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'Flame war' or Constitutional debate?
vanity ^ | 3/20/02 | tpaine

Posted on 03/20/2002 2:46:13 PM PST by tpaine

On the afternnoon of 3/18 Texaggie79 and I got into a type of discussion that is becoming all too common at FR.
In an effort to defend his position as a drug warrior, tex decided to attack the motives of his percieved enemies, 'the libertarians'. --- Here is that thread:

Cannabis Cafes Set To Open All Around Britain As Law Changes
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/648477/posts?q=1&&page=201

Posts #205/206 are one of our more typical exchanges. -- Shortly after our disagreement ended, -- on that thread.

Later that same evening, I had just responded to a concealed carry question at #15, - on this thread:

Sheriff says 'gun nut' concealing the truth
Address:http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/648911/posts

---- When my correspondent asked if I was still 'harrassing' texaggie. --- I denied any such intent, -- and Tex immediately posted the URL of the cannibus tread as his 'proof' of being harrassed.

Thus, Tex set off another 'flame war' between us on the same subject as the previous post.

Eventually, others on the thread protested his hijack of the thread. -- In response, I tried to show that texaggies constitutional position was not only against drugs, but could also be applied against guns.

-- Just as this point was about to be established, -- the anonomods decided that tex & I were having a 'flamewar' .
'They' - [JR?] -- suspended tex & I for 24 hrs, --- while we were in mid-discussion of a constitutional issue on gun control.

No one was violating any socalled forum 'rules' at that point, in my estimation.
I'd like to protest this rather silly form of censorship. -- Tex & I were hurting no one but each other with our exchange.

And for the umteenth time, I'd like to call for a better definition of the posting guidlelines, and for some sort of accountability from the capracious acts of the anonomods.

I won't hold my breath for a reasonable answer.
-- And please, -- spare me any more snide whine n' cheese remarks. ---- I, and many others, are well aware that the FR-PTB don't give a damn about dissenting opinions..


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To: Cyber Liberty
You take midol? -- Does it really work?

- I've only heard of it in jokes, never knew anyone that used it.

21 posted on 03/20/2002 4:04:38 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Texaggie79
Cry me a river. Should have happened before and longer.

BTW, I never asked for anyone to get suspended, that decision was made by someone else. Evidently they thought it was a good idea. Sometimes they simply hand out warnings. I know first hand.

FWIW, welcome back.

22 posted on 03/20/2002 4:05:17 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: tpaine
"Flame war' or Constitutional debate?"

As of right now it appears to be a flame war.

23 posted on 03/20/2002 4:08:12 PM PST by damnlimey
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To: tpaine
And you with there wondering why "discussions" with you always turn to flame-fests.

You are either stupid or just self-absorbed to the point that you have no idea how ridiculous you look.

Buh bye. I have some hot dogs to go steam.

24 posted on 03/20/2002 4:08:38 PM PST by Cyber Liberty
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To: tpaine
I hit the abuse button on TA for getting off topic. Unfortunately, someone decided that a warning (or two) was insufficient and decided to take more drastic measures.

When it gets to the point where someone gets beligerent about someone not admitting that some in their party might abuse drugs, it is getting ridiculous.

Some people rarely enter a discussion without calling others druggies, commies, pedophiles, etc, etc. and it is uncalled for.

25 posted on 03/20/2002 4:10:27 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: Texaggie79; tpaine
While I have the chance - welcome back ;o)
26 posted on 03/20/2002 4:11:53 PM PST by 4CJ
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To: tpaine
Posting Guidelines

Read the thread,seems pretty obvious it was a flame war.

27 posted on 03/20/2002 4:18:43 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: Cyber Liberty
You could probably stream those dogs by sitting on them.

Have a nice supper.

28 posted on 03/20/2002 4:37:00 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Eagle Eye
I understand your frustration, believe me. -- But get this: --- I was once suspended for a week for 'abusing abuse'.

When abuse first came in, it was 'abused'. By a lot of us. -- I was the first to be honored to know it was to be verboten, -- at a mods discretion.]

29 posted on 03/20/2002 4:47:15 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
I think you guys should just cool out and start a new chapter. Or page. Or TURN the page. Oh hell.

Barefoot girls . .

Dancin' in the moonlight.

30 posted on 03/20/2002 4:47:16 PM PST by alcuin
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To: mdittmar
Send in your application for anonomod. -- They need a few good [blanks].
31 posted on 03/20/2002 4:50:23 PM PST by tpaine
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To: alcuin
I think it's pretty strange, -- how many here seem to think that debate over the intent of the constitution, -- is divisive.

Certainy, it can get that way. -- That's why we have rules, posting guidelines, and moderators.

Unfortunately, there is no consistent enforcement OR moderation.

32 posted on 03/20/2002 4:59:43 PM PST by tpaine
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To: tpaine
That's almost funny.

I think that I've only hit it two or three times except for when we get those mass-posting-on-every-thread disruptors.

Oh yeah, I once self-abused (hehe) during the election re counts because I realized something I had posted was waaaaayyy open to the wrong interpretation.

33 posted on 03/20/2002 5:00:09 PM PST by Eagle Eye
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To: tpaine
Send in your application for anonomod. -- They need a few good [blanks].

anonomod??

Observe how to avoid a "flame" war.

34 posted on 03/20/2002 5:12:46 PM PST by mdittmar
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To: weikel
What's WOD?
35 posted on 03/20/2002 5:19:18 PM PST by Happygal
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To: tpaine
You and Tex completely ruined that thread. You dragged in an unrelated ongoing argument and ended up taking the thread completely off topic. What was particularly galling was that you continued your flame war even after Mr. March, the subject of the article, made an appearance on the thread and even went as far as asking you to stop. You pissed him off so bad that now he is banned for using vulgar language.
36 posted on 03/20/2002 5:35:31 PM PST by Sandy
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To: Sandy
I was about to respond [belatedly, I admit] to him, and offer encouragement, etc, when he blew up.

I am sorry that you think, -- that I was at fault beyond that. -- I don't see it that way at all. I'm responsible for what I actually do or say. - Not for anyones perceived opinions about my actions.

37 posted on 03/20/2002 6:03:49 PM PST by tpaine
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To: Sandy
My Mom told me as a 'real smart' person it might be a good idea for me to avoid excessive debate with a fool because she said a casual observer might not be able to tell the difference.

In this case there was collateral damage. That is a shame.

I understand their "timeout", they needed a chance to eat and sleep, I do not understand one of them being allowed to continually harass and disrupt in a private forum.

One thing I can assure you is that NO-ONE should take their posting privilages for granted here!

38 posted on 03/20/2002 6:34:18 PM PST by Gore_ War_ Vet
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To: Happygal
WOD is War on Drugs

you may also see WOsD, which is War on some Drugs.

39 posted on 03/20/2002 6:55:56 PM PST by Razwan
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To: tpaine
I'll ask John to start a new topic called "Whine and Cheese" just for you. Thanks, Jim
40 posted on 03/20/2002 7:33:42 PM PST by Jim Robinson
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