Skip to comments.Beware the VeggieTales! (David Cloud's diseased mind strikes again)
Posted on 07/16/2002 2:47:43 AM PDT by Darth Sidious
VEGGIETALES; MORALISM WRAPPED IN ULTRA SILLINESS
July 15, 2002 (David Cloud, Fundamental Baptist Information Service, P.O. Box 610368, Port Huron, MI 48061, 866-295-4143, firstname.lastname@example.org)
VeggieTales is a popular entertainment format for children (video and music) with a focus on character traits, such as thankfulness, forgiveness, and obedience. The Veggietales materials are advertised as "Sunday morning values, Saturday morning fun."
The first VeggieTale video, "Where's God When I'm S-Scared," appeared in 1993 and in the nine years since then, the company (Big Idea) has sold 28.5 million videos, not to mention the audio tapes, cds, books, toys, clothing, games, etc. Big Idea is working on a full feature animated movie about Jonah, which is scheduled to appear on 1,000 movie screens this fall and which will doubtless draw many Christians to the vile movie theaters.
The founder of VeggieTales is Phil Vischer.
When I learned recently that VeggieTales are popular with many Bible-believing Christians, I decided to review some of the videos and songs. I was amazed.
A BRIDGE TO THE WORLD
The most dangerous aspect of VeggieTales for Bible-believing Christians is the eclectic philosophy of the music. You will find almost anything, Caribbean, rock, rap, boogie, belly dance, soft shoe, jazz, you name it. The song "Do the Moo Shoo" uses very hard rock and rap. This is a dangerous bridge to the world. It creates a taste in children for rock music and renders them insensitive of the difference between sacred and sensual musical styles. Even the VeggieTales Bible songs are jazzed and rocked up, thus creating a taste for Christian rock music in the youngest child.
VeggieTales founder Phil Vischer says that laughter is a key to teaching, that if you get people laughing, you can teach them anything. Let me ask a question: If this is true, why don't we find anything like it in the Bible? The Bible is the sole authority for faith and practice. Why don't we find Jesus making people laugh before He taught them spiritual truths?
I disagree with Mr. Vischer. I believe the ultra silly approach to teaching spiritual truths CHEAPENS the things of God. It brings the blessed truth down to the level of worldly cartoons. The Bible says that "foolishness is bound in the heart of a child" (Prov. 22:15). The last thing we need to do is encourage the innate silliness of children, as if they are not already silly enough without the help of sincere but misguided adults.
I'm not saying there is no room for laughter in working with children. I'm not saying that at all. I am saying that to turn the things of God into cartoons and to present eternal truths in the context of ultra silliness is to cheapen the truth. I am saying that we see nothing like this in the Bible, and it is impossible to conceive of Christ and the Apostles engaging in such things.
Consider the VeggieTales version of Nebuchadnezzer forcing Meshach, Shadrach, and Abednego to worship the idol in the book of Daniel. The Veggie edition becomes the tale of Nebby K. Nezzer, manufacturer of chocolate bunnies, who tries to force Shack, Rack, and Benny to worship a giant bunny.
Vischer admitted to the press recently that VeggieTales is "kind of the equivalent of what if Monty Python took over your Sunday school class" ("Funny Vegetables with a Message," Associated Press, Jan. 23, 2002). Is that really what God's people want for their children?
Even Sunday School songs, such as "This Little Light of Mine," are sillified in VeggieTales.
INSUFFICIENT, DANGEROUS MESSAGE
Furthermore, VeggieTales presents an insufficient, dangerous message. There is moralism without the Gospel, and that is spiritual death. Jesus Christ told Nicodemus, a very religious man, that his religion and morality was not sufficient. Jesus said, "Ye must be born again" (Jn. 3:7). Moralism without the new birth is empty religion.
One of the themes of VeggieTales is "God made you special, and he loves you very much!" That is true enough as far as it goes, but if that message is not accompanied by the preaching of the Gospel -- that each person is a fallen, hell-bound sinner and that only through a personal relationship with Jesus Christ can we be saved -- it is worse than meaningless, because it gives the false idea that every person is right with God and heaven-bound as long as they are "good."
Not only is there no clear Gospel in VeggieTales, but there are unscriptural messages. The video "Dave and the Giant Pickle" is dedicated to the psycho-babble theme of "self-esteem." The song "Oh Santa" from "Silly Songs with Larry" is about the mythical Santa Claus.
Beware of VeggieTales.
...but hey, what can we expect from a nut who thinks The Lord Of The Rings is a tool of Satan?
Our church used Veggie Tales 'Jonah' for their Vacation Bible School......
...and the words & music truly reached those young people.
Why shouldn't we cast our net to these young folks ....with Biblical truisms enfolded in the catchy tunes of Veggie Tales.....
..BEFORE these youngsters get caught up in the
destructive rap & hardcore lyrics of our present day rock n roll.
So did we. Big mistake. It was a long advertisement for the movie. The kids liked the old Veggietales VBS curriculum better.
"No more fun of any kind!"
-Dean Vernon Wormer
You know a thousand years ago, he would've been a real hit with the "harmony is of the devil crowd."
BTW, "Ward Smythe" was killed in the religion wars...lets just say he was a friend of mine...
"A thankful heart
is a happy heart.
I'm glad for what I have.
It's an easy way to start."
However, now I can't take my daughter to a Christian Bookstore, because when it's time to go, I have to drag her, kicking and screaming, down from the mountain of VT garbage.
I've always wondered if kids really learn the lesson they're supposed to when they watch this sort of stuff.
Well, there is your problem right there. Imagine...Jesus laughing!
One of my favorite drawings of Jesus is the "Laughing Jesus" picture....
Oh sure...I suppose putting 3rd graders into neat little rows and reading Calvin's Institutes to them is far better for them than trying to convey truth through other formats.
I've run out of patience with fools in the Christian church.
Consider me a crank, but I'm wary of the success of "The Prayer of Jabez." Wilkerson has turned that little prayer in the OT into a successful cottage industry for himself (or his publisher has).
Children must be taught the Holy Scriptures using only the King James Bible. Music is allowed but it must be boring and accompanied with an organ, not even an electric piano.
Children should be forced to dress like dorks and Sunday School teachers should be fat and ugly.
Only then will we be able to reach children with the Gospel of Jesus.
David Cloud (note the arrogant smirk and proud, haughty eyes)
Hey... I knew a girl who likes to peel bananas, with her teeth... and suck the insides out of a grape... I had to take that one home!!!
And what's he got to say about eating peaches and cream... darn I looooove eating peaches...
Poor daffid... he must be a really lonely guy... I wonder if he has issues dealing with the subject of cucumbers and pickles that he is NOT telling us about. . .
Thanks for the ping.... hehheh
btw... I think david's got a growing fan club here... Their motto?
"To the truly holy... nothing is pure... not even veggies... "
Never having seen a Veggie video (no kids) this is something I might pay to see. Monty Python teaches Sunday School. LOL
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