable energy, which could go to waste if not stored or sent to power grids when they have reached maximum capacities.”

Fan said the development could also be significant for chemical makers that use green hydrogen as a feedstock and renewable energy to reduce their carbon footprint, giving ammonia production as an example.

Hu Guoping, a researcher with the Ganjiang Innovation Academy at the Chinese Academy of Sciences and also a co-author of the study, said hydrogen could potentially be transported to cities via gas pipelines when the device is scaled up.

“When China reduces the share of natural gas in its energy mix in the coming decades, the existing pipeline network can be used to transport hydrogen from the west to the eastern coastal cities,” he said. “At a smaller size, the device can be run in remote areas to power daily life.”

Lead author Kevin Li Gang, a senior lecturer at the University of Melbourne’s chemical engineering department, said the team planned to enlarge the device and explore other applications for it.

Li said it would be expanded to 10 square metres in the third quarter next year so it could produce enough hydrogen power in a day for one family.

He estimated that if it were scaled up to the size of a tennis court powered by solar energy, the device would be able to produce enough hydrogen to fuel 400 cars a year.

“We expect the product to be ready for market launch by the end of 2025 at the size of 1,000 square metres and operating in deserts, cold regions and places with storms,” Li said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: doublystupid; hydrogen; hydrogeneconomy; science
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To: calljack

“If you are going to build a system that needs a lot of water and the resulting product will be transported hundreds of miles to be used,”

1. You don’t need a lot of water

2. It is not going to be transported hundreds of miles

3. https://www.universalclass.com/i/course/reading-comprehension-101.htm


21 posted on 09/12/2022 5:58:48 PM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

That’s why hydrogen can enter metals.


22 posted on 09/12/2022 5:59:24 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“I used to be nothing but a Deplorable Clinger, but I've been promoted to Brigadier Ultra-MAGA”)
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To: adorno

Yes, they have. The power required makes in economically unfeasible.


23 posted on 09/12/2022 6:02:13 PM PDT by suijuris (Once a man learns to see he finds himself alone in the world with nothing but folly.)
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To: nickcarraway

“The spice must flow”


24 posted on 09/12/2022 6:06:31 PM PDT by RedMonqey
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To: nickcarraway

Survival stills for use in the desert have been around for the last sixty years.


25 posted on 09/12/2022 6:07:29 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: TexasGator
“Why didn’t somebody think of that before?”

The have.


I know. It was just a sarcastic question.

But, like a lot of other things, everything old is new again at some point. ;)
26 posted on 09/12/2022 6:16:42 PM PDT by adorno
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To: nickcarraway

Hmmm...take water from desert air when there are lakes and rivers and ocean alloverdaplace....genius..why not dry out the deserts more?.... The bugs and low moisture requiring plants won’t mind..hubrisosity city.


27 posted on 09/12/2022 6:18:45 PM PDT by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and diamonds, and harder to find.)
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To: nickcarraway

“Commence Operation....Vacu-Suck!”


28 posted on 09/12/2022 6:20:43 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway
Hmm, Hydrogen huh? A perfect fuel?

Nothing could happen there right?

Anybody remember the story of that old German blimp, what was it's name, Oh I remember now,

The Hindenberg.

29 posted on 09/12/2022 6:21:40 PM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? I love animals. See? There's one there, right next to the potatoes!)
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To: adorno

“But, like a lot of other things, everything old is new again at some point. ;)”

What is new is the source of water combine with solar power.


30 posted on 09/12/2022 6:26:31 PM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Nothing magical about running H2 through piping. It is done on a daily basis in refineries in the Reformer units and Hydrodesulferization units. Be careful at flanged connections for H2 leakage. Hyrogen flame is invisible and you definitely don’t want to walk through one.


31 posted on 09/12/2022 6:29:15 PM PDT by 353FMG
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To: TexasGator
What is new is the source of water combine with solar power.

Source of water?

Solar power? The sun?

It's just people (scientists?) trying to make it seem like an impossible project made possible.

Why do things the hard way?

Water is everywhere, including the air and oceans and rivers and lakes, and clouds and even underground, and can even be transported.

I still fail to see the big advantage or a good reason to do things the hard way.
32 posted on 09/12/2022 6:32:01 PM PDT by adorno
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"Another problem that I can think of is that hydrogen molecules are so tiny that they can escape from nearly anything."


33 posted on 09/12/2022 6:34:44 PM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: suijuris

“Yes, they have. The power required makes in economically unfeasible.”

Solar power is very feasible in remote sunny locations.


34 posted on 09/12/2022 6:36:14 PM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: 353FMG

“Green” was in the article. Trigger word for FReepers causing all logic and reasoning to be discarded in favor of ignorant comments and crude jokes.


35 posted on 09/12/2022 6:38:34 PM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: pfony1

Pixie dust and (drum roll) LUCKYDAYSIUM!


36 posted on 09/12/2022 6:43:54 PM PDT by Migraine ( )
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To: adorno
"Solar power? The sun? Water is everywhere, "


37 posted on 09/12/2022 6:46:30 PM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: adorno

“I still fail to see the big advantage or a good reason to do things the hard way.”

Dude. If you lived in a village that had no electricity and little water you would be singing a different tune.


38 posted on 09/12/2022 6:50:25 PM PDT by TexasGator ( )
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To: TexasGator

I know about the deserts, but...

why do the electrolysis out there, when, like I said, water is everywhere? Electrolysis can be done with abundant water elsewhere, and then the hydrogen can be transported to where it’s needed, including the desert. It wold still end up more cost-effective if done away from the desert.


39 posted on 09/12/2022 6:54:19 PM PDT by adorno
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To: TexasGator
Dude. If you lived in a village that had no electricity and little water you would be singing a different tune.


See post #39.
40 posted on 09/12/2022 6:56:04 PM PDT by adorno
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