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The Mystery Of The Uncontrolled Hatred Of Fossil Fuels And Those Who Produce Them
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 11 Mar, 2024 | Francis Menton

Posted on 03/13/2024 4:25:13 AM PDT by MtnClimber

What is it about fossil fuels [PETROLEUM products] and the people who produce them that brings forth such uncontrolled hatred, anger, and vengefulness in a very large segment of the population?

I’ve been trying to figure out the answer to that question for many years, but I’m no closer today than when I started. I look at the use of fossil fuels in the world, and somehow I see enormous benefits to mankind — reliable electricity, transportation of people locally and at long distances, and of freight to enable worldwide trade, comfortable heating and cooling of homes, refrigeration to preserve food, computers, and so much more, all at remarkably low cost and remarkably small environmental impact. Most uses of fossil fuels either have no good substitutes (e.g., air travel, ocean shipping, steel-making), or only substitutes that have both higher cost, plus inferior functionality and/or their own environmental problems (e.g., wind, solar, or nuclear for electricity).

With almost no exceptions (e.g., the Unabomber) everybody who has access to fossil fuels or their energy output uses them in large quantities, precisely because they provide great benefits at low cost and low environmental impact, in ways that nothing else can. Even the most virtue signaling of climate fanatics, with almost no exceptions, won’t give up air travel, or buildings made with steel and concrete, or full-time life-saving electricity at the hospital, or plenty of other things that come only from fossil fuels.

The image that I can’t get out of my mind is the spectacle of the witnesses speaking at a public hearing I attended in May 2022 on the subject of the “Scoping Plan” then proposed for New York State to banish fossil fuels from its energy system. (That Scoping Plan has since been adopted, with essentially no significant changes.). As I reported in this post on May 3, 2022, I observed about 60 people testifying at this hearing, of whom only three spoke critically about the idea of banishing fossil fuels — and those three were myself plus two representatives from local utilities (whose criticisms were understandably mild and hedged, to say the least, given the political environment that they face).

At that hearing, a large number of supporters of banning fossil fuels gave impassioned and emotional pleas to speed up the process. What had aroused these strong emotions? The witness whose testimony I remember most vividly was a thirty-ish woman who stated that her young son had severe asthma, which she blamed on the fumes emitted by her gas-powered kitchen stove. Speaking of the health problems of her son, this woman broke down in tears and deep sobs, which definitely seemed genuine, and blamed the son’s problems on the uncaring gas utility. And yet for some reason she continued to use the gas stove. Had it never occurred to her that it was completely within her agency to go out and buy an electric stove? I was hoping to get a chance to ask her that question, but she disappeared before I could track her down.

In the years that I’ve been following this subject, the efforts to impose punishments and revenge on fossil fuel producers in this country have only proliferated and become more impassioned and more intense and more angry. Here are a few markers along the way:

- In this post on January 24, 2018 I reported on lawsuits that had just been brought by certain cities in California, and by New York City, both against a group of five major oil companies, blaming them for the “nuisance” of CO2 emission, and asking for some large and unspecified amount of damages plus some equally unspecified injunctive relief. I nominated those cases for the prestigious title of “stupidest litigation in the country,” based on the proposition that I couldn’t figure out what they were really trying to accomplish. I asked, if it’s money they want, why don’t they impose a tax on fossil fuel purchases; but then I answered my own question: “Oh, wait a minute, they already have that. Well, they could double it!” Ultimately, the cases could only be understood as vengeful political acts against irrationally hated adversaries.

- The New York case from January 2018 ended up getting dismissed in the District Court, and that decision was affirmed by the Second Circuit Court of Appeals, while the California case that I had discussed continues to this day to kick around the courts after a convoluted procedural history. So would this long stint in purgatory be the death of this type of effort to exact revenge on large oil companies for the sin of producing fossil fuels? The opposite. Such cases have proliferated like mushrooms in the years since. Here is a May 2023 post from a Columbia Law School blog with some extensive history of cases taking the same or very similar form. According to author Korey Silverman-Roati, “In total, at least 25 [similar] cases have been filed in California, Colorado, Connecticut, Delaware, Hawai’i, Maryland, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York, Rhode Island, South Carolina, and Vermont.”

- Nearly all of these cases were brought in state rather than federal courts. (The exception was the New York City case — the one that ended up getting dismissed.). The occasion for the May 2023 Columbia blog post was that the Supreme Court had just denied a certiorari petition that had been filed in several of the cases seeking to get them removed into the federal courts. With that Supreme Court action, there are now somewhere around two dozen of these cases moving forward in one state court system or another. The plan is to exact massive financial revenge against these evil oil companies.

- And how about another line of attack seeking to destroy these fossil fuel producers? It now comes to my attention that there is a campaign to introduce bills in state legislatures (all in blue states, to the extent I have learned so far) seeking to impose on fossil fuel producers an obligation to fund a type of “superfund” mechanism to pay the states large amounts to “mitigate” supposed climate damage. Here is the text of such a bill recently introduced in the Vermont legislature in 2024, and here is another one from my own New York from 2023. I’m given to understand that comparable bills are somewhere in the works in other states, including Massachusetts and Maryland. I have the same question that I had about the “nuisance” lawsuits: Why not just impose a tax? The only answer I can think of is that a mere tax does not give a sufficient demonstration of anger and revenge.

- And now for the most recent escalation, to yet another whole new level. Yesterday, there appeared in the left-wing magazine The New Republic an article with the headline: “The Case for Prosecuting Fossil Fuel Companies for Homicide.” I’m not making this up. Brief excerpt (from a long article): “Climate change is not a tragedy, it’s a crime.” This refrain, increasingly common among climate activists, encapsulates rising moral outrage at major fossil fuel companies like ExxonMobil, Chevron, Shell, and BP as more information has come to light about their knowledge and conduct regarding global warming.” You might think that this is completely unhinged, but believe me, the authors (and the “climate activists” that they refer to in the quote) are completely serious. Their anger is intense, and their goal is revenge.

And yet at the same time, all of the people engaged in these campaigns of anger and vengeance are major users themselves of the fossil fuels. If these products and their producers are so evil, wouldn’t a better strategy be to go out and produce substitutes that are better and cheaper and lack the environmental downside? Ah, but those better substitutes don’t exist. The world is investing trillions in the effort to come up with such substitutes, but so far nobody has succeeded. And by the way, nobody is going to succeed at this during my lifetime.

So far, the overall strategy of the major energy companies has been to lie as low as possible and hope that before long these people will come to their senses and this will all blow over. That may have made sense when this started. Ten years ago, I would not have believed that this insanity could possibly have gone as far as it has. However, given where we are today, I think that the time for lying low has passed.

Here’s my proposal for the next phase of this game. The fossil fuel producers, either individually or through trade associations, should pick a state, logically a relatively small one (Vermont might be a good place to start), and go to the legislature with this proposition: Ban us! Make the sale or use of fossil fuels in your state illegal, starting at some early date, like for example tomorrow. We will then withdraw. And your citizens will then find out whether they prefer life with fossil fuels, or without them.

In other words, stop being such pansies. It’s time to call their bluff.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Science; Society
KEYWORDS: petroleum
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To: MtnClimber

It’s an old ploy, beat the stocks down then accumulate for the inevitable rise fueled by the “new” policies which then support the industry. Lots of insiders will make tons of money. Washington is the world capital of hypocrisy and corruption.


21 posted on 03/13/2024 5:28:16 AM PDT by Rlsau1
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To: MtnClimber

I love fossil fuels. God put them there for us to enjoy.


22 posted on 03/13/2024 5:32:57 AM PDT by yldstrk
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To: T.B. Yoits

BS


23 posted on 03/13/2024 5:34:55 AM PDT by exnavy
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To: logi_cal869

How quickly the Left forgets. Remember the rolling brown outs in CA a number of years ago? How about the electric shortages in north-TX during the winter two years ago when the wind generators failed to keep up with demand? The so-called Green Energy (mostly wind and solar) is a myth until there is a viable means of storing that energy. The EV industry is headed for the dumper, too. Imagine what’s in store for CA when their “no distillate fuel vehicles” law takes affect. Given that protests have prevented new power plant construction in CA for decades, what do they think is going the power their cars and trucks?

The long run planning horizon for the Left and most politicians is their term of office.


24 posted on 03/13/2024 5:37:58 AM PDT by econjack
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To: MtnClimber

Coal is the only fossil fuel.


25 posted on 03/13/2024 5:38:05 AM PDT by joe fonebone (And the people said NO! The End)
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To: MtnClimber

The same demagoguery is being used against plastics. Instead of banning plastic grocery bags, the manufacturers should support a ban on all plastics in states which pick on a few examples. No paint, no condoms, no rubber gloves, no rubber at all, would wake people up.

Of course this would be impossible as the world is too interconnected; just as fossil fuels can’t be selectively but totally removed.

Methane as an aside, is not from fossils, as the solar system has oceans of methane throughout.


26 posted on 03/13/2024 5:40:07 AM PDT by JeanLM
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To: MtnClimber

“There is no reasoning with them.”

Hence my tagline.

L


27 posted on 03/13/2024 5:40:48 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: MtnClimber

Fossil Fuels liberated the world and allowed the world to be occupied in most places. It is true that they allowed the whole world to grow its population and feed most of it. Without them, the world would shrink to the 300 million people that the elitists want.


28 posted on 03/13/2024 5:43:51 AM PDT by silent majority rising (When it is dark enough, men see the stars. Ralph Waldo Emerson)
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To: MtnClimber

They hate Capitalism and America. The energy industry is the heart of those hatreds.


29 posted on 03/13/2024 5:45:15 AM PDT by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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To: MtnClimber

I see hatred of fossil fuels as a derivative hatred of free enterprise capitalism and personal liberty.

How dare you become wealthy and make all your own personal decisions!


30 posted on 03/13/2024 5:49:49 AM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: zeestephen
I see hatred of fossil fuels as a derivative hatred of free enterprise capitalism and personal liberty.

It's anti-capitalism and anti-Freedom

31 posted on 03/13/2024 5:51:30 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: MtnClimber

Mass psychosis!


32 posted on 03/13/2024 6:12:49 AM PDT by The_Media_never_lie ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Once we are off gas, they control the electricity for cars, stoves, air conditioners and can make us suffer to their whim. We will be stuck where we are and will have no refrigeration for food and no luxuries we and our ancestors have worked hard for.

Gas isn’t a ‘fossil fuel’ and we aren’t burning dinosaurs in out tanks. It is a naturally renewable energy - how many fuel fields have been found in the past several decades that are purported to be the largest ever found? I recall hearing of several that would serve us for at least a century.


33 posted on 03/13/2024 6:16:48 AM PDT by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: MtnClimber

Among other things, I thought the hatred of fossil fuels simply came down to the oil industry primarily supporting the Republican party. Which is why the Democrats are pushing so hard for ‘green’ energy to take over, since they’d be in charge of the whole enchilada.

Just like with the border, if most people pouring across were going to vote Republican, the Dems would be the first ones screaming for a militarized border wall.


34 posted on 03/13/2024 6:21:37 AM PDT by lado
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To: MtnClimber

Stop using the leftist phrase “fossil fuel.”


35 posted on 03/13/2024 6:34:10 AM PDT by Ge0ffrey
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To: MtnClimber

I remember the 1970s and the anti-war movement “HELL NO WE WON’T GO! WE WON’T GO FOR TEXACO!”
Movies, like King Kong(1976) portrayed the oil industry as the villain in everything.

Then came the Arab Oil Embargo and soon the rhetoric changed...”NUKE THEIR AS$ AND TAKE THEIR GAS!”

The Alaska Pipeline, stopped by the anti oil people, was declared now to be permanently shut down. One person said it would never be finished.
I said it would be rushed through if there is ever an oil shortage. After the Arab Oil Embargo, work suddenly started on it again and it was finished.

The recent shutdown of the Keystone Pipeline is a modern scam. Sacred Indian Burial Grounds was one of the excuses used for decades. Yet other reservations in Oklahoma and New Mexico have hundreds of pipelines crossing them.

When Keystone ceased work, Canadian Pacific bought out Kansas City Southern and suddenly very long trains of Petroleum tank cars now constantly pass my house going to refineries in Texas. Some of Biden;s cronies are getting rich off the Keystone shutdown.


36 posted on 03/13/2024 6:36:32 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: MtnClimber

Promotion of abortion, support of gays, forced recycling, vegetarianism, climate change propaganda and the push for electric cars and renewable energy are all related.

They are all attempts by the left to address the population bomb issue they latched onto in the 1970’s. Basically, the human population is growing exponentially, but resources are finite. And what can we do about it before we reach a crisis point? All of the above are various ways of attempting to solve the issue. Along with supporting illegal immigration, because once their policies started to bring down the birth rate they had to solve the economic issues a declining population caused by importing working age people to continue economic growth which would have went negative naturally with a declining population.


37 posted on 03/13/2024 6:39:43 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: Ge0ffrey

Fossil fuel is only ancient sunlight that fell on ancient trees, photosynthesis that caused plants to grow, then the leaves fell into a swamp for thousands of years where they were covered and compressed forming carbon beds.

So every time you turn on a light in your house you are getting the benefit of ancient sunlight. Nothing wrong with that.


38 posted on 03/13/2024 6:56:44 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Sirius Lee
Cheap energy has enabled the creation of a large middle class,

Obama's first science adviser wanted gas at $8 per gallon. That would have crushed the economy. Many people couldn't afford $4 to $5 gas back then..

39 posted on 03/13/2024 7:04:22 AM PDT by EVO X ( )
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To: MtnClimber

Oil is abiotic. No such thing as fossil fuel.


40 posted on 03/13/2024 7:15:58 AM PDT by waterhill (Rest in peace Sadie.)
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