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Do Birthers Know That Mike Huckabee Is Not a Birther?
New York Magazine ^ | February 15, 2011 | Dan Amira

Posted on 02/15/2011 7:41:08 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

According to a new poll, 51 percent of Republicans who intend to vote in their party's primaries do not believe that President Obama was born in the United States. Among these birthers, Mike Huckabee is the preferred candidate with 24 percent of the vote, followed by Sarah Palin at 19 percent, "someone else" at 15 percent, Newt Gingrich at 14 percent, and Mitt Romney at 11 percent. Unfortunately for the birthers, though, Huckabee, the winner of the birther primary, has made it clear that he doesn't subscribe to such conspiracy theories.

As he said on Geraldo at Large on July 26, 2009, "The reason that we knew this wasn't true is that I promise you that Hillary Clinton and her very careful research would have found this out." As he was drowned out by crosstalk and Geraldo's laughter, Huckabee continued, "I kept telling people, there's no way this would have escaped them, and they would have pulled the trigger on it long before the election."

Is it possible that birthers realize Huckabee isn't one of them and prefer him anyway? Sure. After all, there's nothing that says birthers have to make birtherism their No. 1 issue. But, at least on the question of Obama's natural-born citizenship, Palin seems to be the prospective candidate they should be rallying around, since she told a talk-radio host in December of 2009 that "the public rightfully is still making [Obama's birth certificate] an issue."

Poll: 51 percent of GOP-ers still want the birth certificate [Politico]

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TOPICS: Arkansas; Issues; Parties; Polls
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; birthers; certifigate; gomerhuckleberry; huckabee; huckster; naturalborncitizen; obama; palin; polls
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1 posted on 02/15/2011 7:41:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Click on the image to hear Mike Evans

Governor of Hawaii couldn't find Obama's Birth Certificate

2 posted on 02/15/2011 7:44:04 PM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I frankly don’t care one way or the other if the Huckster is a birther or not. He just plain sucks.


3 posted on 02/15/2011 7:44:33 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Obama is in trouble this week with the release of his horrible budget....they need to change the subject quick!

Let’s talk about those crazy Republicans who don’t believe Obama is a citizen, they’re CRAAAAZYYY!


4 posted on 02/15/2011 7:44:33 PM PST by t-dude (Sarah causes banal and vituperous evil snarks to shriek in horror!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The reason that we knew this wasn't true is that I promise you that Hillary Clinton and her very careful research would have found this out."

this is the same woman and her very careful research that didn't see the primaries being stolen by Obama via the caucuses.
5 posted on 02/15/2011 7:45:31 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
According to a new poll, 51 percent of Republicans who intend to vote in their party's primaries do not believe that President Obama was born in the United States.

The same poll revealed that 49 percent of Republicans are idiots.

"The reason that we knew this wasn't true is that I promise you that Hillary Clinton and her very careful research would have found this out." As he was drowned out by crosstalk and Geraldo's laughter

Disappointed Huck. Really, really disappointed.

6 posted on 02/15/2011 7:46:58 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I think Huckabee is out of touch with the American people.

Secondly, I think the definition of what a "birther" is needs to be looked at.

There are many who believe that Barack Obama was in fact born in Hawaii and yet are still feel that he is hiding something by refusing to make his birth certificate public.

I am one of those people. Does that make me a birther?

An American Expat in Southeast Asia

7 posted on 02/15/2011 7:48:15 PM PST by expatguy (Support "An American Expat in Southeast Asia" - DONATE)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I would like to see the birth certificate. The problem is that as of now, the POSOTUS claims that Obama Sr is his father and that alone disqualifies him to be the legitimate president of our country.
8 posted on 02/15/2011 7:48:20 PM PST by RedMDer (Stimulus... hasn't stimulated ANYTHING but The TEA PARTY!!! - Sarah Palin)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Quit listening to leftist to decide what we think or not think about. They are forming the argument points in our heads. We are able to know the priorities we want. F politico


9 posted on 02/15/2011 7:49:02 PM PST by Walkingfeather
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To: stylin19a

You are in error on so many levels ... where did barry the bastard and cankles get called to attend right before super tuesday? ... Dinae Feinswine’s home in Georgetown, to be told which one would win the election and which one would have no chance once the black vote stayed home. Cankles did as she was told, get out of the way. And in true elitist clinton style, she let her workers get flushed down the toilet of DNC power brokerage, so she would have a legacy of ‘fighting the good fight’, when all she was doing was following orders from those who run this nation and the world. Barry the bastard is the pathetic one. He was told that because he could deliver the black vote because he was perceived as ‘black enough’ he was chosen. Not one bit for any merit which he may believe he has. He was selected to win because he is black and can read a teleprompter. period. It would not surprise me if barry the bastard and his family have not even got a reservation in the underground city Washington will be herded into.


10 posted on 02/15/2011 7:52:09 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: stylin19a
this is the same woman and her very careful research that didn't see the primaries being stolen by Obama via the caucuses.

Yes, and the obvious abuses by ACORN.

11 posted on 02/15/2011 7:53:37 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Unfortunately for the birthers, though, Huckabee, the winner of the birther primary, has made it clear that he doesn't subscribe to such conspiracy theories.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Huckabee works for Fox. So?...Why would anyone be surprised?

If Fox and Huckabee can't be trusted to defend the Constitution ( **ALL** of it!) then they can't be trusted!

12 posted on 02/15/2011 7:53:51 PM PST by wintertime
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

-—I promise you that Hillary Clinton and her very careful research would have found this out...-—

I guess the Huckster wants favorable treatment from Ann Coulter, Glen Beck, and Bill O’Reilly - they all say that anyone who doesn’t blindly believe the BC exists is nuts, crazy, a crackpot.

But the fact is no conclusive evidence has ever emerged. In fact 0bama has spent millions hiding all relevent information about him. Reasonable people ask “why?” and demand answers.

Does Huckabee think he would get a pass from the media should he try the same thing?


13 posted on 02/15/2011 7:57:14 PM PST by MichaelCorleone (Sarah Palin is America's Margaret Thatcher)
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To: stylin19a

Hillary is also the one who, with a large staff, couldn’t figure out the Russian word for ‘reset’.


14 posted on 02/15/2011 8:00:13 PM PST by Fantasywriter
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To: MHGinTN
Sorry...had to hold for Best in Show ....Scottish Deer Hound.

just damn...are you a Bilderberger ? Iluminati ?
course, hillary DID call off the vote at the RAT convention, just as it was getting interesting.

15 posted on 02/15/2011 8:04:23 PM PST by stylin19a
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To: expatguy
I think Huckabee is out of touch with the American people.

I think he is somewhat detached from reality...

16 posted on 02/15/2011 8:04:23 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (I am proclaiming 2011 as the year of ME!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m sorry I just don’t believe Mike Huckabee is the preferred GOP candidate for 2012. I don’t know one single soul who wants him. Everybody I know either wants Palin, Bachmann or DeMint.


17 posted on 02/15/2011 8:10:51 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: expatguy
There are many who believe that Barack Obama was in fact born in Hawaii and yet are still feel that he is hiding something by refusing to make his birth certificate public.

Always go to motive, expatguy. Why would he refuse? To me, it should be a requirement.

Article 2, Section 1, U.S. Constitution.

No person, except a natural bornCitizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President (clip)

18 posted on 02/15/2011 8:11:31 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: MichaelCorleone

See #18. I”m sure you’ll agree.


19 posted on 02/15/2011 8:20:58 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"there's no way"

yeah, Huckabee bought "the Big Lie". A lie so extraordinary that most people can't fathom someone actually trying it. There is a reason there are conmen. It is because people want to believe.

20 posted on 02/15/2011 8:24:02 PM PST by FreeAtlanta (Obama and the left are making a mockery of our country.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do they know that Palin is not a birther either?


21 posted on 02/15/2011 8:28:54 PM PST by TXConservative25
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To: TXConservative25

Everybody should be required to show proof. I don’t care if they are lily white. Prevent this nonsense in the future.


22 posted on 02/15/2011 8:32:03 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: SunkenCiv

ping


23 posted on 02/15/2011 8:33:49 PM PST by Perdogg (What Would Aqua Buddha do?)
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To: F15Eagle

Dumbo Anderson Cooper doing another story on “birthers” now, with yet another hostile interrogation, I mean “interview”, this time with Gov. of Montana. Ugh - now he’s dishing with Jeffrey Toobin. Guess there are presently 11 states in various stages of legislation to require proof of citizenship on presidential candidates! They’re going nuts over this (AC abd JT now). LOL

He absolutely verbally crucified Col. Lakin and his attorney before on this subject. What an SOB, I’ve gotten to where I can’t stand AC, I just often check to see what and whom he’s going to have on.


24 posted on 02/15/2011 8:34:24 PM PST by llandres
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To: TXConservative25

Re-read the article.


25 posted on 02/15/2011 8:34:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (We need more Democrats in the Senate --Like Custer needed more arrows.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dems and MSM are using the Birther issue to divide Pubbies.

It’s a sorting tool, and why all of a sudden it’s a big deal.


26 posted on 02/15/2011 8:39:59 PM PST by DBrow
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To: llandres

Do you know that his mother is the heiress Gloria Vanderbilt?


27 posted on 02/15/2011 8:39:59 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (We need more Democrats in the Senate --Like Custer needed more arrows.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The real question is; Do Conservative know that The Huckster is pure FRAUD for hire?
What has he done? What has he accomplished? What does he stand for? Why is he trustworthy?
Check him out, check his history - the answers are quite apparent to the casual observer!


28 posted on 02/15/2011 8:43:46 PM PST by J Edgar
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To: stylin19a

Exactly


29 posted on 02/15/2011 8:48:30 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just like Hillary and her researchers were able to find out about Rev Wright and release the tapes before IA which would have finished Obama then and there and let her cruise to the nomination???

After seeing what happend in 2007/2008 I think we all way overrated the Clintons and their political mastery.


30 posted on 02/15/2011 8:51:18 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: Georgia Girl 2

May I say that you know some very smart people.We have a bunch of them here in Georgia.


31 posted on 02/15/2011 8:53:39 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: jeltz25

I think Bill was supporting her run with his mouth, but not his heart. He might not have wanted to be upstaged by his wife, too.


32 posted on 02/15/2011 8:53:58 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (We need more Democrats in the Senate --Like Custer needed more arrows.)
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To: jeltz25

“After seeing what happend in 2007/2008 I think we all way overrated the Clintons and their political mastery.”

Many if not most of the people in 0bama’s admin are Clintonistas, and money pours in to the various Clinton enterprises like the Library, and charities and “international funds” pretty much without oversight by anyone. And she gets to run around the world making deals* while 0bama sits in DC and tries not to smoke.

Oh yeah she lost.

*Who keeps track of what these deals are?


33 posted on 02/15/2011 9:00:58 PM PST by DBrow
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pubs wanted McCain to run against Hillary so bad they violated their oaths to uphold the Constitution by accepting McCaskill’s deal. Passing HR 511 would guarantee McCains acceptance, if Pubs let Obama be eligible. Hillary knew she had the nomination already, so Obama was not a threat. But she got fooled as did the Pubs. I think the PTB stepped in at the secret closed session on Mar. 12, 2008 and decided what was going to happen.

Howard Dean illegally forced her delegates to vote for Obama as their nominee. Hillary was out and McCain never stood a chance against the chosen one. Hillary, who along with McCaskill and Obama was on the Senate Judiciary, dared not admit she knew all along that Obama was not eligible. She may change her mind, ask forgiveness, and oppose Obama in 2012.


34 posted on 02/15/2011 9:11:55 PM PST by charlie72
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To: DBrow
It’s a sorting tool, and why all of a sudden it’s a big deal.

With all due respect, you are correct. It is a big deal. What it is sorting out is true Constitutionalists from Republicans.

I'm sick of this "big tent" compromising. Liberals never compromise (unless it's bad for the country of course).

To borrow from Reagan, "I didn't leave the Republican Party, it left me." Sometimes I don't care who wins the next election. I have less and less in common with the Republican Party as time goes on.

35 posted on 02/15/2011 9:12:24 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to send them a copy of the National Examiner, Feb. 14, 2011 which shows a pic of the Kenyan BC and Gov. Abercrombie admitting, “We can’t find Obama’s U.S. BC!”

Maybe we should send a copy to O’Reilly, Huckabee and Anderson Cooper as well as some senators and reps.

Sooner or later someone will insist on the truth, but don’t hold your breath.


36 posted on 02/15/2011 9:18:12 PM PST by charlie72
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To: stylin19a

Go back to sleep. Sorry to have bothered your delusions.


37 posted on 02/15/2011 9:24:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: MHGinTN

I like your homepage. I’ll have to look at it in more detail.


38 posted on 02/15/2011 9:28:12 PM PST by He Rides A White Horse (unite)
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To: stylin19a

“Hillary Clinton and her very careful research would have found this out.”

It still surprises me that people continue to think Hillary (or “her people”) is a genius. Did it ever occur to anyone that the MSM, the poltical establishment, and the public are that lazy and stupid? Did anyone ever notice how the Clintons careened through life, from scandal to scandal, and wonder whether they’re just lucky?


39 posted on 02/15/2011 9:28:29 PM PST by Tublecane
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Has Mike asked a senator recently? Every Senator, including Obama signed Senate Resolution 511 in which hearings Pat Leahy agreed with Judge Michael Chertoff:

“My assumption and my understanding is that if you are born of American parents, you are naturally a natural-born American citizen,” Chertoff replied. “That is mine, too,” said Leahy.”

You are watching the smokescreen being refreshed. “Birthers” is a useful description, since for President and Vice President only, our framers took their guidance from the Romans, the French, and The English, who all determined that to be a trustworthy citizen required the citizenship of that citizen's parents - often called "birthright citizenship." The British were more restrictive. Naturalized, that is non-naturally born subjects, could not participate in the Parliament - one must be a "birthright subject" or, from "natural law" a natural born subject. Of course, natural born subjects cannot be King or Queen, so the hierarchies are not one to one. “Subjects look up to a master, but citizens are so far equal, that none have hereditary rights superior to others.” (Dr. David Ramsay, Dissertation on Character and Privileges of a Citizen of the U.S., 1790)

Do you think Huckabee knew that Barack’s father was never a citizen? If he did, do you think he'd admit it? Do you think Huckabee believes that silly old Chief Justices like Marshall, Waite, and Evans Hughes are believable? They range from the 18th through the 20th centuries, and this is, after all, the twenty first! Might Huckabee have read justices James Wilson, James Kent, or Joseph Story? Might Huckabee have heard of the 14th Amendment, which defined naturalized citizens, the kind of citizen Barack/Barry is, and said he was (but only if born on our soil)?

Legislators might consider ignorance of the Constitution they have ignored an advantage. Unfortunately, every senator, in 2008, admitted that natural born citizens have two citizen parents. SR 511 was a ploy to end questions about McCain, whom the Democrats wanted as their opposition, because McCain's eligibility problems would silence any Republican who should have asked about Obama’s British Citizenship. John McCain knowingly provided cover for Obama’s illegitimacy. That will be his final legacy. We know Obama’s origins from all his Marxist/Communist mentors. It was McCain who betrayed his nation by his complicity. The Ruling Class depends upon the short memories of the proletariat.

40 posted on 02/15/2011 10:18:36 PM PST by Spaulding
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To: DBrow

Yes, she did lose. She didn’t win the nomination. She isn’t President. Now, she’s not living on the street or anything or totally finished like John Edwards, but she clearly lost. She was the overwhelming favorite for the nomination with huge leads of 20 to 30 pts or more throughout all of 2007. For all of 2005-2006 everyone thought she’d be the nominee, she was written in. She and her husband ran the Democratic Party for 15 years, knew everyone, had contacts everywhere.

I don’t know if anybody was ever more of a favorite for and seen as more of a lock to win their party’s nomination. And she lost to a guy no one had heard of before 2004, had never run a national campaign, had 2 years experience in the Senate, no executive experience, no military experience, no business experience, etc...

I don’t think a day goes by that she doesn’t think about not being President and how close she was, and maybe wonders what she could have done differently.

My point is that the Wright Tapes would have clearly ended Obama’s chances if they were released in say Nov or Dec of 2007 instead of March of 2008. They were readily available and his association with Wright was not a secret. Nor were Wright’s views. If the Clintons were really the political startegists some said they were those tapes would have come out much earlier than they did. True political geniuses would not have missed that opportunity.

I’m just saying they’re not some all powerful edifice.

So when Huckabee says “well, if he wasn’t born here the Clintons would have found the proof” he’s off base. They couldn’t even find out about Wright and he was right under their nose and in plain sight.


41 posted on 02/15/2011 10:45:22 PM PST by jeltz25
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Do you know that his mother is the heiress Gloria Vanderbilt?”

Yes, I’ve mentioned it in a past posting about CNN’s repeated publicizing of his “roughing up” in Cairo a couple of weeks ago, and his own dramatizations as well. He’s been raised as a fair-haired darling.


42 posted on 02/15/2011 10:45:31 PM PST by llandres
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To: llandres

AC luvs Obama - he freaks out when this issue comes up.

Which is rather bizarre, if there’s no problem.


43 posted on 02/16/2011 12:47:19 AM PST by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: He Rides A White Horse

“What it is sorting out is true Constitutionalists from Republicans. “

If it’s uys people doing that, it’s good. If it’s MSM (or SRM) it’s not so good, it’s a propaganda tool used to divide us into Constitutionalists and Republicans, for their benefit.


44 posted on 02/16/2011 6:26:38 AM PST by DBrow
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To: jeltz25

I agree with 99% of what you say, and it was very well said. They are indeed not an unstoppable force.

My point, which was lost because I’m not as good a writer as you, is that yes, Hillary lost the Presidency to an interloper, but she now has the type of behind-the-scenes power and room to maneuver she loves, and would not have had had she been the one in the Oval Office with all the detailed record keeping and public scrutiny.

I’m sure she regrets the outcome of 2008, but she feels that regret while she’s making a deal with the leaders of Myanmar and North Korea that we’ll only find out about in 30 years, if ever. And the deal will probably result in a charitable donation to some international fund Bill is running.


45 posted on 02/16/2011 6:38:06 AM PST by DBrow
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To: DBrow

agreed. my main point wasn’t even about her. It was about Huckabee using her and Bill to prove that Obama was born here.

Personally, I think he was born here. I don’t really care about the issue, although I do find it curious that he hasn’t been able to produce the long form birth certificate in going on 4 years now. If they showed that the whole thing would be over.


46 posted on 02/16/2011 11:21:28 AM PST by jeltz25
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To: Perdogg; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Perdogg.
According to a new poll, 51 percent of Republicans who intend to vote in their party's primaries do not believe that President Obama was born in the United States. Among these birthers, Mike Huckabee is the preferred candidate with 24 percent of the vote.

47 posted on 02/16/2011 6:21:19 PM PST by SunkenCiv (The 2nd Amendment follows right behind the 1st because some people are hard of hearing.)
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