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Woe to Dem party, plank if Hillary Clinton takes plunge in 2020
Bayou Buzz ^ | July 10, 2018 | Jeff Crouere

Posted on 07/16/2018 7:32:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

During the ascendancy of Donald Trump to the top of the Republican Party and the presidency, the media has devoted plenty of attention to the in-fighting in the GOP. Trump overthrew the establishment by defeating 16 Republican challengers and winning the nomination.

Ever since then, a dedicated band of GOP “Never Trumpers” has criticized the President’s every move and given plenty of support to the media and Democrat opponents of his agenda. Fortunately, President Trump has marginalized this group and solidified his support among Republicans. Recent polls have shown the President maintaining an astounding 90% approval rating among Republican voters.

The real political division now exists in the Democratic Party. The party is led by polarizing figures in both houses of Congress. House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) has been in Congress since 1987 and has served as leader of House Democrats since 2006. She is 78 years old and has been shaky in recent interviews, forgetting names and appearing confused.

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) has been in elected office since 1975 and has served in Congress since 1981. He has been in the Senate for almost 20 years, certainly qualifying as a card-carrying member of the political establishment.

The problem for Democrats is that the party is sprinting to the political left. The favored philosophy is no longer liberalism or progressivism, it is now socialism. The clearest evidence can be seen in the recent victory of 28-year-old Latina socialist Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She defeated Congressman Joe Crowley (D-NY) in the June Democratic primary. Crowley served in the powerful 4th ranking position among House Democrats and was a ten term Congressman. He espoused all of the party’s typical positions on taxes, healthcare, immigration, etc. yet he did not generate enough support among minorities and young voters, the base of the Democratic Party.

As the Democrats move left, a real question becomes what will happen in the 2020 presidential nomination race. Will socialist U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont run again; or will a younger far-left candidate take his place? Will potential candidates like U.S. Senator Kamala Harris (D-CA) or U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA) be viewed as sufficiently left wing by the base of the party?

Potentially, the field of candidates for the 2020 presidential nomination will be vast, but the number could shrink dramatically if Hillary Clinton enters the race again. Clinton, who lost the 2008 and 2016 presidential races, is a horrible candidate who inspires true hatred from millions of Americans. While she has her staunch supporters, she is not a candidate that is beloved by even her fiercest advocates.

Reports have circulated over the last week that Clinton is looking at running for President in 2020. She has the advantage of universal name recognition, a massive fundraising operation and a network of skilled political operatives. The problem is her unpleasant personality and her stale message would not inspire a robust turnout of Democratic Party voters.

If Clinton could not beat an upstart Democratic Senator for her party’s nomination in 2008 or a novice politician in 2016, there is little chance she could beat an incumbent President in 2020. In fact, Clinton needed a rigged primary system and unfair assistance from the Democratic National Committee to defeat Sanders for the Democratic Party’s presidential nomination in 2016.

In both of her previous losses, Clinton had the political establishment on her side. She had financial advantages as well. For example, in her race against Trump, Clinton amassed a war chest twice as large as Trump. She had 95% of the media supporting her and decades of political experience on her team that Trump did not possess, yet she still lost in an Electoral College landslide.

Ever since then, Clinton has refused to leave the political arena. She has constantly whined about the loss and blamed everyone else except herself. She has the power to probably wrest the 2020 presidential nomination from any of other candidates, but, if victorious, she would deal a tremendous blow to the Democratic Party and become a three-time loser as a presidential candidate. It will be interesting to see if there are voices of sanity in her inner circle who can successful persuade her against letting her ego overwhelm the cold hard facts of political reality.


TOPICS: Campaign News; Issues; Parties; State and Local
KEYWORDS: 2018election; 2020; 2020election; election2018; election2020; hillary; parkinsons; sanders; trump
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1 posted on 07/16/2018 7:32:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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2 posted on 07/16/2018 7:34:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=600><p>https://i.imgur.com/zXSEP5Z.gif)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Plank?

If Hillary can plank for 2 minutes I’ll vote for her.


3 posted on 07/16/2018 7:35:40 PM PDT by Yaelle
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“Clinton is looking at running”

Maybe work on walking first, and stairs. Laughable to think she can win. She will walk in with all the baggage she had before, plus everyone has seen her act like a sore loser.


4 posted on 07/16/2018 7:38:02 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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“Clinton is looking at running”

Maybe work on walking first, and stairs. Laughable to think she can win. She will walk in with all the baggage she had before, plus everyone has seen her act like a sore loser.


5 posted on 07/16/2018 7:38:05 PM PDT by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up. ....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Democrats have the bureaucratic management of the Soviet or Chinese Communist Party.

The old guard, having had to lie, cheat, steal and even kill to worm their way to the top, will never, ever give up power, even when they are dead.

That’s why the likes of Hillary Clinton, Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer will be around forever.


6 posted on 07/16/2018 7:39:00 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
She has the power to probably wrest the 2020 presidential nomination from any of other candidates, but, if victorious, she would deal a tremendous blow to the Democratic Party and become a three-time loser as a presidential candidate.

Sounds like a win-win to me. Go Hillary!

7 posted on 07/16/2018 7:39:51 PM PDT by TChad
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

My guilty pleasures.


8 posted on 07/16/2018 7:43:47 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

My favorite Hillary moment from 2016.

We’ll keep talking!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70yF-Y2sNRc


9 posted on 07/16/2018 7:44:06 PM PDT by conservative98
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

But her own party hates her?!!?


10 posted on 07/16/2018 7:44:52 PM PDT by leaning conservative (snow coming, school cancelled, yayyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
During the ascendancy of Donald Trump to the top of the Republican Party and the presidency, the media has devoted plenty of attention to the in-fighting in the GOP. Trump overthrew the establishment by defeating 16 Republican challengers...

They forget that way back then, the enemedia considered Trump the easy candidate for Canky to beat, and they gave Trump the bulk of their airtime and contributed in their own fiendish way to his victory over the other R's. Little did they realize, that it was tippy-toes that Cank's would have easily run over. Trump trumped Canky by a mile.

11 posted on 07/16/2018 7:48:29 PM PDT by C210N (Republicans sign check fronts; 'Rats sign check backs.)
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She has the power to probably wrest the 2020 presidential nomination from any of other candidates, but, if victorious, she would deal a tremendous blow to the Democratic Party and become a three-time loser as a presidential candidate. <<

Ive been sending her praises but NO MONEY....everyone here at FR should do the same....They see it as sure votes...

12 posted on 07/16/2018 7:49:36 PM PDT by M-cubed
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What the hell happened there?


13 posted on 07/16/2018 7:50:56 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Just another stroked out moment. Imagine this scene playing out on the stage in Helsinki today if she were President.


14 posted on 07/16/2018 7:54:42 PM PDT by TADSLOS
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The only way I will not support Trump is if he sleeps with Hillary:


15 posted on 07/16/2018 8:06:22 PM PDT by Slyfox (Not my circus, not my monkeys)
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Honestly, from a pure tactical standpoint Hillary running again isn’t the worst move for the D’s. Not the greatest, but not the worst.

Short of the economy collapsing, no D can win in 2020. Anyone serious about the presidency will not want to be the nominee... serious players will either sit out, or simply use running to set the groundwork for a national campaign in 2024, but will bow out long before they would be the actual nominee because they don’t want to have the millstone of a bad loss to Trump in 2020 to overcome later.

So the D’s nominee in 2020 will simply be a throw away, it will be a back bencher or a past their prime has been... their role is not to win the White House, because they know they wont, but to keep the D voters engaged to help the down ticket races from becoming a slaughter as well... by motivating the base to turn out.

Hillary wouldn’t be my choice for that role, but she could play it...

With all that’s said, I highly doubt she is running no matter what’s the rumor mills claim


16 posted on 07/16/2018 8:17:00 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: conservative98

Mini reboot. Under performing processor with low memory


17 posted on 07/16/2018 8:17:32 PM PDT by Bommer (Jesus is God! Deal with it.)
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To: Slyfox

LOL.That pretty much nails it.


18 posted on 07/16/2018 9:33:14 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...
#MondayMoanin’ – And the Hillary Camp is Still At It | MOTUS A.D. | 4-23-18 | MOTUS | Posted on 04/23/2018 7:44:38 AM PDT by NOBO2012

#MondayMoanin’ – And the Hillary Camp is Still At It | MOTUS A.D. | 4-23-18 | MOTUS | Posted on 04/23/2018 7:44:38 AM PDT by NOBO2012

19 posted on 07/16/2018 10:53:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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I hope Bernie, Hillary, Fauxcohontas, and Mad Maxine all run.

God I hope they all run.


20 posted on 07/16/2018 11:38:47 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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