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Nader's In!!
FOX NEWS

Posted on 02/20/2004 11:32:32 AM PST by inyurhed

Woo Hoo!!!..........Nader's people are telling FOX News that he will be entering the 2004 presidential race. Good news for the conservatives of this country, in my opinion. He'll surely take votes away from Kerry. Anything that splits up the Rat vote is a good thing.


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KEYWORDS: 2004election; election2004; mobytrolls; nader; ryunnaderrun
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1 posted on 02/20/2004 11:32:32 AM PST by inyurhed
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To: inyurhed
May be good news, but Judge Moore is contemplating running on the Constitution Party's ticket. Any effect Nader has will be more than offset by the conservatives voting for Moore.
2 posted on 02/20/2004 1:14:31 PM PST by Abram
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To: inyurhed
Where do I donate!
3 posted on 02/20/2004 2:55:37 PM PST by barkingdog
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To: Abram
Really to late for Moore to get on the ballot in many states, also money is an issue as well as name recognition. Moore may be seen as the defender of the Ten Commandments, but he is no Pat Robertson. Of course CNN will make him a major candidate. The question I have; is Moore still defending the Commandments or is it now all about him? Hurting GWB does not help his cause, unless he is one of those kool aid drinking conservatives that wants to promote a perceived anarchy so Far Right Christian Conservatives, can be elected. If anything four years of Kerry will push this country more secular! Not liberal, secular. That does not bode well for Christians! Besides how much money and on how many state ballots is the Constitution Party? Even Nader will have to attach himself to the Green Party to get on all 50 state ballots and get matching funds.
5 posted on 02/21/2004 7:31:21 AM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk : Bush could be the most successful one term president in history.. ..Morris)
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To: inyurhed
The real good news is that now all the DEANIACS have a candidate. Bet McAuliffe wishes he had that 41 million they gave to Dean! I fully intend to donate to Nader's campaign and encourage all republicans to do the same. Run Nader Run!!!!!!
6 posted on 02/21/2004 7:35:24 AM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk : Bush could be the most successful one term president in history.. ..Morris)
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To: inyurhed
I just sent an encouraging email to Nader's Presidential Exploratory Web Site, and I suggest everybody here do the same.

Let's not get our hopes up, though. In 2000, the Left's complaint with Gore was that he was Bush-lite, and that drove a lot of them to the Nader camp. But now the Loony Left is so rabid with Bush-hatred that I think most of them will be voting straight-ticket this time around. Kerry could get caught sacrificing babies to Satan, and they'd still vote for him.

7 posted on 02/21/2004 9:54:59 AM PST by Starve The Beast (I used to be disgusted, but now I try to be amused)
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To: Starve The Beast
Hello, I'm a new guy here... but I'm known as The Libertarian Guy over on Hannity's forums.

I'm almost willing to send Nader a tiny money order if he'll help steal votes from the Dems. Perhaps five bucks. It would be worth it, IF the libs fall for it this round... but some of them are still unhinged about how Nader "helped put Bush into office". But, that's libs for ya...



9 posted on 02/21/2004 9:41:54 PM PST by The Libertarian Dude (Liberty or security? Hell, I want BOTH.)
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To: Starve The Beast
"Kerry could get caught sacrificing babies to Satan, and they'd still vote for him."

Not to mention it might energize their base.
10 posted on 02/22/2004 5:59:20 AM PST by Reagan79 (Pro Life! Pro Family! Pro Reagan!)
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To: jstolarczyk
Not if he runs for the Const. Party. They have a real organization and will be on the ballet in most states, just like 2000. If Moore were to run as an independent, like Nader, you be right.
11 posted on 02/22/2004 8:00:49 AM PST by KFriedConserv
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To: jstolarczyk
Not if he runs for the Const. Party. They have a real organization and will be on the ballet in most states, just like 2000. If Moore were to run as an independent, like Nader, you be right.
12 posted on 02/22/2004 8:00:50 AM PST by KFriedConserv
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To: The Libertarian Dude
Its sort of sad that after 4 years in the Oval office we have to pumped up over a Nader run. Is Nader our only chance?
13 posted on 02/22/2004 8:03:01 AM PST by KFriedConserv
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To: KFriedConserv
It's sadder still that some of Bush's normally in-the-pocket voters are considering Roy Moore. If Bush can't keep his conservative base, what does that say about his job performance?

Nader may be a liberal, but I can see his point about the two-party duopoly. If the Dems and Repubs were doing their jobs properly, we wouldn't need more than two parties.


14 posted on 02/22/2004 8:32:33 AM PST by The Libertarian Dude (Liberty or security? Hell, I want BOTH.)
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To: KFriedConserv
"Most States" means he is a loser before he starts. Remember the electoral college! Besides Moore's major qualification to be President during a war is that he stood up for the ten commandments. Great resume'. Good thing we won't have to serve under him as Commander in Chief.
15 posted on 02/22/2004 5:19:13 PM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk : Bush could be the most successful one term president in history.. ..Morris)
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To: jstolarczyk
The Constitution Party is on the ballot in enough states to get a majority of the electoral vote. While not being on the ballot in every state is a disadvantage, it does not automatically eliminate its candidate from contention. Although it is unlikely that Roy Moore could win enough of those states to get elected, it is not impossible.
16 posted on 02/23/2004 6:50:35 AM PST by David75
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Moore and nader are protest candidates and nothing more. They don't have a shot to win. That being said, protest candidates are not bad, if they are pushing for something you really support. It is a way to have your voice heard and it usually has an effect.

Nader's run in 2000 has definitely had the effect of making the democrats more aware of their left flank and may have played a role in the selection of the liberal Nancy Pelosi as their House minority leader (over a moderate). I think Pat Buchanan in the past has certainly made the republican party think twice about its base support.

Strong support for Ray Moore may cause republicans to again adopt some new postions on things such as school prayer (remember Reagan made a string commitment to bring back school prayer), seperation of church and state, abortion, etc. A strong run by Moore may force the republicans party to move to the right ... at least on certain issues.
17 posted on 02/23/2004 7:24:56 AM PST by KFriedConserv (every vote counts)
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To: David75
It is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! If Moore has the hubris to run, there will be still only be two candidates that will collect ALL the electoral votes, BUSH and KERRY. If your goal is to sabotage Bush you won't. Even if Moore turns out to be a arrogant egotist. Only a fool would think his Christian view point and defense of the ten commandmants makes him qualified to fight a war and run this country. You will have less impact on Bush than the minuscule impact Nader will have on Kerry!
18 posted on 02/23/2004 3:16:48 PM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk : Bush could be the most successful one term president in history.. ..Morris)
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It is IMPOSSIBLE!!!!!!!!!!! If Moore has the hubris to run, there will be still only be two candidates that will collect ALL the electoral votes, BUSH and KERRY.

The odds of Roy Moore winning are slightly less than getting struck by lightning the day I win the lottery. I know that. That is close to, but not the same as, impossible.

If your goal is to sabotage Bush...

My goal is to do what is right. I leave the outcome to God.

Only a fool would think his Christian view point and defense of the ten commandmants makes him qualified to fight a war and run this country.

Bush was elected in 2000 on little more than his Christian view point and being governor of Texas. In that respect, Moore is at least as qualified as Bush was then. Plus, he has demonstrated a willingness to sacrifice his own position for the good of the country. Bush had not done so prior to 9/11. If Moore does run, we will learn how is other positions measure up.

You will have less impact on Bush than the minuscule impact Nader will have on Kerry!

Even so, that is not the point. If elections are only about picking the winner, I would rather go to Vegas on election day and wager my life savings on the outcome. I would stand a much better chance of getting something I want.

19 posted on 02/24/2004 6:52:59 AM PST by David75
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"My goal is to do what is right. I leave the outcome to God."
Muslims call thats "ENSHALLAH" (I am not sure on the spelling) it is used to mean whatever happens is Gods will. Which may be true, but God would not have given us a will or choices if we were not meant to use them. So enshallah has become an excuse for doing nothing.

George Bush had political experience that Roy Moore lacks. Moore's claim to fame is ignoring the rule of law, how is what Moore did different than what is happening in SF? God did not put the Ten Commandments in the court house, Moore did. Do I disapprove, no! Was it against the law, yes! I could care less what his opinions are, we all have those. HE COULD NOT AND WOULD NOT MAKE A GOOD COMMANDER IN CHIEF, HE HAS NO QUALIFICATIONS. Bush was elected to political office and had support of a national party. That is why he was elected. Was he prepared to be a Commander in Chief. More than likely not! But since 9-11 he has become a outstanding Commander in Chief. I do not want a untested, CinC whose only qualification is he broke the law for a good cause, to step into office in the middle of a war. What is "right" is subjective, bullets and bombs are not. Moore is an activist for a good cause, but Presidential he is not!
20 posted on 02/24/2004 7:58:41 AM PST by jstolarczyk (jstolarczyk : Bush could be the most successful one term president in history.. ..Morris)
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